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Old 09-13-2005, 12:02 PM
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why are u all so sure Henry Paul was drunk? Would have dodi not noticed? many witnesses who were with him be4e he was to drive the car said he had not drunk at all.
There is a book called "The Day That Diana Died" by Christopher Anderson. It explains in great detail what happened that day.
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Old 09-13-2005, 12:34 PM
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I watched Oprah today, and the first doctor on the scene of the accident did an interview and he said that when he got to them Trevor was screaming in pain and the doctor was glad because that meant he was responding. However, he said that Diana was moaning, and she looked beautiful he said that her face was pale and she was not covered in blood.
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I missed Oprah! I saw a commercial for the show last week and thought to myself I had to watch it. I completely forgot!:( Was it good?
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Oprah was interesting. The guy who checked in the September 11, hijackers said that when he saw the leader guy Muhammad Atta (sp??) he immediately knew they were terrorists, but then he thought no it is just an Arab, and he convinced himself that he was paranoid.

Other than what I mentioned earlier, The Diana story was that the doctor got to the car, he heard Trevor screaming, Diana was faced away from him, so he turned her around and gave her oxygen. She was moaning, but did not say that she was pregnant (which was a rumor floating around). He said that photographers were taking photos and all he really see were hundreds of flashes (from the cameras)

the rest of the show, was a women who won million dollar recipe contest, the founders of banana republic, and the women who first discovered the Harry Potter and got JK Rowling a publisher.

Oprah focused mainly on the airport guy, the Diana story was pretty short, because the doctor was not there it was just a taped piece.
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Old 09-13-2005, 06:25 PM
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I think if someone was drunk they wouldn't have to tell you. Any sober person can see it for themselves. Would you let someone like that drive your car?
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Old 09-13-2005, 06:46 PM
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James, I know one person (alcoholic) who manages to fool people most of the time.

I guess it depends on whom you've seen in that state.
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I agree. However, according to the level of alcohol and medication which was in Henri Paul's blood, he would barely have been able to stand let alone drive.
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Old 09-13-2005, 10:23 PM
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That was probably why Trevor was fired from Al Fyad's (sp?) team of security. It seems that it would have been Travor's job as a bodygaurd to make sure that it was safe. I guess they were in such a hurry that he didn't take the time.
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Old 09-13-2005, 11:31 PM
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That was probably why Trevor was fired from Al Fyad's (sp?) team of security. It seems that it would have been Travor's job as a bodygaurd to make sure that it was safe. I guess they were in such a hurry that he didn't take the time.
i dont think so! Mr.Fayeds would give him fired! but he never drunk! who told you!

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Old 09-13-2005, 11:45 PM
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Oh I am sorry he wasn't fired, he quit. According to A friend of Rees-Jones he quit his job because he "felt pressured to remember the events in a way in which they might not necessarily have happened."

Paul's blood was three times higher than the level at which one is considered to be drunk under French law. Later tests confirmed that Paul had been in the midst of a bout of "moderate chronic alcoholism for at least a week," and that his blood also contained the antidepressant Prozac and tiapride, a drug used to combat alcoholism.

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/1998/08/...investigation/

Does anyone know if he sued Al Fyed for his injuries during the crash, I know there were rumors of he was going to sue.
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Hey I found an excerpt from his book "The Bodyguard's Story"

http://www.twbookmark.com/books/13/0...cerpt9769.html
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I'm suspicious....

I may be wrong, but I've always been suspicious of Trevor R. J. - since that fateful day, why , being him a b/gd ,did he wear the seat- belt just be4e entering the tunnel ? what for did Al Fayed fire him, if he was faultless... if he had been without a seat- belt, he could have turned on the back where Di was, take her with his arms ,so she would not bang her head and her chest...... they would be both alive, if he had done so, after all, he was Dodi's b/gd, he could not help dodi, but he could help Diana, and maybe save her life, and this thing that he doesn't remember, well, it can be for a while after the crash, not after 8 years.... I do believe he had been paid by The UK Secret Services, IMOH, of course, maybe he had to drug the driver, whoever he was, or something else, he knew the car was gonna crash, that's why he wore the seat- belt, when the car entered the Alma Tunnel-
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Old 09-14-2005, 02:50 AM
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Oh I am sorry he wasn't fired, he quit. According to A friend of Rees-Jones he quit his job because he "felt pressured to remember the events in a way in which they might not necessarily have happened."

Paul's blood was three times higher than the level at which one is considered to be drunk under French law. Later tests confirmed that Paul had been in the midst of a bout of "moderate chronic alcoholism for at least a week," and that his blood also contained the antidepressant Prozac and tiapride, a drug used to combat alcoholism.

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/1998/08/...investigation/

Does anyone know if he sued Al Fyed for his injuries during the crash, I know there were rumors of he was going to sue.

I have been on Prozac for years, it's an anti- depressant, and it makes you more alert than ever......a bit like amphetamines.
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Which witnesses said he hadn't drunk? The bodyguard said he saw him drinking but that Paul said it was a soft drink. And even if it wasn't, what else would Paul tell the bodyguards? "Oh, yes, I'm drinking pastis right on top of taking anti-depressants, but don't worry, I'm fine to drive an unfamiliar car in the dark with half the world's paparazzi on my tail"?

well, he was at a bar, with friends, when Dodi called him, I read what his own friends, who were with him, said at the time, can't remember where did I read about it, that was 8 years ago..... , they said that he had not been drinking, it seems he had been clean for a while, he was trying to beat alcholism- anyway, he was not easily drunk,- what do we know about the car, was it ok, don't believe in an English inquest, and France, well, they would never hurt in any way The British RF. I do think that it had to be Henry Paul the 1 to whom giving all the fault, and of course also M. Al Fayed.
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I may be wrong, but I've always been suspicious of Trevor R. J. - if he had been without a seat- belt, he could have turned on the back where Di was, take her with his arms ,so she would not bang her head and her chest...... they would be both alive.... I do believe he had been paid by The UK Secret Services, IMOH, of course, maybe he had to drug the driver, whoever he was, or something else, he knew the car was gonna crash, that's why he wore the seat- belt..
Let me get this straight... a car is speeding at 100 kmh-plus into a concrete pillar, and the front-seat passenger is supposed to turn around and take the back-seat passenger "with his arms" and thereby save them both?

But before that, the bodyguard drugs the driver, the British Secret Service (or Trevor himself) somehow arranges for the car to crash at high speed into a concrete pillar, thereby killing the other three occupants, but at the same time ensuring he doesn't die (he's just smashed to pieces) because he is wearing a seat-belt?

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Old 09-14-2005, 06:49 AM
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Let me get this straight... a car is speeding at 100 kmh-plus into a concrete pillar, and the front-seat passenger is supposed to turn around and take the back-seat passenger "with his arms" and thereby save them both?

But before that, the bodyguard drugs the driver, the British Secret Service (or Trevor himself) somehow arranges for the car to crash at high speed into a concrete pillar, thereby killing the other three occupants, but at the same time ensuring he doesn't die (he's just smashed to pieces) because he is wearing a seat-belt?

Sorry, but "Oh please!"
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you wrote actually what I was thinking!!!!
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Old 09-14-2005, 09:19 AM
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Oprah was interesting. The guy who checked in the September 11, hijackers said that when he saw the leader guy Muhammad Atta (sp??) he immediately knew they were terrorists, but then he thought no it is just an Arab, and he convinced himself that he was paranoid.

Other than what I mentioned earlier, The Diana story was that the doctor got to the car, he heard Trevor screaming, Diana was faced away from him, so he turned her around and gave her oxygen. She was moaning, but did not say that she was pregnant (which was a rumor floating around). He said that photographers were taking photos and all he really see were hundreds of flashes (from the cameras)

the rest of the show, was a women who won million dollar recipe contest, the founders of banana republic, and the women who first discovered the Harry Potter and got JK Rowling a publisher.

Oprah focused mainly on the airport guy, the Diana story was pretty short, because the doctor was not there it was just a taped piece.
Thanks for filling me in. I'm sorry I missed it. I'm sure they'll be a repeat sometime.
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Let me get this straight... a car is speeding at 100 kmh-plus into a concrete pillar, and the front-seat passenger is supposed to turn around and take the back-seat passenger "with his arms" and thereby save them both?

But before that, the bodyguard drugs the driver, the British Secret Service (or Trevor himself) somehow arranges for the car to crash at high speed into a concrete pillar, thereby killing the other three occupants, but at the same time ensuring he doesn't die (he's just smashed to pieces) because he is wearing a seat-belt?

Sorry, but "Oh please!"
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I must concur with you Warren. There is still no concrete proof of a conspiracy. Diana died in a fatal car accident. While I do not put anything past the MI5, there is no evidence to support the claim at this time. Trevor Rees-Jones doing the dirty work of the British Secret Services and going through that horrific crash?? Oh come on, give me a break!! The man is not a kamikaze war pilot for Japan!
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Have to agree with Warren and sm1939. If TRJ recognized they were in a dangerous position, how could he have simultaneously lept into the back seat and grabbed Diana??

And if he had managed that feat, would it have been possible for him to hang onto her? Remember, parents are advised not to hang onto their babies in cars because the force of the impact may tear the babies out of their arms (and it's probably easier to hang onto a baby versus the weight of an adult woman).

I think the problem here is that we don't wish to believe that something so mundane and stupid could have caused Diana's death.
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I may be wrong, but I've always been suspicious of Trevor R. J. - since that fateful day, why , being him a b/gd ,did he wear the seat- belt just be4e entering the tunnel ? what for did Al Fayed fire him, if he was faultless... if he had been without a seat- belt, he could have turned on the back where Di was, take her with his arms ,so she would not bang her head and her chest...... they would be both alive, if he had done so, after all, he was Dodi's b/gd, he could not help dodi, but he could help Diana, and maybe save her life, and this thing that he doesn't remember, well, it can be for a while after the crash, not after 8 years.... I do believe he had been paid by The UK Secret Services, IMOH, of course, maybe he had to drug the driver, whoever he was, or something else, he knew the car was gonna crash, that's why he wore the seat- belt, when the car entered the Alma Tunnel-
i told harry's polo shirt about that! and i dont think Trevor would fire from him and he got quit because of drunk almost killed him! and he had huge of scars! if you have read of articles from harry's polo shirt i knew it! i dont think Dodi's dad would fire to Trevor no! its not his fault its driver's fault you know that!

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I think the problem, Sara, is that Mr. Al Fayed wanted Trevor to say that Trevor thought there was a conspiracy. And Trevor wouldn't do it. And then Mr. Al Fayed began to believe that Trevor was involved in the conspiracy.

Mr. Al Fayed will never believe that it was just a tragic accident.
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