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Old 07-13-2014, 08:15 PM
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When their engagement was announced, People magazine in the US didn't even do a cover story, just a small two page spread that had one full page of a large black-and-white picture of the engagement day and one page of text. The headline called her a "shy teacher named Diana Spencer". The infamous black strapless dress caused an uproar of course, and then her first daytime engagement charmed the public and the rest is history...
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Old 07-13-2014, 08:29 PM
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This celebrification of Diana started slowly and by the mid 1980's, it was full swing. It seemed to cool a bit a couple of years before her death. After her death, it seemed like it really took off.
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Old 07-13-2014, 09:43 PM
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I have no idea when it started. About the time of her marriage and it ended with her death. After death, here, they were the same uninteresting people they were before. Very few care or know who any of them are. Kate and William and Harry the exception.
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Old 07-14-2014, 09:53 AM
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Prince Charles was one of the most eligible bachelors in the world--if not THE most eligible bachelor. His pre-Diana relationships regularly made the society pages around the world. He was often featured in tabloids and teen magazines (where I remember reading about him in my early teens). Everyone knew who Charles was even before he married Diana. I wasn't even a teenager, but I remember news stories about his investiture as Prince of Wales. Below are links to Time magazine covers in 1969 and 1978. At this time, Time was the most widely read magazine in the world. TIME Magazine Cover: Prince Charles - May 15, 1978 - Prince Charles - Royalty - Great Britain TIME Magazine Cover: Prince Charles - June 27, 1969 - Prince Charles - Royalty - Great Britain

No matter who he married, Prince Charles's wedding would have been watched by hundreds of millions of people. The British do pomp and ceremony very well. Diana's personal charisma and charmed certainly enhanced interest and probably added a hundred million or so viewers.

Diana's superstar status began shortly before the formal engagement. There had been several stories about her in the U.S. press before the engagement. She was very popular.
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Old 07-16-2014, 03:56 PM
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I saw the engagement news on the t.v. in a hospital solarium. My immediate thought was, "Hmmmm. That's interesting." I made clippings and watched the wedding of course, but I don't think I really developed an interest in following her until I saw the news reports of the Wales' trip to, um, Wales and saw how she interacted with people. Then there was the excitement of Diana's pregnancy with William and the Royal Tours to Australia and New Zealand and Canada (starting in my home province of Nova Scotia). After that, I was completely and utterly hooked and started buying overseas editions of London papers to get pictures as well as buying souvenir editions and regular Royal magazines and books. Needless to say, I acquired quite a collection. I have one collector plate and two mugs, but the rest of my gatherings are in print. I'm not a person to follow celebrities normally, but my interest in Diana was different because I expected that she'd be the Queen Consort someday. I became more interested in constitutional monarchy as a whole and still retain that interest and point of view and now understand the damage that Diana did. It was the Panorama intervew that really changed my view of her; because up to that point, her affair with Hewitt wasn't acknowledged and deniability was possible. I'll saw this for Martin Bashir: He was talented enough as an interviewer to draw out some of the darker parts of Diana's personality. When I see the coverage of the Duchess of Cambridge now, I can see how the approach taken to Diana by the media and the celebrity 'machine' has affected the next generation. Outside of official sources and high-brow publications, she's referred to as Kate Middleton and her constitutional role isn't even referenced most of the time. It saddens me, because there's so much more to the Duchess than her clothes, hair, and make-up.
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How my infatuation with Diana began

Hi I fell madly "in love" with Diana last year I started writing fan fiction about her out of boredom and wanting to write something different than my usual pretend soapy scripts i showed it to everyone at my creative writing class and they wanted more and more stories!

Now admittedly i don't really remember Diana too much as i was only 5 years old when she died - though in about 1994 or 5 (or 6??) my mum was waiting at traffic lights after dropping me and my big sisters at our Dad's place when who should pull up beside her but DIANA! My mum was so excited especially since Diana waved and smiled at her!

I spent a lot of time ion hospital as a kid what with my cerebral palsy and heart condition and croupe (but somehow missed her visiting on her Australia tours! *shrugs*) I often wonder if she would have visited me had she not died and i'd been in during a tour that's not creepy right?.....right?!
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Old 01-20-2016, 09:29 AM
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I think the celebrity aspect probably came with the tour of Wales very soon after Diana and Charles's marriage. The British public was enchanted with her during the engagement and the media seemed to be the same. It was a pre-Internet age, of course, and no cell phones really.

I can remember people saying how lovely they thought she was then. That fairytale wedding (the first of a Prince of Wales for almost 120 years) led to even more media attention. However, I do think it was in Wales that members of the public began calling out to her, gave her bouquets, wanted her to come over to their side of the street, etc.
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^^^I agree with you Curryong. I recall the numerous magazine covers and television reports in the U.S. during that time period.
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Old 01-21-2016, 12:25 AM
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Then there was the appearance at the State Opening of Parliament, the enchanting pictures taken at the Gonzaga exhibition, and the announcement of the pregnancy with William. There seemed to be non-stop coverage of Diana during those few months, and she was lovely.
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Old 01-21-2016, 08:34 PM
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To the best of my recollection The Prince of Wales was regarded as quite a catch. His marriage to whomever would have been a big deal historically and I don't believe anyone could have predicted in the early days that Lady Diana Spencer would blossom in the way she did. I also believe it is difficult for some to remember but The late Princess of Wales was out alot and from very early on in her royal career. She was part of some of our daily lives for decades.
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Old 01-21-2016, 08:43 PM
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"celebrification" of the Royals...

IMO when the sons of George III were men behaving badly and brought the BRF into disrepute. Georgian cartoons and pamphlets ridiculed the entire family.

Victoria steadied the ship but her 2 eldest sons also behaved badly. One died and Edward (VII) ended up loved.

Edward VIII preferred role was one of celebrity - less taxing than being king.

And the existing BRF became seen by some as celebrities when HMQ, encouraged by PRince Philip, let the cameras into their private life.

After that, they were all seen as fair game - same as celebrities the world over.

Diana was the icing on the cake.
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Old 01-21-2016, 10:30 PM
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It is a Catch 22 situation though, isn't it? Do you remove yourself and family completely from the public gaze, except for carefully-staged photo opportunities like past royals, and risk being seen as remote and out of touch or show yourselves as human beings with the same foibles as everyone else, in the process possibly making the Royal family less respected? I do think the Queen and Prince made the right choice in allowing the family to be filmed in the 1960's.

During Diana's lifetime the public became greedy for every detail of her life to be known. The media provided it, feeding the fairytale which was not the truth. It was the War of the Wales, which unfortunately the media pushed to the limits, that IMO tore a rent in the BRF mystique. People became more cynical about what PR they were being fed.

This was followed by the Internet Age, Twitter and Royal forums. After all, if people are sitting anonymously in front of a computer minutely examining a royal's marriage, work ethic, mothering/fathering skills, dress sense, demeanour etc., (just as they do with say the Beckhams or the Kadashiens) that's not doing much for the Royal family concerned or the institution of monarchy, IMO. It does bring it down to a celebrity-like level, I believe. Not that there's much that can be done about it. It's just part of modern life.
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Old 01-22-2016, 10:15 PM
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When I look back at her work schedule in the first couple of years, she wasn't in the public all that much; and when she was, she was usually with Prince Charles. At the time, she seemed to be very visible, but I think that's because of all the publications that were out. She cancelled occasions during her first pregnancy with William due to her morning sickness, which was called severe at he time. Then, when she was heavily pregnant, there were several high-profile appearances which were much publicized. After William was born, there was the long vacation at Balmoral, and then there was the shock of her slim form when she reappeared late in the fall.

Oh yes, Prince Charles was considered quite a catch indeed. He really was considered the world's most eligible bachelor. It's difficult to imagine, now that he'll be 70 in less than three years time!




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To the best of my recollection The Prince of Wales was regarded as quite a catch. His marriage to whomever would have been a big deal historically and I don't believe anyone could have predicted in the early days that Lady Diana Spencer would blossom in the way she did. I also believe it is difficult for some to remember but The late Princess of Wales was out alot and from very early on in her royal career. She was part of some of our daily lives for decades.
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I believe that HRH The Princess of Wales as she was then styled, from her earliest days in the Royal Family did alot of background work, lunches, private visits etc. I think in many ways that it is sad that so much of The Prince of Wales work, which has been incredible gets overlooked and his private life is the main object of interest to most.
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Yes, I think publicly they made a very good team and were also good parents. It's just a great shame the private side didn't work out.

Of course Diana became pregnant almost immediately and wasn't terribly well to boot. There were stories that she was absolutely terrified of meeting and greeting the large crowds that gathered to see her in the months following her wedding.

She conquered that however, and as far as people could judge she looked happy, glowing, cheerful, at ease, when meeting people. I always think she looked like a little peach in those very early months, and the camera just loved her, even in the rather unflattering clothing of her early married days. I can remember being startled years later when photos revealed how extremely thin she'd become.
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Old 01-23-2016, 09:50 AM
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Since Andrew Morton's book : Diana her true Story .
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Old 01-23-2016, 02:52 PM
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Once it was known that she and Prince Charles were engaged, then it started a little slow but was full blown by the time they got married.
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There were a few "stages" the courtship/engagement was the beginning, but part of that was due to being yet another suitor for PC, but then she took it and ran, those early pictures she just draws you in, like Lord Attenborough said in his documentary, people were taken with her immediately, with young boys/men going ga-ga over her at the start. (I know for me it was luv at first sight in Nov 1980, in her blue sweater and skirt one night walking by the TV during the evening news).

Then it built until the 1983 tours where it went ballistic, that was really the "start" IMO of it, the US tour was the "Dynasty Di" era. That's where the clothes and jewels took off, and women started to be the main fans of her in broad terms.

In a documentary on that time theres a bittersweet comment now,by two girls waiting for her to appear in Washington along the lines of "Shes so thin thats sick, I wish that was me" little did we know then the reason why...

Then the "War of the Wales" was a more infamous, period, and lastly the separation and removal of her guards started the final phase where it was paparazzi overload and finally her humanitarian projects.

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When really thinking about it, the era of Di Mania came about at the same time the Internet was expanding, cell phones were starting to become a reality for the average person's use and news reporting on conflicts in Irwere inundated from all angles. The public felt they really knew her and when she tragically died, suffered from shell shock which I believe caused mass hysteria to some degree.

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Gosh I'd have to say no. Diana died before the internet was really big. Cell phones yes but no the internet. and I think that really from the begining of her dating C and marrying him, she was instantly popular - it was just something about her..
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Yes, internet wasn't really considered mainstream until 1998/99. Heck when she died, majority of cell phones were massive with big antenas, they started shrinking around the time she died. Definitely not the 'cell phone' era now where people text and take photos and such.
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