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Old 03-01-2017, 07:40 PM
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I remember all the talk a couple of years after Diana's death that the Royal Family would try to "erase Diana from history." It hasn't happened. I didn't think that it would.

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Old 03-02-2017, 03:35 PM
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I don't think they exactly bust a gut to keep her memory alive though.
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Old 03-02-2017, 04:42 PM
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I don't think they exactly bust a gut to keep her memory alive though.
Although Diana still sells to a certain audience, the honest truth is that she has been dead for twenty years and there just isn't any real point. Her 'achievements' were actually pretty nebulous and in many cases didn't outlast her or were not hers in the first place.

Why do we need to in the first place? Yes she was an important figure in popular culture and she is for good or ill the mother of the man who will be king. William and Harry, along with I hope her birth family all commerate her, but given that these often become an excuse to flay Charles and Camilla alive in public (remember the 2007 memorial - what the press did to Camilla over that was really immature and vile), I can see why the RF may not be keen to relive one of their more traumatic experiences. We dont have commerations of the abdication so why this?

I don't think its incumbent on either the RF or the British Goverment to lead any sort of public memorial - if members of the public want to than that's fine. Besides if Theresa May was involved i get the feeling that she would try and use any commerations to boost the governments popularity a la Blair in 1997. I don't think W&H or the RF at large would approve of that.

However, it is only March, maybe there'll be commerations closer to the actual anniversary in August/September.
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Old 03-02-2017, 05:07 PM
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I remember all the talk a couple of years after Diana's death that the Royal Family would try to "erase Diana from history." It hasn't happened. I didn't think that it would.
I can't stand it when people go on about the RF "Trying to write Diana out of history" as its just wrong and the fact we're still discussing her on our cozy little corner of the internet suggests to me that if that was their aim, they've done a pretty bad job of it. This isn't Ancient Rome or the USSR under Stalin. Damnatio Memoriae isn't possible and somthing as nebulous and complex as the "Diana Phenomenon" can't be judged as being wholly good or wholly bad and thus deserving of commerations on that basis. Such talk was always paranoid and silly, the Queen probably didn't have anything more to say as there wasn't anything more to say. Silence isn't always tacit disapproval - sometimes its because they genuinely don't know what to say. But it interesting as it meant that Diana could be co-opted by those who wanted to critique the RF and the monarchy as an institution (I think I may have said this before) as the RF esp Charles lost control of the media narrative - somthing Diana herself made happen while she was still alive. I think this was to some extent a mistake as it allowed for their critics to keep peddling mud about them using the late Diana as a means to do so.

Or maybe I've been co-opted by the lizard people - make up your own minds....
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Old 03-02-2017, 05:56 PM
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If you are going to shape shift, Laurels, you couldn't sun yourself as a lizard on a sunny rock in Jamaica could you, and give us a report on a certain wedding, a certain guest...? Only if you have the time of course!
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Old 03-03-2017, 02:45 AM
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I remember all the talk a couple of years after Diana's death that the Royal Family would try to "erase Diana from history." It hasn't happened. I didn't think that it would.
I remember that too and I thought and still do, that it was mean spirited and cruel of the press to carry on like that. I don't claim, by any means to know the British Royal Family, but for them to plot to erase Diana from history was to portray them as cold and merciless. To erase her from history? How stupid, the Royals knew how popular she was and how were they to go about doing it? We all are very aware that Diana was, at times, a royal pain in the neck, pun intended. For the press to imply that the Royals breathed a big sigh of relief at her death was horrible, not to mention her sons were the Queen and Philip's grandsons. They would have to have been very, very cruel and heartless to feel that way. That's how the press portrayed them because it sold papers. I felt then and still feel now for William and Harry because of the press stories and how they may have affected them. Children shouldn't have to face those thing.
I have rather dreaded this year just because of the tabloids especially dragging up the Diana stories and trashing the Royal Family especially Charles and Camilla. Then there's Richard Kay at the DM with his stories of his BFF Diana and the sob stories she would tell him. It's ironic because if Diana and Charles would have been able to make a success of their marriage, Diana wouldn't have give Richard Kay the time of day.
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I remember that too and I thought and still do, that it was mean spirited and cruel of the press to carry on like that. I don't claim, by any means to know the British Royal Family, but for them to plot to erase Diana from history was to portray them as cold and merciless. To erase her from history? How stupid, the Royals knew how popular she was and how were they to go about doing it? We all are very aware that Diana was, at times, a royal pain in the neck, pun intended. For the press to imply that the Royals breathed a big sigh of relief at her death was horrible, not to mention her sons were the Queen and Philip's grandsons. ay.
They may not have breathed a sigh of relief, but it is IMO manifestly obvious that they weren't deeply grieved.
Charles was, I tink and of course so were Will and harry but the rest of the RF, had long since written Diana off and just hoped that she would gradually disappear off the public stage and bore the public so much that she would not be in the papers ny more.
They don't "wipe her out of royal history" because she is still very popular and she draws tourists to the royal palaces etc. But I think it is quite obvious that they think she was a dreadful mistake to have had as a princess and wish that she hadn't been Charles' wife.
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Please note that this thread is for news relating to the late Diana, Princess of Wales. A number of posts discussing her death, funeral and the aftermath of that have been moved to the following thread:

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Old 03-17-2017, 01:50 PM
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"An intimate glimpse into Princess Diana's thoughts after landmark moments - such as her wedding to Prince Charles, and Prince William's birth - are going up for auction.
Writing to personal secretary Jane Parsons, she revealed that that their honeymoon as a 'perfect opportunity to catch up on some sleep' and that 24,000 letters of thanks had to be sent out after William was born.
The collection is expected to cause a flurry of interest when it goes under the hammer at Stroud Auction Rooms next month."
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So many of her letters going on sale lately,...
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So many of her letters going on sale lately,...
Bad economies everywhere. No time to be sentimental (perhaps).
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Please note that posts relating to Charles' and Diana's Honeymoon have been moved to the following thread:

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Old 03-27-2017, 04:32 AM
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"Princess Diana will be used as a role model for schoolchildren in lessons on how to overcome mental health problems.
Diana, who died almost 20 years ago, talked about her experience of depression, the eating disorder bulimia and self-harming in her 1995 Panorama interview."
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Old 03-27-2017, 04:52 AM
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Bad economies everywhere. No time to be sentimental (perhaps).
I should imagine that in most cases the people selling these letters were not the original recipients. To the recipients they were probably treasured memories but, to their heirs, they are just simply treasure!
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still not exactly admirable behaviour. Why not give tehm to the Spencer family, or to Will and Harry?
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"Rarely-seen photos of Princess Diana show the late royal in some of her most carefree and uninhibited moments ever."

Princess Diana at Her Most Unguarded in 5 Rarely-Seen Photos
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Posts about the White Garden at KP have been moved to the 20th Anniversary of the Death of Diana, Princess of Wales: August 31, 2017 thread, as it has been put together to mark the anniversary.
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Let's keep all marriage discussion to the Charles and Diana thread please.
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Old 05-09-2017, 02:23 AM
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Find out who Princess Diana really wanted to dance with instead of John Travolta

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Leave it to the writers to focus on sex abd the city You know ignoring the obvious fact Mikhail is one of the most famous male ballet dancers of his time. And Diaba who was passionate about ballet, would be no shock she would wish to meet him.
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