The Royal Forums Coat of Arms


Join The Royal Forums Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
  #1241  
Old 05-12-2013, 03:17 AM
MARG's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Christchurch, New Zealand
Posts: 4,348
Like it or not, it is always the squeaky wheel that gets the oil and that sop was to a small but vocal anti Camilla brigade whipped into frenzy by the paparazzi.

But now in 2013, I think the paps are having to review their position as they realise they need to establish a new relationship with the future King and his wife (witness that somewhat witless but harmless piece on Camilla by Richard Kay), as their future is looking a bit bleak. Charles abhors them and both William and Harry loath and despise them.

So far at least, Camilla has responded to them with grace and wit and Catherine, while tentative, seems to be following her lead rather than those of Charles, William and Harry, so it's a no-brainer that being nice to those two ladies is their best bet for improved future relations.
__________________

__________________
MARG
"Words ought to be a little wild, for they are assaults of thoughts on the unthinking." - JM Keynes
Reply With Quote
  #1242  
Old 05-12-2013, 03:35 AM
Roslyn's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Tintenbar, Australia
Posts: 2,794
Though I would like to see Camilla become Queen, it is quite possible that she is strongly against the idea. Maybe she only agreed to marry Charles on condition that she not be required to take that title. I wouldn't want to see her forced into it now if she really doesn't want it, and the "intended" bit allows her to retain that option.
__________________

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #1243  
Old 05-12-2013, 03:47 AM
Osipi's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: On the west side of North up from Back, United States
Posts: 4,182
This explanation to me is perhaps the soundest. I do remember at that time of the engagement/marriage it was reported that Camilla wasn't overly anxious to jump into the royal fishbowl. She was already middle aged and had raised her own family and most likely preferred life in the background. She had absolutely no clue how well she would mesh in being the Prince of Wales consort or how she would handle the intense scrutiny of the public and press.

Years down to the line we've come to realize just how well she has adapted to royal life at Charles' side and perhaps the idea of being Queen Consort is not such a scary thing for her anymore. She's been wonderful to the people she's met and at the State Opening of Parliament, she looked every inch the Queen Consort in waiting that she really is.
__________________
“We live in a world where we have to hide to make love, while violence is practiced in broad daylight.”
~~~ John Lennon ~~~
Reply With Quote
  #1244  
Old 05-31-2013, 08:16 AM
Nico's Avatar
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Paris, France
Posts: 1,356
I came across this little article from this great blog and thought it was the perfect expression of something felt by many, including me.

An Apology to Camilla — Say What?!?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #1245  
Old 05-31-2013, 09:36 AM
Baroness of Books's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Bookstacks, United States
Posts: 5,773
Nice piece, Nico, and I know a lot of people have experienced that turnaround in feelings toward Camilla and would like to see her accept the title of Queen Consort when that time comes.
__________________
A book should be either a bandit or a rebel or a man in the crowd..... D.H. Lawrence
Reply With Quote
  #1246  
Old 05-31-2013, 10:07 AM
Dman's Avatar
Majesty
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Midwest, United States
Posts: 7,392
...I think Camilla is doing a great job as a senior member of the royal family.

I realized a while back that Camilla most likely have always been a nice person. I don't think Charles would've had an affair with a very nasty and evil person. Diana went on to see Camilla that way because Camilla was having an affair with her husband and I think Diana had a every right to have those feelings towards Camilla. Those feelings were Diana's business, not mines.

I see Camilla has a very nice, funny lady and who's doing a good job as Charles's consort. She made her mistakes back in the day, it's part of royal history, it will follow her to her grave and none of us will ever forget it, but I think we all have to move on and look to the future with hope and give Camilla some due credit.
__________________
"If you are always trying to be normal you will never know how amazing you can be."

Dr. Maya Angelou
Reply With Quote
  #1247  
Old 05-31-2013, 08:12 PM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto (ON) & London (UK), Canada
Posts: 5,260
The past is the past. Right now we have a Prince of Wales who seems happy in both his public and his private life which can only be a good thing. HRH The Duchess of Cornwall has been gaining public acceptance over the 8 years of the marriage and most people have been able to move on and put the vitriol of the 90s behind them. Charles and Camilla have moved on. William and Harry seem to have accepted the facts of their life and moved on, and seem pleased that their father is a happy man. The Cof E have blessed their marriage. What more can people ask for?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #1248  
Old 05-31-2013, 08:58 PM
Osipi's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: On the west side of North up from Back, United States
Posts: 4,182
Definitely time once again for a clean-up squad in here and for a nice relaxing coffee break!
__________________
“We live in a world where we have to hide to make love, while violence is practiced in broad daylight.”
~~~ John Lennon ~~~
Reply With Quote
  #1249  
Old 05-31-2013, 09:37 PM
blauerengel's Avatar
Royal Highness
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 1,729
...we should look forward and see how good it looks now! Charles and Camilla have a solid & balanced relationship,William is happily married and expects his first child and Harry seems to be more mature now and has a good job in the army...everyone is getting on well with their life! No need to talk the past over and over....

Some people are just meant for each other :-) Charles and Camilla have a lot in common & they are so happy together. Furthermore they are a great working team,everywhere they go they are accepted with friendly welcome and the people enjoy being with them. They are doing a good job in representing their country and they are behaving properly and decent as I expect from a royal.

Thank you for that well written explanation. I am old enough to have witnessed the whole show and it was a marriage than should never have taken place. If you look back at royals in the past. Many married out of duty and had a mistress on the side. Many times more than one. Marriage was a duty and love was not considered. I am glad that era is over.

Yes, I think that it is good that nowadays everyone can chose a partner they love,or at least someone who they have a good relationship with,someone they respect and trust. It must have been a daunting prospect for the royals of the old days to be married off to a person they did not know at all! I am happy for how Charles and Camilla turned out today and I am also looking forward to Catherine´s baby and hope for a good future for the whole family!
__________________
Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it.
Avoiding danger in the long run is no safer than outright exposure.
Life is either a daring adventure,or nothing
. Helen Keller
Reply With Quote
  #1250  
Old 06-01-2013, 03:28 PM
Courtier
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Washington, United States
Posts: 868
Charles and Camilla both seem very comfortable in their own skins. Prince Charles should be more stressed as he takes on additional royal duties, but he actually seems more relaxed and happy. I'm sure his marriage is a big part of it, but it may also be William's marriage and Prince Harry's growing confidence. He's got a lot to be grateful for and he seems to know it.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #1251  
Old 06-01-2013, 04:44 PM
XeniaCasaraghi's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: 1729 Noneofyourbusiness Drive, United States
Posts: 2,370
I wonder if this thread is going to be closed. All I will say is I remember the moment when my opinion of Charles and Camilla started to change. It was when they were at the alter in 2005 and Cam was having trouble finding a correct page in a book and Charles reached over to help her find it.
__________________
Princess Grace, April 19, 1956
Princess Margaret Rose, May 6, 1960
Crown Princess Mette-Marit, August 25, 2001
Jaqueline Bouvier Kennedy, September 12, 1953
Countess Stephanie of Belgium October 20, 2012
Reply With Quote
  #1252  
Old 06-01-2013, 06:08 PM
Warren's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 15,427
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osipi View Post
Definitely time once again for a clean-up squad in here and for a nice relaxing coffee break!
Too true!
Posts rehashing the same-old same-old have been removed.

Warren
British Forums moderator
__________________
Seeking information? Check out the extensive Royal A-Z
Reply With Quote
  #1253  
Old 06-02-2013, 12:59 AM
MARG's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Christchurch, New Zealand
Posts: 4,348
Quote:
Originally Posted by XeniaCasaraghi View Post
I wonder if this thread is going to be closed. All I will say is I remember the moment when my opinion of Charles and Camilla started to change. It was when they were at the alter in 2005 and Cam was having trouble finding a correct page in a book and Charles reached over to help her find it.
That was a really a very sweet and tender moment.

Another such moment for me was when they were on tour in Africa and crossing a log bridge and he just put his hand out behind him for her to hold on to. It was such a telling moment and showed the way they compliment each other.
__________________
MARG
"Words ought to be a little wild, for they are assaults of thoughts on the unthinking." - JM Keynes
Reply With Quote
  #1254  
Old 06-02-2013, 03:38 AM
blauerengel's Avatar
Royal Highness
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 1,729
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martha View Post
Iam not sure If Camilla is the charles´love. Because I have read a lot of things about Charles.
Well, I can´t explain it in any other way-just look at Diana- blonde, perfect figure, perfect teeth, young,innocent and charming-why should a man leave her for Camilla if it was not for love?
Charles & Camilla went through a lot of difficulties to be together, now they can have a normal life as a married couple and I guess that is proof enough that they are "soul partners" as I like to call such people
__________________
Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it.
Avoiding danger in the long run is no safer than outright exposure.
Life is either a daring adventure,or nothing
. Helen Keller
Reply With Quote
  #1255  
Old 06-02-2013, 04:45 AM
Osipi's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: On the west side of North up from Back, United States
Posts: 4,182
I think that as we have watched Camilla and Charles together since their marriage in 2005, we have seen a few glimpses into what makes their relationship so compatible and so long lasting. It takes quite a bit more to cement a good, intimate, working relationship than the outer appearance of the human body. If that was all that was needed, I'd wager that 95% of people over the age of 60 would be single as physical attractiveness flies out the window and heads south for the most of us.

With Charles and Camilla, over the years they've built something the grew on a solid foundation of friendship. Although we've seen some glimpses of tender moments between them, I think its more common to see in their public lives how they seem to enjoy what they're doing together looking like the best friends that they are.

This picture, which they ended up using as their Christmas card in 2008, I think really expresses what I'm trying to put across.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...7/One-giggles-
__________________
“We live in a world where we have to hide to make love, while violence is practiced in broad daylight.”
~~~ John Lennon ~~~
Reply With Quote
  #1256  
Old 06-02-2013, 12:22 PM
Al_bina's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: City, Kazakhstan
Posts: 5,884
It is all nice and sentimental. It would be a safe guess to say that the relationship between Prince Charles and his current wife is mostly built on the PR image by Mark Bolland. This is enough to keep the vulgar herd at large happy.
__________________
"I never did mind about the little things"
Amanda, "Point of No Return"
Reply With Quote
  #1257  
Old 06-02-2013, 12:42 PM
Nico's Avatar
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Paris, France
Posts: 1,356
Quote:
Originally Posted by Al_bina View Post
It is all nice and sentimental. It would be a safe guess to say that the relationship between Prince Charles and his current wife is mostly built on the PR image by Mark Bolland. This is enough to keep the vulgar herd at large happy.
Well i'm perfectly aware that for you the occidental world is more or less a sordid place with dreadful people with even more dreadful manners but STILL i believe there's a genuine affection between these two and you just can't choregraph a look, a smile or a touch.

for exemple :

Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles Photos - The Prince Of Wales And Duchess Of Cornwall Visit Australia - Day 2 - Zimbio

Charles And Camilla Attend Annual Mey Games - Pictures - Zimbio

Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles Photos - The Prince Of Wales And Duchess Of Cornwall Visit New Zealand - Day 7 - Zimbio

Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles Photos - Prince Charles, Prince of Wales and Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall Visit Borough Market - Zimbio

Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles Photos - Prince Charles Visits Devon With Camilla - Zimbio

Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles Photos - The Prince Of Wales And Duchess Of Cornwall Visit New Zealand - Day 5 - Zimbio

So call me naive, vulgar herd or whatever you want but there 's some serious affection, if not love, out there and not just a PR stunt.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #1258  
Old 06-02-2013, 12:55 PM
blauerengel's Avatar
Royal Highness
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 1,729
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osipi View Post
I think that as we have watched Camilla and Charles together since their marriage in 2005, we have seen a few glimpses into what makes their relationship so compatible and so long lasting. It takes quite a bit more to cement a good, intimate, working relationship than the outer appearance of the human body. If that was all that was needed, I'd wager that 95% of people over the age of 60 would be single as physical attractiveness flies out the window and heads south for the most of us.

With Charles and Camilla, over the years they've built something the grew on a solid foundation of friendship. Although we've seen some glimpses of tender moments between them, I think its more common to see in their public lives how they seem to enjoy what they're doing together looking like the best friends that they are.
That´s very true, I could not have said it better
Unfortunately many people still believe that looks and youth is all that matters for love & succesful relationships.
That may be the reason why everyone is surprised when a pretty young woman gets left for a appearance-wise less attractive person with more experience and other qualities that are less apparent and only known to the people who know her personally.
I never thought that C&C was anything but true love,that impression and feeling only grew stronger over the years as I have watched them together. Especially after they got married nobody could doubt their love, I can not understand why anyone thinks differently but I have to accept that some ppl do not share my point of view...
__________________
Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it.
Avoiding danger in the long run is no safer than outright exposure.
Life is either a daring adventure,or nothing
. Helen Keller
Reply With Quote
  #1259  
Old 06-02-2013, 01:06 PM
Ish's Avatar
Ish Ish is offline
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 2,378
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nico View Post
...I believe there's a genuine affection between these two and you just can't choregraph a look, a smile or a touch...
I love these pictures, thanks for sharing them.

The little moments between them when they share a look or a touch, or when you see one of them do something for the other is what makes me love this couple. I doubt the PR campaign would have happened at all if they weren't in love; Charles was never obliged to remarry, or to marry Camilla at all, and could have just as easily remained a bachelor with a mistress (or mistresses). He didn't want to do that, he wanted to be with Camilla despite whatever difficulties doing so may have presented - that to me says that this is a relationship founded on love.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #1260  
Old 06-02-2013, 01:13 PM
blauerengel's Avatar
Royal Highness
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 1,729
I also enjoyed the pictures a lot, sweet moments of C&C together! They are an ideal couple to me-same age,interests and sense of humour plus they are best friends and loyal to each other which is very rare to find.

Their wedding a PR-campaign?
The Prince has risked a lot, Camilla was one the most hated living persons in GB, why should anyone want them to marry for PR reasons,it just does not make any sense at all...
The ideas of some Diana-fans are absolutely ridiculous, I am sure that she would have liked Charles to be happy and she would have grown a friendly relationship with him over the years...this hate-campaign against Camilla would certainly not please her!
__________________

__________________
Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it.
Avoiding danger in the long run is no safer than outright exposure.
Life is either a daring adventure,or nothing
. Helen Keller
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
camilla, duchess of cornwall, marriage, prince charles, prince of wales


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





Popular Tags
belgium brussels carl philip charlene chris o'neill crown prince frederik crown princess mary crown princess mette-marit crown princess victoria current events engagement fashion genealogy germany grand duke henri hohenzollern infanta sofia jordan king carl xvi gustav king constantine ii king felipe king felipe vi king harald king juan carlos king philippe king willem-alexander letizia luxembourg nobility official visit olympics ottoman pieter van vollenhoven poland president hollande president komorowski prince albert prince albert ii prince carl philip prince constantijn prince daniel prince floris prince pieter-christiaan princess aimee princess anita princess ariane princess beatrix princess charlene princess laurentien princess madeleine princess margriet princess marilene princess mary queen fabiola queen letizia queen mathilde queen maxima queen rania queen silvia queen sofia royal royal fashion russia sofia hellqvist spain state visit sweden the hague wedding winter olympics 2014



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:04 PM.

Social Knowledge Networks

eXTReMe Tracker
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2014
Jelsoft Enterprises

Royal News Delivered to your Email!

You can get the latest Royal News right in your inbox.

unsusbcribe at anytime with one click

Close [X]