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Old 10-19-2007, 04:17 PM
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I'm not trying to be a snob when I ask if anyone can see Dodi offering an ordinary 'from the range' ring to Diana as an engagement ring. £11,600 is not what I would expect him to offer to Diana if he intended to propose.

Then there is the 2nd ring he apparently purchased - a £60,000 etoile - or star – ring of gold and 'gems' from the same line. If that is true he was offering her the cheaper ring, it just doesn't sound true, IMO.
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I'm not trying to be a snob when I ask if anyone can see Dodi offering an ordinary 'from the range' ring to Diana as an engagement ring. £11,600 is not what I would expect him to offer to Diana if he intended to propose.

Then there is the 2nd ring he apparently purchased - a £60,000 etoile - or star – ring of gold and 'gems' from the same line. If that is true he was offering her the cheaper ring, it just doesn't sound true, IMO.
Yes, I agree. Anyway, I don't understand how Dodi passed from Kelly Fisher to Diana so fast only on the orders of his father. How could he disregard all his feelings for this woman ... I don't know but when you love someone (who you were going to marry by the way ...) you don't throw her away like that!
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Yes, I agree. Anyway, I don't understand how Dodi passed from Kelly Fisher to Diana so fast only on the orders of his father. How could he disregard all his feelings for this woman ... I don't know but when you love someone (who you were going to marry by the way ...) you don't throw her away like that!
A possibility - perhaps Dodi knew full well that he was just a summer fling, and was actually buying the expensive ring for Kelly to apologize for having to neglect her while he entertained Diana on daddy's orders...? And that the cheaper ring (ah, would that I owned one that "cheap"!!!) was being considered as a simple gift to Diana as a token of their summer friendship (small change to him, after all...)
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A possibility - perhaps Dodi knew full well that he was just a summer fling, and was actually buying the expensive ring for Kelly to apologize for having to neglect her while he entertained Diana on daddy's orders...? And that the cheaper ring (ah, would that I owned one that "cheap"!!!) was being considered as a simple gift to Diana as a token of their summer friendship (small change to him, after all...)
I agree with this theory, it's the only one that makes sense if it's true that he bought 2 rings.
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Jury sees video of Dodi Fayed shopping for jewelry
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Old 10-20-2007, 04:39 PM
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WAS Diana to wed? Jury see receipt for 'engagement ring' from Dodi | the Daily Mail

that theory makes sense to me, i think her true love was the doctor not dodi. i'm sorry thats the fugliest ring i've ever seen and not dianas style at all. it looks like what i call a "dinner ring" you wear it out to dinner but not as everyday jewelry.
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Old 10-20-2007, 05:27 PM
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Are they showing us the correct ring, because as you say, that is just a dress ring and hardly spectacular, which I believe Diana would have wanted if she was intending to accept him.
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My post was about the photographers, yet again trying to find an excuse for their inexcusable behaviour that night, the pathetic 'we heard a rumour so we pursued her', when in fact they pursued her, sometimes with her help, regardless of any rumour. < ed >

As regards the rest of your post, do we really need to have her reputation further sullied by the acceptance by many, that this woman had leapt into another bed at the first opportunity and got herself pregnant? Do we need to know anything but the absolute facts regarding the crash.

I hadn't given any thought to which religion any of her male friends were and I don't understand your reference to it when replying to my post.
If Diana did indeed leap into another bed 'at the first opportunity' (what???) then we might, charitably conclude, that she was emulating her 'betters', perhaps?

To me, this remains an integral consideration which must be considered, if only to quell the damaging speculation.

As for religion - the issue is, it seems to me, and, I dare say, very many others, that Dodi's religion was, indeed, a major issue. Ergo: it's why the claims that Diana was 'murdered' have gained substance and credence.

These considerations form, for me, accepted 'facts' of the case as they're pre-eminent in the minds of many. All should be addressed if closure is ever to be reached. What I, as an individual, or you either, think, isn't the issue.

All implications, accusations, suppositions, etc. must be openly declared, discussed and then, hopefully,discounted.

I can't, for one minute, imagine the distress and angst that this whole sorry mess must be causing the Queen. She's not a young woman any longer and really doesn't need all of this.
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:28 AM
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As for religion - the issue is, it seems to me, and, I dare say, very many others, that Dodi's religion was, indeed, a major issue. Ergo: it's why the claims that Diana was 'murdered' have gained substance and credence.
If 'religion' really was an issue, why was no-one concerned with Diana's relationship with Dr Hasnat Khan? He was the one she wanted to marry, not summer-fling Dodi.

I know we have covered this before, but why would Diana marrying a Muslim gentleman have any impact whatsoever on the Royal Family or the Monarchy as an institution? Knowing as we do that the Prince of Wales has close links with the Islamic world makes the "murdered because she was planning to marry a Muslim" theory ridiculous. If she did have a child to a Muslim, and that child was raised a Muslim, then so what? Would a Muslim Diana or a Muslim half-sibling of Prince William make any difference to anything?

Sorry, I just don't see how or why a Muslim marriage (or a Muslim child) would be motive for murder to either the Royal Family or to 'the Establishment'. If anything, Diana detractors would have been quietly delighted to see her permanently tarnishing her image and reputation by marrying the very questionable and dubious Dodi.

Apart from Mohammed Al Fayed himself, has anyone else claimed that 'religion' was an issue at that stage of Diana's life?
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Are they showing us the correct ring, because as you say, that is just a dress ring and hardly spectacular, which I believe Diana would have wanted if she was intending to accept him.
i don't believe this is "THE" ring but one very similar. didn't the one he chose have emeralds in it? at any rate i agree, it's not an engagement ring in the traditional sense. i think any woman would describe this as a dinner ring. hard to say what diana's taste was though. anything i've read said she chose the one from charles because it was the biggest one on the tray of choices presented to her yet later i remember reading that she wasn't crazy about it because it was too big.
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If Diana did indeed leap into another bed 'at the first opportunity' (what???) ....
We don't seem to understand one anothers post's at all, do we. To spell it out

I am horrified that many of Diana's 'fans' are, it seems, very happy to believe she was murdered because she was pregnant with Dodi Fayeds child, therefore claiming that she had sex with him at least once, within a few days of their 'romance' starting.

I as a non fan, find that assumption a disgrace... Diana may have been many things, but I don't believe for one moment she was a trollop!
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We don't seem to understand one anothers post's at all, do we. To spell it out

I am horrified that many of Diana's 'fans' are, it seems, very happy to believe she was murdered because she was pregnant with Dodi Fayeds child, therefore claiming that she had sex with him at least once, within a few days of their 'romance' starting.

I as a non fan, find that assumption a disgrace... Diana may have been many things, but I don't believe for one moment she was a trollop!
LOL , I like Diana and I never thought she could be pregnant and never will. It's an horrible thing to suppose this of someone, especially when we know how important it was for her to be in love with the other person (referring to Hewitt, Hoare, etc.). Moreover, she could get every man in the world so why Dodi ? I know what you will say, love isn't something you choose but I can't believe she would have done it with a man like him.
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that theory makes sense to me, i think her true love was the doctor not dodi. i'm sorry thats the fugliest ring i've ever seen and not dianas style at all. it looks like what i call a "dinner ring" you wear it out to dinner but not as everyday jewelry.
That is a most ugly ring! My wedding ring is considered a "dinner ring" and I'm happy to say it's not ugly like that thing what so ever!
I am wondering what the motivation is with Mohammed Al-Fayed. Just why is he trying so hard to prove that there was some sort of "marriage" proposal to Diana? Why is it so hard for him to comes to terms that Dodi was just a summer fling. Ego?
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I have one question for everyone out there...If Mi6 were given orders to carry out and therefore everything should be covered up, then what is the point of this trial?. Surely the judge and all involved are part of the same masonic group.The one that prince philip is head of. surely the outcome is already sorted out, but the inquest is just to please the public. And second thing is if the truth (if it is truth) that the accident was 'arranged' finally came out (but i really dont see how and who would go against the establishment in court/police/law or even church -as the queen is head of all that), then HOW WOULD THE PUBLIC REACT? i doubt that day would ever come, but just imagine IF THE VERDICT WAS MURDER then how would the british public accept prince philip or royal family anymore? It would be chaos on that day.
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I think Silver, your "theory" is just TOO FAR OUT THERE.
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Where there is smoke there is fire, and Diana knew how they operate better than anyone. she knew her time was coming. I personally believe things and facts do not add up and there is something not right. There was obviously something to cover up. Or she would not have been embalmed, tunnel would not have been opened so soon, camera footage would all be there rather than some missing here and there, and we would not be asking questions 10 years later. But lets look at the facts. Charles HAS married camilla and now we seem to accept her like she was not in anyway an adultress, and one day she will sit on the throne of england as our queen. Would that have ever happened if Diana was still alive? Funny how things work out isnt it.
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Here we go again ... . I think we've made many speculations and for what ?! "If she had done this or that" ... with "if" you can change History. And why does Camilla need to be named here ?! From what I know, she isn't a member of the MI6 ( or maybe she was send by James Bond ... yeah, right ). I'm