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Old 01-30-2008, 04:24 PM
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I don't think Charles is very often right about things. Actually one thing Charles and Diana both agreed on was the boys schooling and in Harry's case I think they both got it wrong. They both wanted the boys to avoid the heartaches that Charles had experience in the rough and tumble school Gordonstoun and avoided sending the boys to anywhere like that at all costs. What they failed to realize that a very physical but less intellectually gifted boy like Harry would likely thrive in an atmosphere like Gordonstoun much better than where he did end up and where his cousins Peter and Zara actually did end up and enjoy it immensely. For Harry I think Eton was a big mistake.
I agree Eton was a mistake for Harry academically but I don't think that was Charles first consideration. I think the main reasons Harry went to Eton was that Diana died and I don't think the princes wanted to be separated. IIRC I think they were talking about putting him at Rugby although Gordonstoun probably would have been perfect for him. IMO if Diana hadn't died, Harry would have gone to school elsewhere.
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Old 01-30-2008, 07:05 PM
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Was the problem with the nanny that she was lacking in discipline of William? I'd not read that the Queen stepped in on the nanny issue, and so that's news to me.
Yes, she had previously been nanny in a noble household with two girls and hadn't much experience with boys. People that knew her said her style of childrearing after a child misbehaved was to give them a hug rather than a discipline whereas the Royals had been brought up that if they misbehaved they'd get a spanking. She came with very good references and apparently the girls and her parents loved her but her style of childraising wasn't suited for two active and sometimes quite misbehaving boys. I remember reading about the time it happened that the Queen privately pushed the couple to let the nanny go.

There were some other issues too. Apparently this nanny was used to being treated like part of the family in her previous household and at the Waleses she felt like she was being treated as the help. So perhaps she left by mutual consent. If she was used to rather placid children, I'm afraid she had her hands full with William and Harry.
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I agree Eton was a mistake for Harry academically but I don't think that was Charles first consideration. I think the main reasons Harry went to Eton was that Diana died and I don't think the princes wanted to be separated. IIRC I think they were talking about putting him at Rugby although Gordonstoun probably would have been perfect for him. IMO if Diana hadn't died, Harry would have gone to school elsewhere.
I think Diana and Charles made the decision together for both sons to go to Eton. Its true that Diana was more of an advocate that they go to Eton since her brother had gone but Charles really had an aversion to the more physically disciplined schools that Harry would have excelled at and I don't think he would have approved one for Harry with or without Diana.

By the time they were grown and could sign up for the Army, that was different. I rather think Charles enjoyed his own Navy career and rather liked the thought that his son would go into the military but he seemed to be particularly adverse to them seeing any rough stuff when they were still pre-teens. I can understand the hesitation but I just don't think it worked for Harry.
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I see. Thank you for your detailed answer, Ysbel.

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Yes, she had previously been nanny in a noble household with two girls and hadn't much experience with boys. People that knew her said her style of childrearing after a child misbehaved was to give them a hug rather than a discipline whereas the Royals had been brought up that if they misbehaved they'd get a spanking. She came with very good references and apparently the girls and her parents loved her but her style of childraising wasn't suited for two active and sometimes quite misbehaving boys. I remember reading about the time it happened that the Queen privately pushed the couple to let the nanny go.

There were some other issues too. Apparently this nanny was used to being treated like part of the family in her previous household and at the Waleses she felt like she was being treated as the help. So perhaps she left by mutual consent. If she was used to rather placid children, I'm afraid she had her hands full with William and Harry.
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For this question, actually Diana had already gave the answer herself. I think in the interview she was very honest of her mind. I didn't think she told a lie here.


BASHIR: Why have you decided to give this interview now? Why have you decided to speak at this time?
DIANA: Because we will have been separated three years this December, and the perception that has been given of me for the last three years has been very confusing, turbulent, and in some areas I'm sure many, many people doubt me.
And I want to reassure all those people who have loved me and supported me throughout the last 15 years that I'd never let them down. That is a priority to me, along with my children.
BASHIR: And so you feel that by speaking out in this way you'll be able to reassure the people?
DIANA: Uh,uh. The people that matter to me - the man on the street, yup, because that's what matters more than anything else.
BASHIR: Some people might think - some people might interpret this as you simply taking the opportunity to get your own back on your husband.
DIANA: I don't sit here with resentment: I sit here with sadness because a marriage hasn't worked. I sit here with hope because there's a future ahead, a future for my husband, a future for myself and a future for the monarchy.
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