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Old 11-08-2005, 07:46 PM
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I like the jacket that she wore to the last evening event though, it was very chic.
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Old 11-08-2005, 08:01 PM
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Camilla does have a generously feminine figure. The velvet dress she wore at the MOMA event in New York was nice. It was feminine and showed her curves and female figure. It wasnt square like some other outfits.
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Old 11-08-2005, 08:07 PM
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I agree, but some of the tailoring, and this is in general, looks like it was not completed in a proper manner.

She has curves which look great on her, but some of the items need to be fitted better across the top, I think.
Oh well she's old enough to know that she can't fit in everything nicely....
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Old 11-08-2005, 08:37 PM
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Prince Charles and Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall arrives at the Empress Hotel in downtown San Francisco, Tuesday, Nov. 8, 2005. The Empress Hotel houses people who are homeless, with alcohol and drug abuse, mental health issues and those who are disabled. Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall are on a 8-day tour of the United States.

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Old 11-08-2005, 08:41 PM
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At San Francisco International Airport in San Francisco, November 8, 2005. Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall wrapped up an 8-day tour of the United States, the first foreign tour they have undertaken together since their marriage in May.

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#3: Agents with the US State Department Diplomatic Security Detail stand guard as the plane of Prince Charles and his wife, Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall prepares to leave San Francisco International Airport 08 November 2005 in San Francisco. Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall wrapped up an 8-day tour of the United States, the first foreign tour they have undertaken together since their marriage in May. AFP PHOTO/POOL/Justin Sullivan (Photo credit should read JUSTIN SULLIVAN/AFP/Getty Images)
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Old 11-08-2005, 09:22 PM
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I believe that with camilla there are two realities, I believe that she is accepted as consort royal but loved I do not believe that she is. is my very personal opinion. is a great difference between being accepted and to be wanted.
Many, many royal persons was respect but no loved.
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Old 11-08-2005, 09:59 PM
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As a Diana fan (always have and always will be), I was not particulary thrilled about the Charles and Camilla union and although, we live in a society that often accepts cheating on one's partner as "normal" or "accepted" I guess you would say, I have never warmed to this idea. I don't respect people who cheat, BUT I have been watching over the past few days and I have to give credit where credit is due. On this tour of America Camilla did a very good job. After all she's been through she carries herself very well and THAT is respectable. Not many people can do that after what happened with her and charles and Diana. Nonetheless here it is: Well Done Camilla!
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Old 11-08-2005, 10:16 PM
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[quote=HRHAmy]As a Diana fan (always have and always will be), I was not particulary thrilled about the Charles and Camilla union and although, we live in a society that often accepts cheating on one's partner as "normal" or "accepted" I guess you would say, I have never warmed to this idea. I don't respect people who cheat/quote]

I totally agree with you.
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Old 11-09-2005, 01:19 AM
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Although I love what Camilla wears during her day visits, I can't get over her evening wear. She just seems to miss it for some reason to me, I just want to rush her to a Valentino or Vera Wang store. There's still time, maybe she will hit it one of these days.
Camilla could never wear a Vera Wang dress. You have to have a model's body to wear a Wang dress. Valentino, maybe.
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Old 11-09-2005, 09:15 AM
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There's a brilliant video link on this page from the BBC. Camilla stands and chats to the camera for about a minute speaking about her time in the USA. She deals with them very well and I think it's wonderful that she didn't avoid them or shy away from the questions - she just answered each one perfectly.

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Old 11-09-2005, 11:20 AM
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I believe that with camilla there are two realities, I believe that she is accepted as consort royal but loved I do not believe that she is. is my very personal opinion. is a great difference between being accepted and to be wanted.
Many, many royal persons was respect but no loved.
That is a very wise comment corazon and it is the main reason that although I disapprove of adultery I have to admire Camilla.

Women have been raised to seek approval and love to the point that if a woman is not considering loving or seeking approval, she is treated by society as less of a woman. Women are taught from a young age to judge themselves by how much others love them.

Women are raised to be the good girl and I believe this is what holds many women back in their jobs and trapped in destructive relationships. I've seen the need for approval in women around me and I've seen how they get slammed by office politics in corporations run by men and they get trapped in relationships with men who don't deserve them. I'm fighting the need of approval myself.

When men seek love and approval to the point that women do, men get slammed for not having enough self-respect; yet, for women, not having self-respect is not considered a big deal. Its OK for a woman not to have self-respect; its not OK for a man. On the other hand its OK for a man to look out for himself even if it hurts someone else but its not OK for a woman. That is unfair and sexist IMHO. No wonder more men treat themselves better than women do.

For a woman to basically do as Camilla did and say, the public be damned, I'm going after my own needs, is so rare and discouraged for women that I cannot help but admire it even though I don't necessarily approve of the affair. She is now seeking more public approval but this time it is for the right reason. She wants the relationship to continue, she needed to marry Charles to give their relationship legitimacy, and now that they're married, her public approval is tied to his and to the public acceptance of the royal family. They need some measure of public acceptance to continue. But Camilla is not silly enough to tie her own self-worth and self-esteem to whether the public loves her. IMHO it is not a defeat if the public accepts her but doesn't love her; it is a victory.

There is a book out that I want to read I Need Your Love - Is That True? : How to Stop Seeking Love, Approval, and Appreciation and Start Finding Them Instead

I've heard good things about it; basically it says rather than seeking love and approval from others, you need to find them in yourself. Approval addiction is a major problem that affects women from all walks of life and surprisingly Camilla is a great role model for women trying to get over the need to be loved and approved all the time.
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THose pictures were great and show that the duchess, in her own words, ate her way across California! Here's a nice piece about the couple's visit to the Empress in today's San Francisco Chronicle:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...G8IFKULI16.DTL
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it is the main reason that although I disapprove of adultery I have to admire Camilla.
Women have been raised to seek approval and love to the point that if a woman is not considering loving or seeking approval, she is treated by society as less of a woman. Women are taught from a young age to judge themselves by how much others love them.
She is now seeking more public approval but this time it is for the right reason. IMHO it is not a defeat if the public accepts her but doesn't love her; it is a victory.

Camilla has never before sought approval from anyone, her parents taught her to believe in herself, to be a strong and independent person. She was valued as a child for who she was, her individuality.
She will never seek celebrity status but, I believe in the end, she will be thought of as a remarkable woman and will be much loved and admired.

Our views on life and relationships change greatly as we go through life. I cannot imagine 'judgeing' myself by how much others love me.

As far as adultery is concerned, it would be great if, when a couple realised they were not in love, both of them sat down and agreed it wasn't working and immediately divorced, if their religion allowed. Reality is that it is normally one partner who wants their freedom, what happens then, should they both live in misery? :)
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It appears that Camilla is enjoying a Gin and Tonic - I wonder if that's her favourite tipple?
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i'm charmed that Camilla kept the simple roses given to her by the men at the shelter and carried them on the trip home. This simple thing has changed my whole attitude toward her, i'll always love Diana, but this shows a woman who appeciates kindness or she would have left them on the floor of the limo.
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