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Old 01-01-2014, 06:51 PM
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I have see Charles and Camilla referred to as Prince George's "grandparents" many times over the past few months. If Camilla is to be classed as this, then why is Raine Spencer never referred to as the great grandmother? She was married to Princess Diana's father for 16 years until she was widowed.
When you think about it, Raine Spencer has absolutely no blood ties to George but I imagine that should be listed as George's step-grandmother as Camilla is, in truth, a step-grandmother also. We really don't have a clue what William's relationship is like with Raine and perhaps if they do visit, George will call her "granny" or something similar.

Raine Spencer also went on to marry again after Diana's father died. It could be very possible that Raine hasn't kept up with any of the Spencer relations after her remarriage.
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I always heard that Raine didn't get along with any of the Spencer children.

I know her relationship with Diana improved somewhat, but I don't think she was close to any of the others.
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Old 01-01-2014, 07:10 PM
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When you think about it, Raine Spencer has absolutely no blood ties to George but I imagine that should be listed as George's step-grandmother as Camilla is, in truth, a step-grandmother also. We really don't have a clue what William's relationship is like with Raine and perhaps if they do visit, George will call her "granny" or something similar.

Raine Spencer also went on to marry again after Diana's father died. It could be very possible that Raine hasn't kept up with any of the Spencer relations after her remarriage.
Actually she is further removed as step great grandmother (same "level" as the Queen, not grandparents)
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I always heard that Raine didn't get along with any of the Spencer children.

I know her relationship with Diana improved somewhat, but I don't think she was close to any of the others.
I think that showed when after Johnnie Spencer passed away and Charles inherited Althorp, Raine vacated the premises. I think at best, Raine was tolerated by the Spencer children and perhaps, as you stated, their relationship improved with age.

One thing I'm wondering now after looking at some some facts about Raine is that I've noticed her maiden name was McCorquodale. Is there any relationship between Raine's family and Neil Edmund McCorquodale that married Diana's sister Sarah?
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One thing I'm wondering now after looking at some some facts about Raine is that I've noticed her maiden name was McCorquodale. Is there any relationship between Raine's family and Neil Edmund McCorquodale that married Diana's sister Sarah?
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George McCorquodale ->Alexander Cowan McCorquodale ->Alexander George McCorquodale ->Raine Spencer
George McCorquodale ->Harold McCorquodale ->Kenneth McCorquodale ->Alastair McCorquodale -> Neil Edmund McCorquodale
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I think that showed when after Johnnie Spencer passed away and Charles inherited Althorp, Raine vacated the premises. I think at best, Raine was tolerated by the Spencer children and perhaps, as you stated, their relationship improved with age.

One thing I'm wondering now after looking at some some facts about Raine is that I've noticed her maiden name was McCorquodale. Is there any relationship between Raine's family and Neil Edmund McCorquodale that married Diana's sister Sarah?
Nice and complex. Quote from Wiki:

Raine McCorquodale is the only child of novelist Dame Barbara Cartland and Alexander McCorquodale, an Army officer who was heir to a printing fortune. Her parents divorced in 1936, and her mother promptly married Alexander McCorquodale's cousin, Hugh McCorquodale, by whom she had two sons, Ian and Glen McCorquodale.

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Lady Sarah Spencer married Neil Edmund McCorquodale (born 1951), son of Alastair McCorquodale and Rosemary Sybil Turnor, on 17 May 1980 in Northamptonshire, England.[2] Neil McCorquodale is a nephew of Lady Sarah's stepmother, Raine Spencer.

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I have see Charles and Camilla referred to as Prince George's "grandparents" many times over the past few months. If Camilla is to be classed as this, then why is Raine Spencer never referred to as the great grandmother? She was married to Princess Diana's father for 16 years until she was widowed.

Perhaps if Raine was still married to Johnny then she would be referred to as that. Camilla is married to his grandfather but his maternal great grandfather is dead so why would his widow be referred to as his step great grandmother.
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Perhaps if Raine was still married to Johnny then she would be referred to as that. Camilla is married to his grandfather but his maternal great grandfather is dead so why would his widow be referred to as his step great grandmother.
Even when her husband was alive Raine was never referred to as William and Harry's grandmother--mainly because Diana's mother was still alive. I tend to think some news outlets insist on referring to Camilla as George's grandmother to stir up Diana fans who still resent Camilla. Some media thrives on controversy.
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You could be right, although I know several "blended" families that never, ever describe themselves by degrees, steps, halves, etc. Family is family, end of story!
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