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Old 04-01-2008, 02:18 PM
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It got worse -
I believe Paul Burrell has shut down his website due to comments he has received lately regarding all this.

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and all the videos he placed on youtube.com under the user name "dianasrock" have also been removed....
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Old 04-01-2008, 02:27 PM
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Ouch indeed. That comes within a hair of an outright accusation of lying.
And what a fitting day for foolish Mr. Burrell to hear such an opinion of his character: April's Fool day.
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Old 04-01-2008, 03:14 PM
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If only, unfortunately without a separate prosecution of Fayed, I don't believe a gagging order is possible. I think the difference between those who want to believe it was murder and intelligent people like you, is that you seem to want to know the truth and have taken the time to read the Paget report and the inquest transcripts. Already some people are saying here in the UK, that even the inquest has been a giant cover up, that those who 'know' what happened were not called etc. When you 'push' them for their reasoning, it transpires that they have even the basic irrefutable facts wrong.
Exactly! I have many friends who are like that. As for Mr. Fayed I do hope he just accepts the verdict I don't want to hear him anymore I respect he lost a son but many other people lost their loved ones that night sure it hurts but this has got to stop.
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Old 04-01-2008, 06:13 PM
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While I believe there was no direct hand/order by any member of the British royal family in the death of Diana and I entirely respect the diligence of the inquest/Paget report, I will keep and open mind that the remote possibility exists of a sinister element could have facilitated the accident in the Alma Tunnel that fateful night. There is no logical explanation for this gut feeling on my part.
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Old 04-01-2008, 07:10 PM
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Well that I don't mind as I had said earlier I respect people's opinions. To tell you the truth I'm sure the idea will always linger in my mind, it's just something that's hard to get rid of once you've thought about but I honestly don't beleive BRF had anything to do with her death. Now when it comes to people like my friends who hear maybe one or two things relating to the accident and automatically come to the conclusion that it was murder, that's what I can't stand as I had previously said. I'm glad the coroner is speaking his mind about Mr. Fayed, Mr. Burrell and the continuation of the conspiracy theories, because it's true they will never go away but atleast this way we know they had a chance, couldn't prove it what else is there to do now...nothing really if it happened, it happened but will never been known, again with all we know I don't beleive so but anyways. Btw thanks for editing my post Warren I was meaning to do that but I was in a rush last night to finish my studies.
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Old 04-02-2008, 12:08 AM
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I am great admirer of "nothing but the truth" under oath so the fact that Paul Burrell rants he didn't tell the "whole truth" is amazing because he can't come back to UK without threat of being arrested (is this right?).. What he failed to factually clear up must be rather mind blowing to have placed such huge value on not being able to return to friends and family in UK...

I'm just sayin'...
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Old 04-02-2008, 03:14 AM
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I am great admirer of "nothing but the truth" under oath so the fact that Paul Burrell rants he didn't tell the "whole truth" is amazing because he can't come back to UK without threat of being arrested (is this right?).. What he failed to factually clear up must be rather mind blowing to have placed such huge value on not being able to return to friends and family in UK...

I'm just sayin'...
Probably it has to do with the information this Mr. Faux gave - that Burrell in fact took jewelery and papers from the late Diana. Okay, the lady testified on the inquest that she didn't keep anything safe for Burrell and that she was more the friend of Maria Burrell than of PB, but it is not implausible that when Paul or Maria asked her to store something for them, that she did it and now on knowing the background denies it.

So with these accusations hanging in the air and the fact that if he told all as it was, he would destroy the basis of his own business in the US, I tend to think he had enough of a motive for lying.

Plus if the coroner is a devoted monarchist, he must have been shocked by the breaking of trust on Burrell's side when it came to the princes. And once a person has a negative opinion of somebody he or she tend to be influenced by it - no matter how much they try for fairness. Not that I want to accuse the coroner of not being fair, but he was outspoken.
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Old 04-02-2008, 07:13 AM
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I am great admirer of "nothing but the truth" under oath so the fact that Paul Burrell rants he didn't tell the "whole truth" is amazing because he can't come back to UK without threat of being arrested (is this right?).. What he failed to factually clear up must be rather mind blowing to have placed such huge value on not being able to return to friends and family in UK...

I'm just sayin'...
There's nothing stopping Paul Burrell from coming back to the UK, he isn't about to get arrested. There have been no charges laid against him, if a police investigation finds evidence of pergury then charges could be laid. At the moment he can come and go, in and out of the UK whenever he wants. His sons actually live in the US, his wife spends most of her time in the UK. Paul Burrell spends most of his time in the US as that's where he's making money and he doesn't face the same kind of ridicule that he does in the UK. More than likely that's why he won't go to the UK not because he fears being arrested. ( Which he won't be as he hasn't been charged with anything) If he does get charged then being in the US won't keep him out of the UK court system as he will just get extradited to face court in the UK.
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Old 04-02-2008, 08:59 AM
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The coroner, Lord Justice Scott Baker, has spent the last two days summing up the evidence and conclude this morning, before sending the jury out.

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Old 04-02-2008, 09:11 AM
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I am great admirer of "nothing but the truth" under oath so the fact that Paul Burrell rants he didn't tell the "whole truth" is amazing because he can't come back to UK without threat of being arrested (is this right?).. What he failed to factually clear up must be rather mind blowing to have placed such huge value on not being able to return to friends and family in UK...
As has already been stated, there is no warrant out for Burrells arrest, (although I live in hope), therefore no reason for him not to return here. So far there has not even been an investigation into a possible charge of perjury.

Mr Burrell clearly, IMO, lied when giving testimony, especially over the 'secret' note Diana wrote for him that he was unable to reveal.

He was made to look a complete ass and by saying "I was very naughty and I made a couple of red herrings, and I couldn't help doing it", was hoping to keep himself saleable to the Tabloids and especially the US market.

It just went to show his intelligence that he couldn't even use the correct saying!
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Old 04-02-2008, 09:52 AM
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They should lock him up for perjury. Al Fayed can share his cell when they send him down for slander.
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I am concerned that the Judge told the jury not to consider the "plot" only from the Al-Fayed standpoint. He will now scream that the jury wasn't allowed to consider the truth, blah, blah, blah, etc. He will never shut up now - not that he would have anyway, but perhaps having a jury decide against him would have held more credibility with him.
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I am concerned that the Judge told the jury not to consider the "plot" only from the Al-Fayed standpoint. He will now scream that the jury wasn't allowed to consider the truth, blah, blah, blah, etc. He will never shut up now - not that he would have anyway, but perhaps having a jury decide against him would have held more credibility with him.
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Old 04-02-2008, 07:06 PM
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So how long do they take to decide? Should we know by tomorrow or a little longer then that? Ya Fayed is so not going to stop that's why in the end maybe an open verdict is best but then again won't it get people talking....I guess at this point actually nothing will stop people so it's a lose lose situation...meh for me personally I've heard everything I need to and I beleive what I want to and I guess that's how it goes for everyone.

Btw I love how the articles(least the one's I've read) are making it seem as if the Coroner is pushing for an open verdict. Especially the way they wrote about Henri Paul's blood tests when clearly it's explained in the Pagat report.
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I am concerned that the Judge told the jury not to consider the "plot" only from the Al-Fayed standpoint. He will now scream that the jury wasn't allowed to consider the truth, blah, blah, blah, etc. He will never shut up now - not that he would have anyway, but perhaps having a jury decide against him would have held more credibility with him.
During al-Fayed's testimony, he was asked if he was prepared to accept the verdict of the jury. Under oath al-Fayed stated that he would accept whatever the verdict the jury came up with. The Coroner in his summing up made sure he the jury were reminded, he told the jury that Mohammed al-Fayed had stated under oath that he would accept the verdict of the jury.
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Old 04-03-2008, 04:54 AM
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So how long do they take to decide? Should we know by tomorrow or a little longer then that? Ya Fayed is so not going to stop that's why in the end maybe an open verdict is best but then again won't it get people talking....I guess at this point actually nothing will stop people so it's a lose lose situation...meh for me personally I've heard everything I need to and I beleive what I want to and I guess that's how it goes for everyone.

Btw I love how the articles(least the one's I've read) are making it seem as if the Coroner is pushing for an open verdict. Especially the way they wrote about Henri Paul's blood tests when clearly it's explained in the Pagat report.
If the jury returns an open verdict, the speculation and rumours will never end.

I am hoping for a simple 'Accidental Death'.
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"During al-Fayed's testimony, he was asked if he was prepared to accept the verdict of the jury. Under oath al-Fayed stated that he would accept whatever the verdict the jury came up with. The Coroner in his summing up made sure he the jury were reminded, he told the jury that Mohammed al-Fayed had stated under oath that he would accept the verdict of the jury."


Yeah, right. Like that's going to happen. He will never believe it was an accident, because that would make him and his dim-witted son responsible for the death of Diana. He will charge "cover up" loudly and incessantly until he dies. And because he is so paranoid, any attempt to quash his rantings will (in his sick mind) be one more indication that Diana and Dodi were murdered, they are trying to silence him, they don't want the truth, etc. etc. etc., ad nauseam.
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Can all of you believe that this is 79 pages long and STILL running??
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If the jury returns an open verdict, the speculation and rumours will never end.

I am hoping for a simple 'Accidental Death'.
Exactly, I too would like for it to just be an accidental death, but the way I see it is people will always beleive what they want to so it's sorta a lose lose situation. Ya there are some things we will never be able to prove about the crash but the bulk of evidence is there. While I don't see Mr Fayed stopping anytime soon I'd respect him alot more if he did accept the jury's verdict and let Diana's soul and his son's for that matter finally rest in peace, because this has gone on long enough what exactly would another inquest prove in his mind? Nothing it's 10 years on there's not much more info we can get out of this, we know what we know..and as I said before some things will never be known but that's just the way things go when it comes to something like this.
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If the jury returns an open verdict, the speculation and rumours will never end.

I am hoping for a simple 'Accidental Death'.

I hope he'll use use words like "excessive speed", "alcohol" and "not wearing seat-belt", rather than "accident".
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