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Old 07-24-2014, 11:09 PM
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There are a number of posters on here who spout " christian " values but dont walk the walk. christian values are about the new testament, and too many talk old testament " eye for an eye".

charles and camilla both spoke themost extreme act of contrition at the blessing of their union.

Why do people on here presume to stand in judgement on others?

Careful because you too will be judged.

The Christian faith is about forgiveness, charity and love. More of you should remember that and act upon it.
I love your take on things!
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Old 07-25-2014, 10:15 AM
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This is a good point.

I think I would have been more convinced of Charles conviction (for being sorry) if he had given Camilla up just as other Christians have done when they have truly repented. Someone gave an example earlier...the greedy priest that gave up all his possessions when he repented.

To repent is not only to say sorry but to turn a new leaf. Give up the sinful way. It is very difficult indeed if one is doing it on one's own strength.
Of course, now that they have repented and married, they are no longer estranged from God. It's similar to William and Catherine marrying after years of living together. Once a person repents and receives forgiveness, there is no need for him to give up him lover to "prove" his repentance. The church only requires them to get married and avoid the sin in the future.

The reason I initiated this conversation is because I wanted to know whether the objection to Charles becoming the head of the Church of England was grounded on his decision to have a civil ceremony (and a blessing is different than being married in the church--which is why they chose to do it that way) or his affair with Camilla during his marriage to Diana.

It seems obvious to me that the posters who have responded just haven't forgiven him for his infidelity to Diana and probably never will. My sense is that the same people would not have an objection if in an alternate universe, Charles and Diana (both guilty of adultery) were still married when Charles ascends to the throne.
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Old 07-25-2014, 11:04 AM
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The nauseatingly self-righteous views expressed by SOME of the self proclaimed 'Christians' here, make me glad religion no longer has a stranglehold on the morals of people in this country..

Believe in your 'invisible friend' if you MUST, but the days when it can be imposed on the rest of us are fortunately LONG GONE..
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Old 07-26-2014, 01:23 PM
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Ok there is no reason to insult Christians and mock them because you are mad at one or two in this thread.
I also think the topic of religion needs to be changed or the mods will come in here, they are on a trip this week with closing and changing thread convos by deleting things.
I do agree with you. Its the annual summertime royals going on vacation season and without a lot of goings on to talk about and dissect, we sometimes derail threads in ways that we normally wouldn't.

Religion and spirituality is a very private matter and it is best to leave them out of a public forum. There is no right and there is no wrong as we all perceive these matters in our own personal ways.

With this in mind, what we do know is that Charles and Camilla are legally married, the marriage has been blessed by the CoE and there is no reason why Charles shouldn't become the Supreme Governor of the Church of England upon his coronation.

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Old 07-27-2014, 12:14 AM
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I'll finish off by saying that I don't see it as my place to forgive (or not forgive) Charles or Camilla. What they do does not concern me, it is for God and the English to forgive or not and their churches to decide if they want to keep any monarch as the head of their church or not...
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Old 08-30-2014, 09:01 PM
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Several off topic posts (rehashing Charles/Camilla pre 2005) have been deleted.
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I looked at some thread titles and this seemed to be the best one to post my observation of Charles since his marriage to Camilla. He seems happy. He seems more relaxed than he did with Diana. He is more willing to indulge in -shall I say- silliness? Looking at pictures of him from his trip to Mexico, there are several where he is dancing, waving a handkerchief, speaking jokingly of himself as an "old ruin". When married to Diana, he would have never let himself go crazy like we've seen in recent months. He was always so staid and controlled. I don't know how the British people feel about this, but after 30 years, it does seem he's entitled to be happy.
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Old 01-21-2015, 12:52 AM
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I looked at some thread titles and this seemed to be the best one to post my observation of Charles since his marriage to Camilla. He seems happy. He seems more relaxed than he did with Diana. He is more willing to indulge in -shall I say- silliness? Looking at pictures of him from his trip to Mexico, there are several where he is dancing, waving a handkerchief, speaking jokingly of himself as an "old ruin". When married to Diana, he would have never let himself go crazy like we've seen in recent months. He was always so staid and controlled. I don't know how the British people feel about this, but after 30 years, it does seem he's entitled to be happy.

Yes, Charles is happy once again. There were some happy moments in his first marriage as well. No marriage is perfect, and I'm sure he and Camilla have their ups and downs like all other marriages. He's older and more wiser and it's time for him to relax and enjoy life.
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Old 02-02-2015, 12:39 AM
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Charles and Camilla spend much of their time apart and live separately
But the couple are still 'fantastic' together after almost 10 years of marriage
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Separate lives and a rather saucy secret: An intimate portrait of their marriage reveals how Camilla has kept Charles happy | Daily Mail Online
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Is that normal in Royal circles? The Queen and Prince Phillip seem happy. I don't think it's good that they can't live together.
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Old 02-02-2015, 01:57 AM
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Is that normal in Royal circles? The Queen and Prince Phillip seem happy. I don't think it's good that they can't live together.

Charles and Camilla do live together, but she also have her private time with her family at Raymill House.
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Typical Richard Kay spiel. There isn't much in the article that we haven't heard before.
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Charles and Camilla spend much of their time apart and live separately
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Separate lives and a rather saucy secret: An intimate portrait of their marriage reveals how Camilla has kept Charles happy | Daily Mail Online
What an unpleasant article. The DailyMail has the construction of these kind of articles down to a science: a 'science' of copy-and-paste. Talk about cobbling together every innuendo that could be found. Sheesh.
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It must be stultifyingly boring to be a DM journalist. Days of utter monotony must pass in their offices when not even the tumbleweed bothers to drift by as they try to think up new ways to present exactly the same story.

Are there any other royals in their mid-sixties who are written about in such a way?
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It must be stultifyingly boring to be a DM journalist. Days of utter monotony must pass in their offices when not even the tumbleweed bothers to drift by as they try to think up new ways to present exactly the same story.
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No. Why all this is being written about an older man, is a question imo. It's very unappealing. Who do they think cares? It's like they are trying to keep alive an old festering infection with (perhaps) younger readers? All this fevered fantasy is grim, bordering on the voyeuristic (not saying any of it is true). Sorry, I just don't get it about Charles.
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No. Why all this is being written about an older man, is a question imo. It's very unappealing. Who do they think cares? It's like they are trying to keep alive an old festering infection with (perhaps) younger readers? All this fevered fantasy is grim, bordering on the voyeuristic (not saying any of it is true). Sorry, I just don't get it about Charles.
I do think the media are trying to keep alive old news and events for younger readers. The problem with that though is the younger readers are probably less emotional about Charles and Camilla on account of not having lived through it all when it happened, and the older readers (like me!) are bored to tears hearing about it. So the DM is doing a disservice to readers young and old.

Charles and Camilla's marriage works because they are older and wiser than they were before and at a certain age one tends to grow into a comfortable situation that works well for both people.
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I do think the media are trying to keep alive old news and events for younger readers. The problem with that though is the younger readers are probably less emotional about Charles and Camilla on account of not having lived through it all when it happened, and the older readers (like me!) are bored to tears hearing about it. So the DM is doing a disservice to readers young and old.
Thank you for saying this. It is strange, especially when you consider how old these people are. Plus the supposed sexual offenses seem pretty banal to me. It's hard to understand.

Of course, I have read about it all, and had conversations with my mother about some of it, but she was a very level-headed person. She gave me some insights but overall I still find the whole Diana fascination and Charles bashing odd.

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Charles and Camilla's marriage works because they are older and wiser than they were before and at a certain age one tends to grow into a comfortable situation that works well for both people.
They seem fine to me. Anything more is not my business. Not anything I'm interested in. Not sure why anyone would be interested in that kind of thing, but that's just me. To each his own.
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Richard Kay and Geoffrey Levy strike again.

The headline is states how Camilla keeps Charles happy but there are 28 mentions of Charles' ex-wife with of course her picture.

All the so called sources are unnamed.
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On reflection on the article; there were a lot of Charles and Camilla praising, but it was very dismissive of Diana, IMO.
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Let's face it if the DM or papers like them didn't write the very news you all hate there would be hardly anything to post about.
I find it funny you promote the very thing you hate


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