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Old 07-24-2014, 11:09 PM
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There are a number of posters on here who spout " christian " values but dont walk the walk. christian values are about the new testament, and too many talk old testament " eye for an eye".

charles and camilla both spoke themost extreme act of contrition at the blessing of their union.

Why do people on here presume to stand in judgement on others?

Careful because you too will be judged.

The Christian faith is about forgiveness, charity and love. More of you should remember that and act upon it.
I love your take on things!
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Old 07-25-2014, 10:15 AM
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This is a good point.

I think I would have been more convinced of Charles conviction (for being sorry) if he had given Camilla up just as other Christians have done when they have truly repented. Someone gave an example earlier...the greedy priest that gave up all his possessions when he repented.

To repent is not only to say sorry but to turn a new leaf. Give up the sinful way. It is very difficult indeed if one is doing it on one's own strength.
Of course, now that they have repented and married, they are no longer estranged from God. It's similar to William and Catherine marrying after years of living together. Once a person repents and receives forgiveness, there is no need for him to give up him lover to "prove" his repentance. The church only requires them to get married and avoid the sin in the future.

The reason I initiated this conversation is because I wanted to know whether the objection to Charles becoming the head of the Church of England was grounded on his decision to have a civil ceremony (and a blessing is different than being married in the church--which is why they chose to do it that way) or his affair with Camilla during his marriage to Diana.

It seems obvious to me that the posters who have responded just haven't forgiven him for his infidelity to Diana and probably never will. My sense is that the same people would not have an objection if in an alternate universe, Charles and Diana (both guilty of adultery) were still married when Charles ascends to the throne.
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Old 07-25-2014, 11:04 AM
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The nauseatingly self-righteous views expressed by SOME of the self proclaimed 'Christians' here, make me glad religion no longer has a stranglehold on the morals of people in this country..

Believe in your 'invisible friend' if you MUST, but the days when it can be imposed on the rest of us are fortunately LONG GONE..
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Old 07-26-2014, 01:23 PM
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Ok there is no reason to insult Christians and mock them because you are mad at one or two in this thread.
I also think the topic of religion needs to be changed or the mods will come in here, they are on a trip this week with closing and changing thread convos by deleting things.
I do agree with you. Its the annual summertime royals going on vacation season and without a lot of goings on to talk about and dissect, we sometimes derail threads in ways that we normally wouldn't.

Religion and spirituality is a very private matter and it is best to leave them out of a public forum. There is no right and there is no wrong as we all perceive these matters in our own personal ways.

With this in mind, what we do know is that Charles and Camilla are legally married, the marriage has been blessed by the CoE and there is no reason why Charles shouldn't become the Supreme Governor of the Church of England upon his coronation.

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Old 07-27-2014, 12:14 AM
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I'll finish off by saying that I don't see it as my place to forgive (or not forgive) Charles or Camilla. What they do does not concern me, it is for God and the English to forgive or not and their churches to decide if they want to keep any monarch as the head of their church or not...
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Several off topic posts (rehashing Charles/Camilla pre 2005) have been deleted.
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