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Old 12-09-2006, 12:10 PM
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All of Al-Fayeds claims were denied:

1 - the chauffeur (in Al-Fayed's service!) was not drunk at all, it was a complot to kill Diana
2 - Diana was pregnant from Dodi, therefore they wanted to kill her
3 - Diana's last words were a declaration of love to Dodi

At 1: the chauffeur (in Al-Fayed's service!) had three times the maximum amount of alcohol in his blood, and DNA has proven it was the chauffeur's blood

At 2: the autopsy has learned that Diana was not pregnant at all

At 3: Frédéric Mailliez, the doctor who gave first assistance to Diana in that tunnel, declared she was unconscious, she moved her hands but had not said anything.

So, it was just:

+ drunk driving
+ high speed
+ dark slippery tunnel
+ no seatbelts
= asking for problems

The problem is that so many people simply can not believe that such an icon, such a beautiful lady, one of the world's most famous women, can die so unglamorous in a concrete tunnel. But helas...
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Old 12-09-2006, 12:18 PM
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Well next week we should all have had a chance to read the 'key points' in the preliminary report and then those that firmly believe that she was killed, by whoever, can start shouting 'cover up!

The reason al Fayed keeps shouting 'murder', is because he can't accept that his driver, in his car, caused the deaths of his son and Diana, that the protection he offered them both, that night was totally useless, IMO.
You're right with Al Fayed, IMHO... it was his responsibility and he failed to protect them. I don't know how many books on Diana claim that the way the Al Fayed's have treated their employees made it possible that Henri Paul drove without anyone stopping him. Lest of all that poor excuse for a bodyguard.

So Al Fayed has to live with that responsibility and he searches for a way out on crying "murder". Anyone knows that a person who has a proof of whatever kind that it was murder would leave Al Fayed's office a rich man/woman, if he gave Al Fayed that proof, but noone turned up, so there simply is none! It'sa different with the Kennedy-killing: if there had been somebody like Al Fayed with these tons of money in the picture we would have heard the truth already. But noone really was interested in who shot Kennedy, thus no result. With Diana, at least Al Fayed and Scotland Yard (probably the RF as well) want to know, thus we will get the truth. And IMHo we will get to know that it really was a sad, sad accident.
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Old 12-09-2006, 12:26 PM
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Well not everyone will be satisfied with the inquest's results. People who had believed that Diana's death was a result of murder might be disappointed. Will we ever know what really happened that night possibly or possibly not. But for now Diana's death was an accident.
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Old 12-09-2006, 12:57 PM
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Will we ever know what really happened that night possibly or possibly not.
The thing is that you either believe the verdict or you don't. If you believe it, then yes, you will know what really happened. If you don't believe it, no, you won't ever know. That's the dilemma here. How will somebody know what's the truth if he/she did not investigate the case him/herself? You either trust those who investigated or you don't. There is no other way.
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Old 12-09-2006, 06:32 PM
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I think it's important to realise that Al Fayed has alot to lose. He wants a British passport - he's desperate for it. Now, the other problem is Al Fayed has been involved in some very dodgy dealings - questions in parliament etc. He's not only a social liability but a political liability and unfortunately, he doesn't put his point across well at all. He's generally regarded as a nutter.
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Old 12-09-2006, 06:39 PM
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It's also definitely possible that al Fayed saw 'Diana my daughter in law' as a means towards acceptability within the British Establishment. Since that didn't happen, he is using her the only way he has left-reminding the public constantly of the 'romance' between Diana and Dodi. Hence the 'pregnancy', the 'engagement', the statue at Harrods, etc.

I have compassion for al Fayed-to lose a child is a horrible thing-but the man is not rowing with all his oars in the water.
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Old 12-09-2006, 10:57 PM
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Charles to brief his sons on report into Diana's death

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...496630,00.html
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Old 12-10-2006, 12:04 AM
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A to Z of Princess Diana's Death
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006570125,00.html

Tests 'prove' Diana driver drunk
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6162041.stm

Report: Diana's Driver Was Drunk
http://people.aol.com/people/article...568450,00.html

Report: Princess Diana driver was drunk
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061210/.../britain_diana

Report: Diana's driver was drunk
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe....ap/index.html
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Old 12-10-2006, 04:33 AM
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Charles to brief his sons on report into Diana's death
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...496630,00.html
In this report al-Fayed is accusing the BBC of either being "very naive" or, upping the ante, "complicit in the ongoing coverup".
Obviously the tentacles of this conspiracy reach far wider than any of us have ever imagined.
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Old 12-10-2006, 10:10 AM
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for mohamed al fayed diana and dodi only was a business, we can know if diana really was in love with dodi or if yet loved the pakistani doctor of if she loved charles, we cant know, may be was casualitly that she die with dodi that night in paris
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Old 12-10-2006, 12:25 PM
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the statue at Harrods, etc.

I have compassion for al Fayed-to lose a child is a horrible thing-but the man is not rowing with all his oars in the water.
Yes it must be awful for him but, to put such a memorial up, the statue is awful, tacky, yuk.

I think you are right about seeing her as a means to an end. For years he has tried to buy into British society, then the government. He probably saw Diana as the 'door' to it all, that as the 'step grandparent' to the future King, he would finally have 'made it'. He was naive if he thought that anyone but the 'hangers on' would socialise with him. The man has definitely become even more 'unhinged', (he was always strange, he chose the wrong colour pink for his little castle and then blamed the painters. ), Now because he has been unable to get planning permission for one or other of his schemes, he is saying he will 'pull out of scotland'. Bloody good riddance.
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Old 12-11-2006, 07:49 AM
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American secret service agents reportedly bugged late British royal DIANA, PRINCESS OF WALES' telephone conversations on the night she died - without permission from their British counterparts.

http://www.cinemablend.com/celebrity...eath-1972.html

AL FAYED: DI PROOF IS FAKED
By Susie Boniface
HARRODS boss Mohamed Al Fayed has hit out at a BBC documentary which says the crash that killed his son and Princess Diana was definitely accidental.

http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/t...name_page.html
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American secret service agents reportedly bugged late British royal DIANA, PRINCESS OF WALES' telephone conversations on the night she died - without permission from their British counterparts.
I'd certainly hope this was not the case.
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Old 12-11-2006, 10:33 AM
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Inquest into Death of Diana

I don't think it would be surprising at all, since she was advocating doing away with landmines, travelling to Pakistan and associating with Fayeds and Khashoggis. (I don't think she was personally doing anything wrong but Diana was not as cautious as she might have been.)

If it is true, though, I think this would certainly raise questions in her sons' minds about how much freedom/privacy they really have.
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Old 12-11-2006, 11:13 AM
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I think it's possible, but not anything more than a routine procedure. It's not a secret that the CIA bugs phones of a lot of 'high ranking' individuals. In this case, it's only relevant, I think, if there was something on one of those phone calls which indicated that Diana was afraid for her life or that she was aware of a murder plot. Obviously, there wasn't, or it would have come out by now.

It's a brouhaha to sell more newspapers at this point. Nothing more.
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:33 PM
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It's not a secret that the CIA bugs phones of a lot of 'high ranking' individuals.
But the thing is that (if this is the case) they bugged the telephone line of Diana - Princess of Wales. I mean, we are talking of a member of the British royal family who hardly posed a security threat to the USA or her interests.

I'm sure M16 bugging the White House wouldn't go down too well, would it
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:42 PM
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But the question is why ? Diana was a member of royal family and the mother of the future king of England. What would be the purpose to bug Diana's telephone. She was just very high profile Princess.
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:46 PM
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Who was meddling in very serious issues. The moment she started going anywhere near Palestine she was begging to be bugged.
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:50 PM
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But she was in Pakistan on a humanatarian trip. Not a political one. I wonder if she was bugged as a result of her landmine campaign.
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:53 PM
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Any public figure carrying out humanitarian work can be seen as representing a country. Although her visit was a private one, the connotation could have been that this was the West (at least Britain) taking sides. And that's something that would need careful watching by all security services.
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