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Old 05-19-2015, 10:03 AM
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Prince Charles is just about to meet Gerry Adams at St Mary's University in Galway city.

Prince Charles to meet Sinn Féin leader Gerry Adams - BBC News
It must be difficult for Charles as he is said to have been close to Lord Mountbatten, who in turn was murdered by the IRA.
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:13 AM
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Historic handshake for peace: Prince Charles comes face to face with Gerry Adams for the first time during visit to Ireland after Sinn Fein leader requested they meet | Daily Mail Online




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I think it is a brilliant step in correct direction in this troubling world of today. No one can change what happened in the past. We just shouldn't repeat the awful things that happened. We can't forget them, but we should try to see all sides and then forget and go forward. Very hard, but most try for a calmer world if possible.
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Gerry Adams has refused to confirm if he will apologise to Prince Charles over the death of Lord Mountbatten when he meets the royal later today.

The Sinn Fein President said that "one couldn't help but be regretful about the loss particularly when there are children involved."

Lord Louis Mountbatten was the great-uncle of Prince Charles and was killed by an IRA bomb in Classiebawn Castle in Mullaghmore, Country Sligo, his 14-year-old grandson Nicholas Knatchbull and Paul Maxwell, a 15-year-old crew member were also killed.
More: Adams 'regret at loss of life' but no apology for Prince Charles - ITV News
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:30 AM
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We ask a very great deal of the Royal Family when we expect them to mask their feelings, and be civil to such despicable persons..in the cause of 'the greater good'.
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The Prince of Wales has begun a poignant trip to Ireland with a historic handshake with Gerry Adams, one of the most prominent and controversial republican figures of the last 50 years. The two men smiled at each other as they shook hands for several seconds and exchanged words in a packed hall as the prince toured the National University of Ireland Galway in the first engagement of his packed agenda-

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The Prince of Wales has toured Ireland's Marine Institute in west Galway with the Irish premier, Taoiseach Enda Kenny. Ireland's national agency responsible for marine research, technology, development and innovation is on a scenic stretch of coastline at Rinville, near Oranmore. During his visit Charles was briefed on the work of the institute. He was also shown some of the equipment it uses for marine conservation-
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Camilla Duchess of Cornwall today visited Claddagh National School and Druid Theatre in Galway as part of her and Prince Charles’s visit to Ireland-
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The Duchess of Cornwall attended a food and drink celebration at the House Hotel in Galway this afternoon including taking a drink of a cocktail especially made in her honour-
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Old 05-19-2015, 02:36 PM
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Maybe someone could comment about the veracity of the Belfast Telegraph sources, but I found this interesting:
Queen insisted on Prince Charles meeting Sinn Fein chief Gerry Adams during Ireland visit - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk
According to both BBC and Sky News, Gerry Adams requested the meeting and Charles agreed. Nothing has been mentioned about the issues raised in the Belfast Telegraph.
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We ask a very great deal of the Royal Family when we expect them to mask their feelings, and be civil to such despicable persons..in the cause of 'the greater good'.
When there is a time of troubles that lead to violence and loss of life no matter where in the world, it is never one sided and I have to commend both Gerry Adams and Prince Charles for coming together in the name of peace. I don't believe that Charles' feelings seemed at all "masked" and in no way do I consider Gerry Adams to be despicable. Past acts that occurred were certainly despicable and inhumane and both sides felt them but coming together for "the greater good" not only encourages peace but also healing.

Very monumental occasion I think.
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Thank you for sharing the link Cepe. Camilla looks very nice in that shade of aqua/green with an appropriate brooch. The young soloist at the Claddagh school did very well during her performance.

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When there is a time of troubles that lead to violence and loss of life no matter where in the world, it is never one sided and I have to commend both Gerry Adams and Prince Charles for coming together in the name of peace. I don't believe that Charles' feelings seemed at all "masked" and in no way do I consider Gerry Adams to be despicable. Past acts that occurred were certainly despicable and inhumane and both sides felt them but coming together for "the greater good" not only encourages peace but also healing.

Very monumental occasion I think.
I agree. As the UK's future HoS Charles knows that these types of meetings are part of his role and do play a part in healing from the troubles of the past.
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Old 05-19-2015, 03:21 PM
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Prince Charles has visited the spectacular limestone landscape of the Burren in County Clare where he met members of the local farming community-

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Old 05-19-2015, 04:31 PM
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When there is a time of troubles that lead to violence and loss of life no matter where in the world, it is never one sided and I have to commend both Gerry Adams and Prince Charles for coming together in the name of peace. I don't believe that Charles' feelings seemed at all "masked" and in no way do I consider Gerry Adams to be despicable. Past acts that occurred were certainly despicable and inhumane and both sides felt them but coming together for "the greater good" not only encourages peace but also healing.

Very monumental occasion I think.

There is an important difference though. Prince Charles or the Queen for that matter bear no responsibility for the actions of the British Army or the British government in Northern Ireland. In a constitutional monarchy, responsibility for government decisions rests solely with the ministers who are elected politicians. Gerry Adams, on the other hand, despite consistently denying it, was known to be part of the IRA leadership and is therefore most likely personally responsible for several casualties related to IRA operations.

I don't intend to go into the discussion about whether the IRA actions were justified or not (personally, I think they were not), but, in any case, Prince Charles has never been an active part to that struggle, whereas Gerry Adams played a leading role.
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BBC needs to clear the pic up that I see. If it's the "waterstamp" or whatever id marking on the pic,whatever it's called, it's twisting the pic and setting the color off on twitter bbc.
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I don't intend to go into the discussion about whether the IRA actions were justified or not (personally, I think they were not), but, in any case, Prince Charles has never been an active part to that struggle, whereas Gerry Adams played a leading role.
The important thing now is that instead of seeking to make war, they're seeking peace and the time to play a blame game has reached its sell by date.
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There is an important difference though. Prince Charles or the Queen for that matter bear no responsibility for the actions of the British Army or the British government in Northern Ireland. In a constitutional monarchy, responsibility for government decisions rests solely with the ministers who are elected politicians. Gerry Adams, on the other hand, despite consistently denying it, was known to be part of the IRA leadership and is therefore most likely personally responsible for several casualties related to IRA operations. ... [snipped]
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This particular excuse works well in Japan only. Given the long bloody history between the countries, I am not sure that this excuse can apply to the British royals. As for commiting atrocities, no one can match the British and Anglo-Saxons.

On a different note, it is nice that the British royals pay various visits to Ireland and the Northern Ireland.
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REALLY Al_bina ? Normally you are so ABSOLUTIST in your opinions.
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I can't help but chuckle at the pics of the Irish president Mr. Michael Higgins. He looks like an elderly leprechaun.
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There is an important difference though. Prince Charles or the Queen for that matter bear no responsibility for the actions of the British Army or the British government in Northern Ireland. In a constitutional monarchy, responsibility for government decisions rests solely with the ministers who are elected politicians. Gerry Adams, on the other hand, despite consistently denying it, was known to be part of the IRA leadership and is therefore most likely personally responsible for several casualties related to IRA operations.

I don't intend to go into the discussion about whether the IRA actions were justified or not (personally, I think they were not), but, in any case, Prince Charles has never been an active part to that struggle, whereas Gerry Adams played a leading role.
The Queen is the Head of State and Prince of Wales is representing her when he is travelling. It is irrelevant who carried out the actions. The Head of State represents all peoples and their actions, good or bad.

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We ask a very great deal of the Royal Family when we expect them to mask their feelings, and be civil to such despicable persons..in the cause of 'the greater good'.
They are also diplomats. This is what diplomats do. He is not in Ireland meet personal friends.
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There is an important difference though. Prince Charles or the Queen for that matter bear no responsibility for the actions of the British Army or the British government in Northern Ireland. In a constitutional monarchy, responsibility for government decisions rests solely with the ministers who are elected politicians. Gerry Adams, on the other hand, despite consistently denying it, was known to be part of the IRA leadership and is therefore most likely personally responsible for several casualties related to IRA operations.

I don't intend to go into the discussion about whether the IRA actions were justified or not (personally, I think they were not), but, in any case, Prince Charles has never been an active part to that struggle, whereas Gerry Adams played a leading role.
Gerry Adams has never admitted remorse for anything despite him being either the number one or number two man in the IRA during the Troubles and still defends the murder of Lord Mountbatten to this day.
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I can't help but chuckle at the pics of the Irish president Mr. Michael Higgins. He looks like an elderly leprechaun.
He does seem magically delicious doesn't he. You almost want to just hug him. I noticed that on the occasion when he met with The Queen.
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