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| View Poll Results: When did your opinion of Diana start to change and why? | |||
| Morton book (1990) |
   
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13 | 9.15% |
| War of the Waleses (starting 1990) |
  
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10 | 7.04% |
| Squidgygate (1992) |
  
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5 | 3.52% |
| Hewitt affair (1993) |
  
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7 | 4.93% |
| Charles' interview (1994) |
  
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3 | 2.11% |
| Panorama interview (1995) |
  
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27 | 19.01% |
| Phone calls to Oliver Hoare (1994) |
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9 | 6.34% |
| Dodi al-Fayed (1997) |
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13 | 9.15% |
| Other (please explain) |
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55 | 38.73% |
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#121
12-30-2007, 05:53 PM
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#122
12-30-2007, 06:18 PM
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What exactly is borderline personality disorder? Is it like Narcissistic (spelled it wrong--apologies) personality disorder?
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#123
12-30-2007, 06:23 PM
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It's actually the fact that in a second you can go from happiness to depression (exagerating a little there but just to illustrate the situation). Going from white to black if you prefer.
Wikipedia explains it well : Quote:
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#125
12-30-2007, 06:38 PM
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Typically, Diana herself even played into it claiming to be bulimic and suicidally depressed, and although I'm sure she did have mild forms of those, it's not something she would have ever otherwise publicized. True bulimics don't have the skin, hair and teeth that Diana did. Those who are suicidally depressed don't do the fantastic job that Diana did. The purpose of the definition of any Personality Disorder was originated mainly to describe people who could not function well enough to maintain a job or support themselves. This does not describe Diana by any stretch of the imagination. I think much of her "malicious" behavior could be explained as provoked. The situation with Sarah was entirely different since for one thing, she did not have control of the family jewels -- and they'd also managed to give her a financial settlement in the negative so Sarah actually owed money. Additionally, there was no motive to take away Sarah's children, they stitched her up quite effectively in other ways. Even though the royal family did not ban any members to Siberia, they sure knew how to ban. Prince John was banned to the distant cottage, and David was banned to France -- whatever it took to effectively ban them was done.
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#126
12-30-2007, 06:53 PM
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In the Panorama Interview, Diana spoke her own truth, so that is why I don't see it as a mistake since it generated more appropriate consequences. I would have preferred for Diana to keep her mouth shut and become our discreet and silent queen and perhaps Charles would have returned eventually, but that was not to be. In the grand scheme, my preferences for what the royal family does don't matter one iota anyway. The Panorama Interview allowed Diana to speak her truth, to be released from the constraints of the royal family and to generate a ban on landmines -- so I suppose that is good and what was meant to be. The picture I included is a snap of Charles and Diana which shows how much he did love her at one time.
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#127
12-30-2007, 07:04 PM
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#128
12-30-2007, 07:12 PM
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 . I know that picture too but it was just the sense of your sentence I didn't catch, sorry  .
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#129
12-30-2007, 07:22 PM
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Also, I don't think the Royal Family was scheming to take the boys away from their mother--that would have been very bad press and I just don't think that Prince Charles is that type of person. The Queen let her keep apartments in Kensington Palace and also paid around 600,000 pounds yearly for her private offices--so had they wanted to edge her out of the lives of the boys I think she would have been kicked out of the palace and lost other perks. I don't think that Prince John was banned--I have read that the child suffered from epilepsy and also Asperger's syndrome. If he did have Asperger's syndrome, then he was accustomed to routines and such and would have had trouble if his routines were unsettled. He died at age 13, having been born in 1905. He was at Sandringham for the two years prior to his death, at the suggestion of his physicians (according to Queen Mary's bio by James Pope Hennessy). It was not a question of him being "banned" but unfortunantly it was not uncommon to send family members elsewhere if they had odd beahviors. We can't look at it with the knowledge we have now, in 2007, and judge what happened in 1917. I must admit, I find Prince John to be fascinating and there was even a mini-series on him entitled The Lost Prince. As for David being banned to France, I'm not sure I know enough about that to effectively disagree, but I cannot really blame King George VI for the decision to not let him return to England. I do know that a lot of different things played into that decision, though.
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#130
12-30-2007, 07:41 PM
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#131
12-30-2007, 07:51 PM
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12-30-2007, 07:56 PM
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That interview didn't change my opinion of Diana but it did surprise me for two things. I was astounded that she claimed that she didn't want a divorce; I couldn't fathom being willing to do an interview like that and not wanting a divorce. I suspected that she in fact wanted a divorce but she didn't want to admit it. Or rather she wanted the divorce and then wanted to be able to claim that the Royal Family forced her into a divorce. This kind of cunning I cannot blame on a mental illness. I mean its possible to be mentally ill and paranoid but to be mentally ill and that calculating does not sound right. But simply because one has post partum depression and bulimia doesn't make one mentally ill I think. Mentally troubled but one should still be able to be responsible for their actions.
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#133
12-30-2007, 07:58 PM
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The thing is, any mental illness such as BP or BPD would have been so obvious that it wouldn't have been possible to keep it a secret. I mean, people know I've got BP because it shows in my everyday life. For example, sometimes I blank people I know when I pass them in the street because I don't feel I want to talk to anyone and so I just ignore them. But they know thats what I do and that I dont really mean it. Unless Diana was zonked out on meds, I can't see her keeping her illness under wraps.
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12-30-2007, 08:00 PM
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I don't remember the exact wording but if I run across the picture again, I'll post it. I think it was after the marriage though since I vaguely remember William and Harry as toddlers in the picture.
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#135
12-30-2007, 08:01 PM
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