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07-19-2008, 09:10 PM
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Don't get me wrong- I really like Camilla. I think that she is a wonderful woman who loves her family and is loyal to the royal family and her country. She also does lots of good works.
However, I think that she will be remembered most often as the woman who had an affair with Prince Charles and/or wrecked his marriage with Diana. Yes, it is only one of the reasons why the marriage didn't work. But, for some, it is the strongest or most important. |
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07-19-2008, 09:50 PM
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Too early to tell, IMO. If Charles dies before the Queen, Camilla's legacy will be different from her legacy if she spends a number of years as Queen Consort; her legacy as Queen Consort would be different from her legacy as Princess Consort. At this point it's largely conjecture.
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07-19-2008, 09:57 PM
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07-19-2008, 10:05 PM
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I tend to agree with acdc1. Duchess of Cornwall's legacy will always be marred by her earlier reputation.
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07-19-2008, 10:06 PM
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Well, I do think that as time passes her legacy as "the woman who had an affair with Charles and wrecked his marriage to Diana" will be considerably diminished in light of what she chooses to become involved in. I think she will long be remembered for her charity work with osteoporosis, for example. However, to think that Camilla will ever really be seperated from Diana is foolish--because the three of them are forever linked together. But, I think that as years pass that connection will give way to an appreciation for the Duchess and for her years of standing by Charles--even when ridiculed and maligned by many.
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07-19-2008, 10:49 PM
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Camilla will be remembered as the Consort of King Charles III; but unless she does something extraordinary on her own, that might be the only thing she'll be remembered for. She won't have any children in common with Charles for her to be remembered by; i.e. her DNA won't be part of the Royal Family.
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07-20-2008, 05:46 AM
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But it won't just be for her outstanding work to bring Osteoporosis into the 'news', but her involvement with Brook, the War Memorial Trust & Barnardos, to name just a few. She seems to involve herself with many of the smaller charities as well, the ones that are forgotten by many people. So her legacy will be different things to different people. Of course her main legacy will be that of Queen to Charles' King! 
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07-20-2008, 06:06 AM
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Yet on the other hand...  I'm not so sure her main legacy would be that of a Queen, if so crowned one. I can't 'see' Camilla being Queen, if so crowned one, long enough to create a legacy in such a way which would make her time spent as Queen stand out, or be something extraordinary. I could be wrong of course, I just can't invision it at this point in time. Perhaps because she isn't one yet?..lol. Possibly so. Most likely. We'll see. Whatever her legacy, I hope she's portrayed fairly and with warmth. Last edited by Madame Royale; 07-20-2008 at 06:11 AM. |
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07-20-2008, 06:47 AM
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07-20-2008, 08:03 AM
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Thanks for all the feedback. I really enjoyed reading the comments and I think they are pretty well balanced.
My own opinion echoes some of what has already been stated. I've never disputed Camilla's affect on Charles or her discretion. She appears to be down-to-earth and easy to get along with. She could even be fun to have as friend. I will give her the credit she deserves. I also agree that it is early to 'seal the deal' on her legacy, however, I think the predominant theme will be her place in the Wales' marriage and the resulting impact on the monarchy. Thanks again for all the feedback!  |
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07-20-2008, 09:13 AM
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I think Camilla will be regarded the love of Prince Charles' life and an enduring influencer in most of his adult life. Camilla's supportive and calm influence will be compared to QE the Queen Mother's influence on King George VI.
However I think Camilla may be suggested to be an enduring and crucual influencer in Prince Charle's life: after Queen mother, Lord Mountbatten, and Sir Laurens Van der poster. If in the future we will be able to have great access to Prince Charles's personal journals, exchanged notes between him and Camilla, the assessement of Camilla's influence will have more substances. I always think Camilla will be assumed her position in Charles's life is not only about love, but also her long-term unqiue understandings in his most ideas and his passions in building a greater society while making his own marks in history. Again, I do think Camilla shares the Queen Mother's certain traits in helping Charles to realise his dreams which endures his affections and gratitudes which sustains and deepens their ties. Last edited by love_cc; 07-20-2008 at 09:45 AM. |
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07-20-2008, 10:26 AM
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Consorts generally have more enduring influence in private. The Queen Mother had one legacy with the public as the Queen Mum but she had a far greater legacy in private as the matriarch of the family; this legacy was far more powerful and I'm beginning to agree with Elspeth that her influence in the private realm wasn't so good.
It seems Camilla's greatest legacy will be her influence on other members of the royal family; first, of course, Charles, and then of course her stepsons. If she is really as close to William and Harry as they appear to be, then her influence on the future of the British monarchy could be great. I still think her legacy (or Diana's for that matter) is not as important as the legacy that Charles and William as future monarchs make. Diana and/or Camilla could both have great legacies but unless Charles and William have their own legacies and their own influence on the Crown; their influence is as best peripheral.
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07-20-2008, 11:46 AM
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07-20-2008, 12:16 PM
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Diana was IMHO very much at fault when she didn't understand that to make a strong and lasting impact any organization needs one prominent figurehead. That's it with the monarchy and that's the same for charities. I seem to recall that the difficulties between Charles and Diana started when she refused to see that there culd not be two charity organizations at the same time under the label "BRF- Wales line". When she was denied her own "The Princess' Trust" she started to upstage Charles instead of accepting that her support would have meant so much to the Prince's Trust. (Sources: Morton, Dimbleby). Camilla won't ever upstage Charles, she supports his charities, she supports the monarchy, she does all she can and finds herself other rewards than those who cater to her vanity. Sorry to sound so harsh towards Diana but Charles has done so much for Britain, so many thoughts and ideas considered and put to use much earlier than others - for me the height of unfairness was when Diana claimed he was not fit to be a king because he couldn't form a real bond with his people. And that ugly label still sticks! We'll see what will happen once he is king. And only then we will be able to pas any judgment on Camilla's legacy. For her role in that so very personal triangle will be considered rather unimportant for the historians and later generations, but if it turns out she was the soul-mate of a great king, then she'll have a legacy. Even if this only means that trust and support is more important than selfishness and vanity.
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07-20-2008, 12:16 PM
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I can only say what I imagine will be, or already is, Camilla's legacy based on what she means to me. To me, she is the unabashed, prevailing against the odds, here to stay, here to be happy, and here to be herself Camilla.
I admire her because she is totally herself, but unlike some people in royalty who "be themselves," she is also always appropriate. She is out doing her work the way she does it naturally and not to please anyone, yet she does it with consideration of everyone's temperaments and never is offensive or obnoxious. She is a perfect "royal" in that sense.
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07-20-2008, 12:26 PM
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I think Camilla's legacy will depend a little on how old she is when she dies. She is only 60/61, so, God willing, she has many years ahead of her yet. Even if she only with us for the next twenty years there will be a whole generation of people who didn't experience the whole drama of the 90's but who will have lived in a world with the Duchess carrying out her duties supporting her husband and eventually her King and that will probably be the legacy she leaves behind. However, if she were to die in the near future I think that she would probably be forever known to quite a few as the third person in Charles and Diana's marriage.
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