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12-30-2010, 05:47 PM
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....We will never really know what happened in those first 5 years of marriage that made it go from promise to purgatory. What is clear after one trawls through all the pictures, video, interviews and documentaries (and I am by no means done!) - is that it was not as Diana painted later because she said it first. It could not have been. Much of what she said winds up not making coherent sense, given the contradictions. What was true was that she was too young in so many kinds of ways, inexperienced and with so few inner resources.
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Agreed Tyger. Princess Diana and Prince Charles would still be married if Diana was no too young and could have been help with medication. This would have been the better ending to the Wales marriage and children.
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12-30-2010, 06:10 PM
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We all know Diana, Princess of Wales' was mentally sick.
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Speak for yourself please. Dr Neville Marks, renowned psychiatrist said that she was not mentally ill, that no one with her amazing work load was in the least bit sick. He knew her personally. She accomplished more good in her short life time than many people who lived decades longer. Her Memorial Fund is still helping millions.
Some fragments of psychobabble scribbled in desperation by Penny Junor is nothing in the way of a medical diagnosis.
She was said to be imaginin g that her husband was having an affair with Mrs Parker Bowles. The CamillaGate tape proved her to be absolutely spot on.
The Queen's own biographer spoke out on that topic, thus 'Three in the marriage' from the Panorama interview:
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12-30-2010, 06:14 PM
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The Camillagate conversation was made in the very late 80s or the early 90s. Charles acknowledged that he had an affair starting in about 1986. So the Camillagate tape is not proof that he was cheating with Camilla from 1981 on.
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She was said to be imaginin g that her husband was having an affair with Mrs Parker Bowles. The CamillaGate tape proved her to be absolutely spot on.
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12-31-2010, 12:41 PM
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How do you know his emotions were with someone else? The only person who would know that is Charles.
Diana might have believed that but unless Charles was sitting there saying 'I wish I was watching this with Camilla' it was simply in Diana's head.
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'No matter what happens, I will always love you.' Charles to camilla on the phone overheard by his wife. So one or two other people knew besides Charles. Not to mention all of his friends that he was asking to borrow a bedroom from. From their own lips on the Camillagate tape.
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12-31-2010, 04:19 PM
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I seriously doubt Diana would have ever agreed to the Panorama interview had Charles not spoken of his infidelity to her and possible divorce on another international interview. Her interview was in essence, a reply to his, of laying the rest of the cards on the table. He unwisely opened the Pandora's box and Panorama was the direct result of Charles saying that he didn't see a divorce as being detrimental to his becoming king. Diana replied on Panorama that perhaps he wasn't exactly suited for the role but that William definitely was.
Prince Charles, in TV Documentary, Admits to Infidelity - Biography - NYTimes.com
In answer to Giorgiea, Diana was very happy and healthy when she died.
As her brother said at the Abbey:
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I would like to end by thanking God for the small mercies he has shown us at this dreadful time. For taking Diana at her most beautiful and radiant and when she had joy in her private life.
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In one of my desk drawers are pictures of Diana, both her sons and Emad Al Fayed happily frolicking in the water off the Jonikal. In her last two days on earth, she and her sister Lady Sarah were having great fun in planning Prince Harry's 12th birthday party via telephone. Her last errand for Lady Sarah was to find a Play Station for Harry in London because none was available in Paris.
I don't believe she would have ever agreed to share Charles with Mrs. PB so I don't think she would have remained married to Charles at all.
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12-31-2010, 06:18 PM
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At some point the couple would have divorced. Because their marriage had basically broken down and was at the point of no return (both of them have basically said this), it was inevitable that at some point a divorce would occur. They clearly were not happy together and people outside of royal circles or their inner circle saw this. I remember seeing them when they visited King Juan Carlos of Spain. Prince Charles was sitting in one chair, Princess Diana in another. They both looked like they didn't want to be in the same room with each other. While this wasn't so evident in Prince Charles, the body language of Princess Diana spoke volumes. People took notice.
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12-31-2010, 07:00 PM
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I seriously doubt Diana would have ever agreed to the Panorama interview had Charles not spoken of his infidelity to her and possible divorce on another international interview. Her interview was in essence, a reply to his, of laying the rest of the cards on the table. He unwisely opened the Pandora's box and Panorama was the direct result of Charles saying that he didn't see a divorce as being detrimental to his becoming king. Diana replied on Panorama that perhaps he wasn't exactly suited for the role but that William definitely was.
Prince Charles, in TV Documentary, Admits to Infidelity - Biography - NYTimes.com
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Yes, Marie of The Sea. Diana, Princess of Wales set the record straight. But I do think from listening to her, watching her, her eye makeup made me want to hug her and take her to a doctor. To me Princess Diana seemed to be crying out for help and being a little vindictive. I love Princess Diana with warts and all. I still think if the couple waited for children and Diana got help from medication their marriage would have survived.
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In answer to Giorgiea, Diana was very happy and healthy when she died.
As her brother said at the Abbey:
In one of my desk drawers are pictures of Diana, both her sons and Emad Al Fayed happily frolicking in the water off the Jonikal. In her last two days on earth, she and her sister Lady Sarah were having great fun in planning Prince Harry's 12th birthday party via telephone. Her last errand for Lady Sarah was to find a Play Station for Harry in London because none was available in Paris.
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Yes, Diana, Princess of Wales was at her high point, both psychically and mentally, one year after her divorce. After the breakdown of the marriage in the late 80's she lived a life of personal loneliness and false relationships with cads and married men. Only Doctor Khan was worthy of her and he would not marry her. I have hear that Diana was fighting with Prince William over Dodi and that Princess Diana was upset with Prince Charles' giving Camilla a big 50 birthday party. I read that Diana got photos of herself in the British newspapers in a animal print bikini to out shine Camilla's big day. If this is true, was Diana, Princess of Wales really happy with her divorce and her love of Prince Charles?
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I don't believe she would have ever agreed to share Charles with Mrs. PB so I don't think she would have remained married to Charles at all.
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I guess to all out there we have to disagree to agree about the marriage. I being a Diana fan and know personally about how medicine helps a person through tough situations- I think Diana and Charles would be married now as loving companions that would be celebrating their 30th wedding anniversary and their first borne son's marriage.
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