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Old 03-07-2015, 05:59 AM
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It's a pity people don't think that her sons are alive and they loved their mother very much.
To make money by adding stories(unproved) to a book must upset them. Maybe we should all think how we would like our mother to be treated alive or dead.


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Old 03-07-2015, 06:06 AM
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The same can be said about their loving father and the last unauthorized biography full of unproved stories and rumors ...
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Old 03-07-2015, 06:11 AM
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But he is alive so if he wished he could deny it
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Old 03-07-2015, 06:19 AM
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I agree but the BRF never (or rarely) confirm or deny any unauthorized information about them. So basically you can write anything you want , and it's generally the case.
I think 80% , if not more, stories about the BRF are pure speculation.
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Old 03-07-2015, 06:29 AM
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But he could deny or arrange to have others deny it for him.
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Old 03-07-2015, 06:32 AM
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Well William and Harry could deny the rumors about their mother as well. They don't. I think they are just used to it, it's a very sad part of the job.
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Old 03-07-2015, 06:36 AM
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They were young when their mother died so they could hardly deny things that supposedly happened when they were in school !!!!
We tend to forget how young they were when they become motherless
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Old 03-07-2015, 06:53 AM
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But as you said earlier, they could also issue a statement asking the respect of the memory of their mother, like in 2007 when Channel 4 aired the distasteful last photos of Diana.

Letter from William and Harry to Channel 4 - Telegraph

I think the memory of the late princess is well guarded by her sons and doesn't need some more watch dogs. Rumors and speculations will be forever part of her life, and as such will be discussed like any other historical figure.
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Old 03-07-2015, 06:58 AM
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Assuming something is a rumor and lie does not mean it is a rumor or a lie.

Stories should always be checked.

Not liking what you are reading does not mean it is not true.

The same as believing what you are reading is the truth because you want to believe it is the truth.
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Old 03-07-2015, 07:36 AM
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What you are really saying is that historians shouldn't write a history about anybody or anything while anyone living associated with that event or their descendants who knew them are still living.

You can't say 'you can't write about Diana because her sons are still living' and allow someone to write about Stalin because his daughter is still alive. By that standard we would have been able to start writing about Queen Victoria around about 1982 when Princess Alice died, as she did know her personally and had clear memories of her grandmother. Alice lost her father at an even younger age than William and Harry lost their mother and was not much older than them when Victoria died so it is reasonable comparable.

Historians, and thus biographers, write about living and dead people - simple and the recently dead are of interest as much as those long dead.
Take the personalities out of it - which I am trying to do - and what the Diana fans on here are really saying is that we can't really even start to write the History of the 20th century yet as there are people still alive who knew people from that time.

That is ridiculous.
People are concentrating on the individual without looking at what they are really suggesting.
Obviously there should be no biographies of the Queen Mum because of the many allegations in that those that have been made - because she can't deny them - or of JFK or Churchill etc etc. And this isn't even a biography of Diana anyway but of Clapton - and again there is a lot of evidence that they had a relationship - so it is relevant to his life. How far that relationship went - who knows and who cares. We know that she had a number of lovers in her lifetime - is one more or less really going to matter?
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Old 03-07-2015, 07:39 AM
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It's a pity people don't think that her sons are alive and they loved their mother very much.
To make money by adding stories(unproved) to a book must upset them. Maybe we should all think how we would like our mother to be treated alive or dead.
Maybe at the time Diana should have thought about how her sons might feel in future when reading about her flirting with men! I'm playing devil's advocate here, since though I think she made a mistake by involving them in her battles with their father, I don't believe she owed her sons any duty with respect to what she did after she was separated from their father as long as it didn't amount to doing something disgraceful in public, and I don't consider the sort of flirting it seems she did to be disgraceful. William and Harry knew how unhappy Diana was in her marriage, and I think they would probably have been happy that she seemed happy flirting away like a carefree girl.

If this account does upset them, maybe they should grow thicker skins and grow up. Their mother was a separated adult at the time and perfectly entitled to flirt and even to seek happiness in a intimate relationship with a man if that was her choice.

And the fact these adult men might be upset by being confronted by accounts of their mother's private life that show she was a human being and not a saint, should not be reason for the biographers of the men she was associated with to refrain from mentioning her in their books.
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Old 03-07-2015, 09:08 AM
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And some people wrote books and articles about her while she was alive that were dismissed as lies and have proven to be true.
Some things can be true, but a great deal of it where lies, but stuck over the years as the truth.
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The most recent discussion has been moved to the Diana's Legacy: What is left or what will be left? thread. Continue there.
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Read Princess Diana's will and final wishes here-
Read Princess Diana's will of final wishes here | Royal | News | Daily Express
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Memories of a protection officer for Diana in Australia.

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What lovely memories he has of Diana


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Great article! I love the pictures, and Princess Diana's jokes. What I don't understand- she visited the same hospice twice on the same tour, or two different tours? Wow, that's really nice!
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EXCLUSIVE: 'She couldn't wait to share the movie with William and Harry.' Child star of original Jurassic Park tells how she met Princess Diana and why Steven Spielberg chose her (Hint: Blood-curdling screams)-
Jurassic Park's Ariana Richards on Princess Diana, Steven Spielberg and the T Rex | Daily Mail Online
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