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Old 12-29-2011, 11:10 PM
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Totally agree. This picture is a perfect illustration - that little boy is relating to her like he would his mother - or any trusted adult. Beautiful to see. Not everyone has that ability for instant repoire with a child. It cannot be forced. The hardest thing to watch is when someone is trying hard to create the connection with a child - one wants to whisper in their ear to hold back more. Not with Camilla - the children come towards her. Speaks volumes about her.

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That is very true. I know from experience that children can be the easiest to get along with, if they take to you (I know I prefer children [if with special needs then I'm even more at ease] to adults). The picture is telling us what words cannot. Probably one of my favorite images. Also, if you check in the thread that deals with the Duchess's patronages, you'll find pictures from the three decorating at Clarence House. There are quite a few images with a little boy who became Camilla's shadow. Again, says so much about her as a human being.

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Her PR people are working over time. The royal family must be worried prince Philips scare will have brought home the fact the Queen will not be around for ever and I sadly think it could spell the end. Charles doesn't have the same love and respect from the people and Camilla certainly doesn't No matter how much spin they say and write
I think you're being a little too dark here. We cannot know how the public will receive Charles and Camilla when the time actually comes. For all we know, they could be a hit too. Moods and sentiments change as time goes by.
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Old 12-29-2011, 11:39 PM
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There will always be a core of people who can't move forward and do what obviously William and Harry have done - forgive Camilla for any role she played in the ending of their parents' marriage - and as they lived through it they have a better understanding of what went on.

There will always be a core of people who think Charles is way better off without Diana (and yes I am in that camp).

The majority of the people really couldn't care less but many of them are the ones who are coming to see Camilla as a warm-hearted woman who suits Charles and makes him a more contented person and a better PoW than ever Diana could have done. Slowly more and more people from this group are coming to support Camilla - for whatever reason.

It must also be remembered that there are an increasing number of people who simply don't remember Diana. She has been dead now for 14+ years so basically kids now leaving school will have no real memory of her. In 10 years time those people will be reaching their late 20s. Time is the one thing still on Camilla's side in turning round public sentiment - as she is seen supporting Charles, as she is seen with William and/or Kate etc she will continue to win over people except the hard-core haters.
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Old 12-29-2011, 11:55 PM
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I don't think time is on her side or Charles the older they become the less they will appeal to younger people. William and Catherine are the future .C&C are irrelevant. Just a fact of having a long living monarch (which of course is wonderful and I hope continues)
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Old 12-30-2011, 12:35 AM
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I have come to like and respect Camilla far more than I ever will for her husband. She is a great asset to Charles.
IMO there is absolutely no point wallowing in the past its already done. Diana made her mark on history and will never be erased much to the dismay or happiness of some. It brings me great pleasure to know in the last year of her life Diana was out of that meaningless marriage and started to discover her self and enjoy life.
Why should Camilla be denied that?
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Old 12-30-2011, 12:40 AM
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I'm sure Camilla is happy but I think her public appeal isn't what her PR people are trying to make out. Most people , not royal followers , don't care about her.
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Old 12-30-2011, 01:05 AM
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Most people don't care about any of the royals.

Time is on the side of Charles and Camilla as the people rally around the aged new King - for the simple reason that they will empathise with him when his mother dies.

Charles has long-lived genes in his ancestry so there is a very good chance that he will live for 20+ years after the death of his mother - not such a short reign. Edward VII had a short reign because he had never taken very good care of his health while Charles has always taken good care of himself.

If Charles lives to the age of his grandmother - William will be in his late 60s when he becomes King - not such a young man by then. Even if Charles only lives as long as his father William will be late 50s. There will be a series of elderly monarchs over the next century.

By the time William becomes King his heir will be the popular young royal - just as Elizabeth was in the late 40s early 50s, Charles in the late 70s early 80s and now William. It is the way of the institution - to admire youth, despise middle age and then value old age and experience.
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Old 12-30-2011, 01:17 AM
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But does Camilla have long life genes ?and she hasn't looked after herself So maybe the idea of her being Queen won't happen
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Old 12-30-2011, 01:43 AM
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Her father lived to 89 so that is one long-lived ancestor. His father lived to 72. Maternal grandmother lived to 86. So like Charles she has some long-lived genes within a couple of generations.

Yes she has smoked but has now stopped - will that affect her in the years ahead - we don't know.
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Old 12-30-2011, 02:15 AM
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Her father lived to 89 so that is one long-lived ancestor. His father lived to 72. Maternal grandmother lived to 86. So like Charles she has some long-lived genes within a couple of generations.

Yes she has smoked but has now stopped - will that affect her in the years ahead - we don't know.
Camilla's main problem is that she may very well be have inherited the Osteoporosis that made her mother's life a living hell. That's genetic and even health nuts are brought low by it.
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But does Camilla have long life genes? And she hasn't looked after herself - so maybe the idea of her being Queen won't happen.
Whew! I'm not sure how what is written is actually meant, but there's something disquieting hearing someone wishing or 'hoping' for someone's demise. I can't believe that this is a healthy thing - especially towards a stranger. This goes too far. I don't know what to make of it. Perspective....
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Old 12-30-2011, 02:31 AM
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Whew! I'm not sure how what is written is actually meant, but there's something disquieting hearing someone wishing or 'hoping' for someone's demise. I can't believe that this is a healthy thing - especially towards a stranger. This goes too far. I don't know what to make of it. Perspective....
I never said I hoped or wished for her to die I was asking a question !!!!!!
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Old 12-30-2011, 03:09 AM
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I never said I hoped or wished for her to die I was asking a question !!!!!!
I am heartened - because I really found what I thought you were saying to be disturbing.

Genes are not determinative - cutting edge medicine is discovering. People are routinely defying their genes.

Wish her a long life. Wish her happiness and joy. Wish her continued presence in the lives of those who love her and for whom she is clearly a blessing. Hope for her husband that she will be there beside him as his Queen when he is King. Life and death are never certain no matter genes - events happen - so we need each other's goodwill, light and care. I'd want to send those vibes. But that's me.
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I was one of those people who was a Diana fan and had absolutely no use for Camilla - the third person in the marriage.
I think a lot of people realise now why Camilla could be the third person in that marriage, even though she is no beauty la Diana. But she is compassionate and obviously is able to love Charles more than she loves herself, so is a trusted and ultraloyal supporter. She willingly accepts that Charles is not only her husband, but her future king and so she serves her mother-in-law and will serve her husband as a kind of "first subject". Which for a monarchist is no problem at all. It's an honour.
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Old 12-30-2011, 03:16 AM
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Goodness I'll have to leave this thread I'm feeling a little sick from all this sweetness a tad of the top for me. JMO
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Old 12-30-2011, 03:32 AM
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Goodness I'll have to leave this thread I'm feeling a little sick from all this sweetness a tad of the top for me. JMO
Puzzling. People speaking well of another is a cause for 'feeling a little sick'? You are a puzzle, Lady74.
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Old 12-30-2011, 03:40 AM
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Not a puzzle but shows the sad legacy of her hero - the inability amongst a lot of her fans to move on and to forgive the past.
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Old 12-30-2011, 03:49 AM
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Puzzling. People speaking well of another is a cause for 'feeling a little sick'? You are a puzzle, Lady74.
MO too much gushing about someone they have never meet it happens a lot here

when I say Camilla might not out live the Queen I'm told I'm wishing her dead

IMO some people go way over the top
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It's a shame that people think like this, but perhaps certain people wouldn't think like that if it were Diana by Charles' side and not Camilla.
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Old 12-30-2011, 04:43 AM
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It's a shame that people thing like this, but perhaps certain people wouldn't thing like that if it were Diana by Charles' side and not Camilla.
Sorry I don't know what you mean ,was that meant for me.? If it was I haven't any idea what you mean
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Old 12-30-2011, 04:50 AM
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Sorry I don't know what you mean ,was that meant for me.? If it was I haven't any idea what you mean
It was not meant for anyone, it was a statement on the topic of Camilla and the public.
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