When did your opinion of Diana change and why?

[BeatrixFan]

No. Whether Betty likes you or not, she can't exile you. You can be extradited but thats something altogether different.

[skhaynie]

Originally Posted by BeatrixFan

No. Whether Betty likes you or not, she can't exile you. You can be extradited but thats something altogether different.

But they can make you feel unwelcome or unwanted back in the country... (the Duke and Duchess of Windsor come to mind!) (not to make fun of anyone's situation here)

[Skydragon]

Originally Posted by zhontella

No internet link, but I did give you a reference to the hard copy.

There is absolutely nothing listed on the Mirror archive site, nor do I remember anything in the Sunday Mirror earlies that Sunday that tie in. Perhaps you can scan the copy you have.

No doubt the MI6 follows all sorts of different rules.

MI6 reports directly to the cabinet/prime minister, they are their masters.

The British Press had been making fun of Diana for many years. They were just starting to come around to seeing her more as a great humanitarian -- she was on her way to becoming the next Mother Teresa of Calcutta, no I mean of the Middle East somewhere.

The UK press here had only just started to make fun of her, mainly for the amount of holidays she had taken and this in the Observer newspapers satirical column entitled MRS. BLAIR’S DIARY: - "It always amazes me that the press picks up on [what Diana says] as if it were compelling genius insight of Aristotelian wisdom and Shavian wit, as opposed to the twitterings of a woman who, if her IQ were five points lower, would have to be watered daily." Under the headline IF HER IQ WERE ANY LOWER, SHE’D NEED DAILY WATERING.

[Skydragon]

Originally Posted by BeatrixFan

No. Whether Betty likes you or not, she can't exile you. You can be extradited but thats something altogether different.

You can be banned though can't you? But that is a government 'thing'.

[BeatrixFan]

I don't think so. If you've done something THAT bad then you're in prison.

[Skydragon]

Originally Posted by BeatrixFan

I don't think so. If you've done something THAT bad then you're in prison.

Ahhhh.

[Elspeth]

Originally Posted by georgiea

I never knew this article came out. Well maybe Mr. al Fayed is right all these years about his conspiracy theories of the accident. I am glad he is getting this inquest.

Since the Sunday Mirror is one of the tabloid papers, unless this article was sourced to an authoritative named individual, I don't know that it's necessary to take it all that seriously. Some of these papers have printed the most preposterous nonsense sourced to "a close friend of the royal family" or "sources close to the royal family" and none of us know if it's gospel truth or a tissue of lies.

[Elspeth]

Originally Posted by BeatrixFan

No. Whether Betty likes you or not, she can't exile you. You can be extradited but thats something altogether different.

As the Duke of Windsor found, if a financial settlement can be made formally or informally contingent on staying out of the country, the Queen can effectively banish someone who depends on that financial settlement from the royal family.

[jcbcode99]

Originally Posted by zhontella

The British Press had been making fun of Diana for many years. They were just starting to come around to seeing her more as a great humanitarian -- she was on her way to becoming the next Mother Teresa of Calcutta, no I mean of the Middle East somewhere.

Diana as the next Mother Teresa or a great humanitarian? I'm not so sure about that comparison although, in an interview she gave she did say that she had always felt that she was "destined for greatness" but I think to her that meant being Queen (and like others, while I found the tricycle story amusing I'm not sure it is true).

But, I will say this--I do like how the boys followed her lead (regarding land mines) and chose to do some serious work during their gap year (unlike their cousin Princess Bea).

[BeatrixFan]

Originally Posted by jcbcode99

Diana as the next Mother Teresa or a great humanitarian? I'm not so sure about that comparison although, in an interview she gave she did say that she had always felt that she was "destined for greatness" but I think to her that meant being Queen (and like others, while I found the tricycle story amusing I'm not sure it is true).

But, I will say this--I do like how the boys followed her lead (regarding land mines) and chose to do some serious work during their gap year (unlike their cousin Princess Bea).

Yeah but the boys decided to do serious work in their gap year and bugger all following it.

[diamondBrg]

I would like to inquire about Prince Andrew's two daughters. When I go on the official Monarchy website, it says under his portion that his daughters do NOT undertake official duties?

Are they compensated with taxpayer money in some way, some verifiable way?

If not, WHAT BUSINESS is it of anyone, anywhere what those two young ladies do or do not do at any point in time?

Are the people of the UK under the impression that the entire Royal Family is their servant?

[ghost_night554]

Originally Posted by Claire

Other as well.

I thought Diana was genuine in the beginning but by the panarama interview, i thought it was a giant act. Too much eye battering and looking to the side. Too rehearst. But I saw where she was coming from - revenge and yes bad marriage can happen to everyone.
A few years later and I was helping out with the media. We expected a lot of foreign media for the visit of Diana - we possibly got much more which is why I was drafted in.
A lot of the media had actually been personally invited by Diana herself, who promised them exclusive pics and such. The whole event was a whole organisation mess
Diana was adament to poses with as many children at the hospital as possible, for the benefit of the hospital she explained. They didn't understand who she was and why she was there. She simply came in posed with the kids and some of the adults, later meet with some of the support staff and left. I was told later that she was unhappy with some of the kids as they didn't look ill enough for the pic. A lot of things just seemed wrong. One of them was that in the middle of the visit she left so that her stylist could redo her hair so that is could look good for the photos. Most of the visit was private, instead Diana allowed the press in without the permission of the press. She also told the press that she was visiting AIDS orphans and people affected by AIDS. Which caused a problem as a politician's wife had been in there for heart problems and the South African tabloids ran with stories about both of them having AIDS.
The people at the hospital felt terribly used. They had hoped that Diana's visit would encourage foreign countries and investors to donate equipment to the hospital, instead it had became Diana's three ringed PR circus. She got her front page, the press got their headlines - the hospital is still waiting for their money.

I don't understand was this a person experience of yours or did this come from the media? I don't remember reading anything about this event.

Anyways my opinion of Diana has never really changed, I mean yes she had her problems she made her mistakes and I think alot of that she probably later regret, but we're all human and so was she, so I've always thought of her as a lovely woman who obviously as all of us made mistakes in her life.

[BeatrixFan]

Originally Posted by diamondBrg

I would like to inquire about Prince Andrew's two daughters. When I go on the official Monarchy website, it says under his portion that his daughters do NOT undertake official duties?

Are they compensated with taxpayer money in some way, some verifiable way?

If not, WHAT BUSINESS is it of anyone, anywhere what those two young ladies do or do not do at any point in time?

Are the people of the UK under the impression that the entire Royal Family is their servant?

Yes. Because to put it bluntly - they are. Beatrice and Eugenie live the life they do because of our money and therefore, if they won't do official duties then they have to get a real job - neither of them have a real job. If however, they take up Royal duties soon and earn their keep, then the criticism won't go away but they could earn themselves a Princess Anne like reputation which goes down well with we serfs.

[Elspeth]

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