Charles & Camilla's Official Visit to the U.S.A. (1-8 November 2005)

[tiaraprin]

Originally Posted by seto

The press I believe is the only one doing any comparing of camilla and Diana. I hope they enjoy their visit. I think people will want to meet camilla she is a royal and those that are into the royal family will enjoy the visit.

Not all Royal watchers will be running to see them. They will be only 35 miles from where I live and I most certainly am not going.

[Lady Marmalade]

Originally Posted by tiaraprin

Not all Royal watchers will be running to see them. They will be only 35 miles from where I live and I most certainly am not going.

Indeed, that seems to be a general view taken. I am posting a link to yesterday's Guardian...just copy and paste in your address box, it should work.

chttp://www.guardian.co.uk/monarchy/s...601322,00.html

The general feeling towards bringing the other woman, or other man, whom you married to dinner, is still not as socially acceptable in our society...no matter how much good she has done or happy they are. We are still quite prudish in this country in that respect.

[ysbel]

Originally Posted by Lady Marmalade

The general feeling towards bringing the other woman, or other man, whom you married to dinner, is still not as socially acceptable in our society...no matter how much good she has done or happy they are. We are still quite prudish in this country in that respect.

I would have to respectfully disagree, Lady Marmalade. While at family gatherings, Americans would be show some distaste and distance; for purely political or social gatherings, the other woman who married the man is not necessarily shunned in this country.

When Donald Trump ran off with Marla Maples, it was scandalous at first but they were received well pretty much anywhere they went afterwards. The only cases I know of where a married partner was shunned by society was during the breakup of Loni Anderson and Burt Reynolds and then the breakup between Mia Farrow and Woody Allen. But these men allegedly did a lost worse than the charges levied against Charles and Camilla. Burt was rumoured to have been physically violent with Loni and Woody ran off with his 17 year old foster daughter.

These are entirely more serious circumstances.

[Mippy O]

I am waiting impatiently for the magazines to come out today; there should be a lot of great pictures to see. I really enjoy Charles and Camilla, and hope that their visit is a huge success. I was lucky enough to see the 60 Minutes interview with Charles and was very impressed. He was a lot more charming than I would have given him credit for, and it was fun to watch him.

[Elspeth]

I think it remains to be seen how they're received here; speculation won't really matter in the face of facts. These days the USA is in one of its more religion-minded phases, although the religion-based morality that gets so hot under the collar about homosexuality and abortion tends to be somewhat more relaxed about divorce, so we'll just have to see what the reaction is like.

[Ennyllorac]

Originally Posted by Elspeth

I think it remains to be seen how they're received here; speculation won't really matter in the face of facts. These days the USA is in one of its more religion-minded phases, although the religion-based morality that gets so hot under the collar about homosexuality and abortion tends to be somewhat more relaxed about divorce, so we'll just have to see what the reaction is like.

I agree with you Elspeth. I don't think there will be any demonstrations against the royal visit. There won't be the same hysteria as when Diana visited. I think it will be just a normal state visit that will get it's 30 second new blurb and that's it.

[ysbel]

Originally Posted by Elspeth

although the religion-based morality that gets so hot under the collar about homosexuality and abortion tends to be somewhat more relaxed about divorce, so we'll just have to see what the reaction is like.

I agree, Elspeth. The reaction has been interesting so far. The attitude seems to be that people want to get a look at his new wife and see for themselves. There's quite a bit of curiosity; I think the real reaction will come as a result of how Charles and Camilla conduct themselves on the tour but that we won't know until they get here.

[seto]

Originally Posted by ysbel

I agree, Elspeth. The reaction has been interesting so far. The attitude seems to be that people want to get a look at his new wife and see for themselves. There's quite a bit of curiosity; I think the real reaction will come as a result of how Charles and Camilla conduct themselves on the tour but that we won't know until they get here.

I agree it is nobodys business but the partys involved it is a private matter.

[Lady Marmalade]

From what I have read in past postings on hear today...then why even have these forums? Obviously people do care.

And while yes divorce rates are high, IN GREAT BRITAIN TOO, BEATRIXFAN, we are not as forgiving in this country....we do however let things evaporate and become part of the past...but the stench is still there to smell as the damage has been done.

It does not make sense for any of us to post then if people do not care...as that is what I am reading...

With that said....we shall see how everything plays out next week...

If what happened ever happened to my parents and myself in exactly the same way....my father would be cut off and never spoken to again..I don't care how happy he would have been, there would be nothing left for him in my life.

[Alicky]

Originally Posted by Lady Marmalade

we are not as forgiving in this country....

That's a big generalization, but even if it wasn't, well then that's our problem not his.

Originally Posted by Lady Marmalade

With that said....we shall see how everything plays out next week....

I don't understand why you are predicting doom. What is the worst that could happen anyway? War of the Waleses-related I mean, which I assume is what you mean.

[Lady Marmalade]

Originally Posted by Alicky

That's a big generalization, but even if it wasn't, well then that's our problem not his.


I don't understand why you are predicting doom. What is the worst that could happen anyway? War of the Waleses-related I mean, which I assume is what you mean.

I am not predicting doom..please...

I am just curious like a lot of people to see how everything goes, that's all.

[Alicky]

Originally Posted by Lady Marmalade

I am not predicting doom..please...

Just hoping? :(

[Lady Marmalade]

Originally Posted by Alicky

Just hoping? :(

Nope, not at all. We have enough problems in the world. HRH is coming here, from what I gather, to focus on a few areas he is noted for, conservation, organic farming and so on. It is supposed to be very educational in terms of their trip and I hope things go very well.

Besides, we left the glamour back in the 80's...the era of Dynasty and Dallas and over the top glitz are over with. Which is good because if they met J.R. Ewing, I am sure he would hit on the Duchess.

This is just a visit to test the waters and meant to be one of friendship and mutual interest.

[Princejohnny25]

The Bushes and Walses dont get along to well. They dont have the same views. I think Camilla is a wonderfull lady. Everybody wants happiness, even you all. But for them it is much harder to get.

[polop]

Maybe I missed something, but can you tell me why the Bushes aren't very fond of Camilla?

[Princejohnny25]

Its not Camilla specifically but the Wales couple as a whole. Heck, most of the windsors. Charles and George are on completely different sides of the scale when it comes to there views. They dont get along. The bushes have no reason to hate camilla though. They have never met her or know her.

[Harry's polo shirt]

Originally Posted by Princejonnhy25

Its not Camilla specifically but the Wales couple as a whole. Heck, most of the windsors. Charles and George are on completely different sides of the scale when it comes to there views. They dont get along. The bushes have no reason to hate camilla though. They have never met her or know her.

I don't think the Bush's hate Camilla, they just don't agree with their views.

I think Lady Marmalades worries are about how the american public will respond to their visit. Things are not very steady in here in the US, hopefully there aren't many protests...I remember when the announcement about Charles and Camilla's engagement, the Brits seemed excited about it and talked about their "love story"---in the US we all looked at each other like WHAT!!

[tiaraprin]

Originally Posted by Lady Marmalade

From what I have read in past postings on hear today...then why even have these forums? Obviously people do care.

And while yes divorce rates are high, IN GREAT BRITAIN TOO, BEATRIXFAN, we are not as forgiving in this country....we do however let things evaporate and become part of the past...but the stench is still there to smell as the damage has been done.

It does not make sense for any of us to post then if people do not care...as that is what I am reading...

With that said....we shall see how everything plays out next week...

If what happened ever happened to my parents and myself in exactly the same way....my father would be cut off and never spoken to again..I don't care how happy he would have been, there would be nothing left for him in my life.

Exactly Lady Marmalade. However, we are in the minority. We are too "old fashioned" on this issue.

[sara1981]

i cant wait see Prince Charles he really my admire since i met him at Prince's trust and i cant wait see Camilla's new outfits also.

Sara Boyce

[Elspeth]

Probably not even hoping. This seems to be an unprofitable direction for this thread to be going.