Charles and Camilla to Marry

[T-R-O-U-B-L-E]

It's nice though they have been nin love for a very long time...wow,they got married umm after 30 years or so? thats Romantic as a story apart from how sorry we feel as it was never ment for Lady Di' to be happy ...

[sara1981]

I would agree with all posts!

Camilla cant become Queen of England nor become Princess of Wales follow famous Princess Diana because Diana have took it! Diana still knew as Diana,Princess of Wales but Camilla need have create as titles but that okay duchess of cornwall or whatever many people wanted knew about late Princess Diana of Wales but Camilla cant took Diana's titles Prince William told Camilla about it!

but im really admire Prince Charles when i met him at Prince's trust in Nov.2002 but i not really BIG fans of Camilla but i really admire of Princess Diana but i never met Princess Diana before.

Sara Boyce

[norwegianne]

I think the title Princess of Wales is mostly connected to Diana, because there are very few who actually remember another person carrying it. Before her the last Princess of Wales was Princess Mary, later Queen Mary. As King George and Queen Mary's son, Edward, wasn't married, the title went out of use when they ascended to the throne. That is, admittedly, quite a while back, and the gap from 1910 to 1981 blurs memories.

[kinneret5764]

I think the inquiry into the Prince's finances, particularly those related to Camilla was the prompt for this wedding announcement. A marraige would make Camilla "official" and thereby exempt from any future inquiries because she would now be a spouse.

[MoonlightRhapsody]

I'm not exactly surprised, but I don't feel congratulatory about it either. I don't mean to be a kill-joy, but Camilla will always have a negative taste in my mouth. I know that Diana is dead, but it's hard not to look at Camilla and say 'you helped wreak someone else's marriage'. Congratulations Charles, you finally get to marry your mistress.

Now I'm confused. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it at least frowned upon by the Church of England to have two divorcees marry, especially since one was a factor in the collapse of a marriage AND if one or both of their former spouses are still alive? I thought as king, Charles was going to be the defender of the faith, not the hypocritical representative of it.

[Elspeth]

I have a question to those more informed than me: Prince Charles has other titles than the title of Duke of Cornwall. So will Camilla also gain the titles Duchess of Rothesay, Countess of Chester and Countess of Carrick?

There's no reason why she shouldn't. The thing is that as far as I know, she also gains the title Princess of Wales; it's just that she won't be known by that title. I mean, if Charles is Prince of Wales and she marries him and if the law about inheritance of titles hasn't been changed, I don't see how it could be avoided that in theory she's also the Princess of Wales. So far nobody seems to be saying that she won't have the right to that title, it just says she won't be known by it.

[RoseMary]

She will not have the title of Princess of Wales or any other of Charles titles. Just Duchess of Cornwall and when Charles is king she will be known as Princess Consort and not Queen. That is what I heard in the news this morining,all the people they interviewed were extremely clear that she would not have the title of Princess of Wales. Which i think is a good idea. She doesn't have any legal right to it either because it will be civil service, there is going to be a prayer service after the wedding at Windsor Castle. Although I think Charles could get arranged so she has those titles but until then she has no legal right to them.

[Warren]

Camilla will have all of Charles's titles, just in the feminine form (eg Duchess of Rothesay, Countess of Chester etc). This is the Common Law. However, she will be KNOWN as HRH The Duchess of Cornwall.

[cute_girl]

looking at Camilla's pix,I can see that we're gonna have so much to talk in the ugly brides thread in 2 months

[Julia]

Originally Posted by cute_girl

looking at Camilla's pix,I can see that we're gonna have so much to talk in the ugly brides thread in 2 months

Please try and keep the discussion polite and appropriate.

Thank you.

[Dennism]

The Prince of Wales on his way from Clarence House to Windsor Castle on February 10.

[lori]

It's a mud pitch out there including Charles and Camilla's very own in terms of the stylish title. Like she has a say in what she wants to be known as such. It was already preceeding her will long before her wants, called Camilla styled as Mistress (street style). I'm not saying this just to spite her, no, this is to point out the hypocracy of such thing as legally known and it's relation to stylishly known. What's legally called is legally termed, and what's stlyish known is up to the tide? Call me Duchess because I don't want to offend your sensitivity? well if you've alreaady known the objection, either you don't give a hoot, or you don't marry at all. What's this nonsense about style and toyiny!

[Monalisa]

of couse i'm happy for them, we are always happy when we see people who love each other coronorate their love by such as union, but i can't hide my sadness about princess Diana and her dramatic and tragic life,if prince charles and camilla had taken this decision years before, diana would not finish her life dramatically,she looked in love and happy with her prince,but the truth was not as pretty as the dream of the young woman

[Elspeth]

It's amazing how quickly times change, isn't it? 30 years ago, when Charles and Camilla first wanted to get married, the Queen wouldn't allow it because Camilla was a commoner. Now things have come full circle and they are finally getting married. Think of how much sadness and heartbreak on both sides could have been avoided if they had been allowed to marry the first time around.

I'm pretty sure there was more to it than that. Charles and Camilla were both rather young when they met for the first time, and Charles was in the Navy and away at sea for long stretches. Plus, he was still very much under Lord Mountbatten's influence, and Mountbatten seemed to be angling for Charles to marry one of the Mountbatten granddaughters so he would have been counselling against Charles marrying Camilla, which would probably have carried a lot of weight with Charles. And then there was the problem of Camilla's past affairs (and her relationship with Andrew Parker Bowles, which was overlapping with her relationship with Charles) and the fact that her family wasn't noble and also had some scandals in it, and the whole lot together would have been too much.

Charles doesn't sound like the world's most decisive or forceful character, and he'd have had to be both of the above in order to marry Camilla back in the early 1970s. The Duke of Windsor was still (just about) alive then, and the Duchess was very much so; I'm sure the Queen Mother would have hated having her beloved grandson's name dragged through the press in the same breath as the Duke's.

So Charles ended up marrying someone who was eminently suitable on paper and disastrous as a partner for him in real life. If someone was to send a story like this to a publisher as a piece of fiction, it'd be rejected for being too far-fetched.

The whole thing really has been a mess. I hope they can finally salvage something out of it; it's just a horrible shame that it involved such an awful tragedy for Diana before it was all over.

[GrandDuchess]

This photograph which has been released by Clarence House today shows the Prince of Wales and Mrs Camilla Parker Bowles at Birkhall in Scotland last month as the two were leaving for a Sunday church service

[Dennism]

"So Charles ended up marrying someone who was eminently suitable on paper and disastrous as a partner for him in real life. If someone was to send a story like this to a publisher as a piece of fiction, it'd be rejected for being too far-fetched."


Well said, Elspeth and it´s a shame that as wife to the future king that she will not be Queen nor will she be called the Princess of Wales for she will be married to the Prince of Wales. Also it´s interested to note that the last prince(ss) consort was Albert, the husband of Queen Victoria, who also had quite considerable opposition as well and he turned out to be quite the right husband and advisor to Victoria.

[Elspeth]

Congratulations to the Couple. I wish them the best. It´s unfortunate that she will not be called the Princess of Wales for she is marrying the Prince of Wales. And too bad she will not be called Queen Camilla. I like the ring of that.

It may yet happen. The wording on the Prince of Wales website says "it is intended" that she be called Princess Consort; it doesn't sound as though it's set in rock. In another five or ten years, when people have got used to the idea of Charles and Camilla as a couple and more and more young people see Diana just as part of history, who knows what might happen.

[Elspeth]

Now I'm confused. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it at least frowned upon by the Church of England to have two divorcees marry, especially since one was a factor in the collapse of a marriage AND if one or both of their former spouses are still alive? I thought as king, Charles was going to be the defender of the faith, not the hypocritical representative of it.

Yes, that's correct. However, they aren't having a church wedding, just a civil ceremony followed by a service of prayer and dedication in the church, which has been standard procedure for the remarriage of divorcees with a living ex-spouse for a long time.

[marezdote]

I wish they had chosen a different pic to release as their engagement pic. I am not a fan of the one they released.

[monos26]

I know I'm in the minority, but I'm happy for them. They obviously love each other. As much as Diana was loved, it just really sounds like Charles and her should never have gotten married. Luckily, there is now more emphasis on the English royals being happy in their marriages, as there is the other royal houses.