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Old 05-04-2006, 05:18 PM
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But anything beyond first cousin should be okay. Second, third, fourth, fith, sixth etc cousins can very well have children together without fearing inbreading.
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Old 05-04-2006, 06:30 PM
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Still, it's not a very good idea to have a family tree with just a few branches!
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Old 08-21-2006, 12:29 PM
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Did Diana have cousins?

I was thinking about this a couple days ago I know a lot about Diana but I was jst wondering if Diana had any cousins? I don't think i've read that her father and mother had sisters or brothers and I hve never heard of her aunts or uncles. So did Diana have any aunts or uncles or any cousins growing up?
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Old 08-21-2006, 12:35 PM
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Didn´t Dianas mother had a brother who comitted suicide? I have no idea about any cousins though...
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Old 08-21-2006, 12:48 PM
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ETA I kept adding information and my original post became very messy so I re-edited everything

Father Side
Lady Anne Spencer b. 1920 married Christopher Wake Walker b. 1920
Children
Elizabeth b. 1944 married Anthony Duckworth-Chad, children James, William and Davina
David b. 1947 married Jenni Vaulkhard, children Frederic and Nicholas
Richard b. 1951 married Sharon Little, children Kate, Olivia and Robert
Michael b. 1958 married Catherine Hazlitt, child George
Diana b. 1958 married Christopher Macfarlene, children Thomas and Geogrina


Mother Side
Mary b. 1934 (Frances older sister) married Anthony Berry b. 1925 d. 1984
Children
Alexandra b. 1955
Antonia b. 1957
Joanna b. 1957 married Peter Tufnell, 3 children
Edward b. 1960
They divorced in 1966. She married then married Denis Geoghegan, they divorced in 80, she then married Michael Gunningham and they divorced in 89. I don't believe that she had any more children. 2

Anthony Berry was killed in an IRA attack at the Brighton Hotel, my understanding is that Joanna has been in contact with the bomber and made a documentry about it. Article with pictures of her http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/1704600.stm

Edmund (Frances younger brother) (b. 1939 d. 84) Married Lavina Pitman.
Children
Patrick (b. 1967) who is the current Baron Fermoy he married Tessa Kayall, children Arabella and Eliza

Interesting that she has two sets of twin cousins Micheal and Diana on her father's side and Antonia and Joanna on her mother's side.

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Didn´t Dianas mother had a brother who comitted suicide


Peter Shand Kydd, Diana's stepfather had a son named Adam (Diana's step brother) he died of a drug overdose which was suspected as suicide.

1 http://www.thepeerage.com/p10512.htm#i105115
2 en.wikipedia.com
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Old 08-22-2006, 03:12 PM
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Thanks for the helpful information. Do you know if any pictures of them could be found as a family? Did Diana take any pictures with them? Do you know if she saw them much? Or if they ever came to visit? Sorry for all the questions. :)
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Old 08-23-2006, 02:33 PM
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Sophie also has a Stuart blood line, I believe. I do know Sarah, Diana, and Sophie share a bloodline. If you go to House Wessex you can see the chart a well as others. There is a link on this forum in the links section. This may explain why some people think sophe and diana look alike.
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Old 08-23-2006, 06:00 PM
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Yes. You are right. She descended from the Stuarts. And this make me happy, for, when Williams should be the King of England, the Stuarts and the Windsors blood will be reunited over U.K 's throne. This is very interesting in an historical point of view. Isn't it? :)

Vanesa.

As Charles is a direct descentent of James I (Charles II's grandfather) this is actually not the case - the Stuart line has never left the throne.

The Hanoverians claim is based on direct protestant descent from James I - George I was the great, great (and another great maybe) grandson of James I.

This claim comes up every so often but people do need to realise that the Windsors are descendents of the Stuarts in their own right.
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Old 08-24-2006, 02:42 PM
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She was related to
- Stewart by Susan wife of 5th Duke of Marlborough and descendant of Alexander Stewart, 4th High Steward of Scotland
- Stuarts bu Frances Fitzroy daughter of 3 Duke of Grafton and PM of GB and greatgreatgreat-granddaughter of Charles II and Barbara Villiers, Duchess of Cleveland
http://geneweb.inria.fr/roglo?lang=e...olor=;i=103286
- Cavendish by Arabella (d. 1698) daughter of 2 D. of Newcastle and by William Cavendish, 5 D. of Devonshire
- Howard by Henry Howard, 4 Earl of Carlisle after Thomas, 4 D. of Norfolk (1538-1572)
- Seymour by Adelaide with 1 Marquess of Hertford and with Edrwad Seymour, 1 D. of Somerset (1506-1552)
- with Hamilton by Cynthia daughter of 3 D. of Abercorn
- with Beauclerk by Topham great-grandsdon of Charles II
- with Grey by Charles Grey, 2 Earl Grey, PM of GB
- with Montagu by Henry Montagu, 1 Earl of Manchester
- with Russell by Caroline Russell daughter of 4 Duke of Bedford

Diana's ancestors:
- 15th generation http://geneweb.inria.fr/roglo?lang=e...before=&cgl=on
- 69th generation http://geneweb.inria.fr/roglo?lang=e...before=&cgl=on
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Old 08-30-2006, 09:12 PM
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Even when they were engaged, it was said that Diana had more royal blood in her than her husband-to-be. Diana and I share a portion of our family tree. My Temple-Spencer links with hers. My great+ grandmother Susannah Spencer Temple was the daughter of Dorothy Spencer-Spencer and Thomas Spencer (2nd cousins once removed) through Dorothy's brother to Diana.

Coincidences happen like with Diana, Sarah, Sophie and Camillla sharing genealogy. My (former) husband and I were married 2 weeks before Diana and Charles and William was born a few months before my son. My son is 6'4", blond with reddish goatee and looks alot like a combination of William and Harry. My sister's son looks alot like Harry. My aunt has a picture of me in her winter home in Florida that years ago people said I looked like Diana. I still have no idea what photo it is, but Diana and I have the same eyes and nose, though I was born with my father's dark hair (which changes shades of
blonde/light brown/redhead as my fickle personality decrees... )

We are related at some point I believe and others on this board may have a more direct link to Diana and her family, but they aren't aware of it.

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I'm a distant cousin of Camilla's, and probably of Diana's too (someone on the board told me I was but I don't know how for sure).

Anyway, I wanted to know if anyone knows what has happened to Diana's nephews and nieces?

And does anyone know much about Sir Robert Fellowes? He seems like such an enigmatic character -- Sarah's cousin, Diana's brother-in-law, and Queen's secretary. He must have a cast iron stomach to have worked for the Queen and endured these family turmoils!
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Didn´t Dianas mother had a brother who comitted suicide? I have no idea about any cousins though...

Yes, I remember reading that Frances Shand-Kydd's brother committed suicide but I don't have further information on that. He had drink and depression problems, as I recall.
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Old 09-23-2006, 05:26 PM
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I read somewhere that Diana was also related to former u.s. secretary Colin Powell. I wish I could remember the link.
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Old 10-16-2006, 02:55 AM
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I didn't like that he refused Diana a private place while she was alive but them built a shrine to her after her death like he was the loving brother .I don't think it was right for him to badmouth the royal family at the funeral it was neither the time or the place and considering the kind of brother and husband he was very much out of line.I wish if he was of the mind to pay tribute to his sister he would have done it in a more positive way.
Just a personal opinion of my own but I wish given Diana's love of dance those in a position to would have honered that in some way by opening a dance school or something like that.
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I lost patience with him after his eulogy at Diana's funeral. That he could take the shots he did at the RF while William and Harry were sitting there, forced to listen, on the day they buried their beloved mother-it showed how little consideration he had for Diana and his nephews.

A eulogy is intended to pay tribute to a life-not seek revenge. Diana would have been horrified, I have no doubt. She deserved better than that.
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Pretty good article on one of Diana's ancestors who shares many similarities with the late Princess. The movie, The Duchess, starring Kiera Knightley, retrace the life of Georgiana Cavendish, the Duchess of Devonshire.

Princess Diana and the Duchess of Devonshire: Striking similarities - Telegraph
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Unfortunately, Chris Hasting mistakenly claimed Diana was born at Althrope, instead of Park House. That took the wind out of his argument for "similarities".
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Any Diana-watcher could have told him that!

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Unfortunately, Chris Hasting mistakenly claimed Diana was born at Althrope, instead of Park House. That took the wind out of his argument for "similarities".
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I agree that Stuart blood has never left the royal family. Indeed, the present royal family, as well as Sarah Ferguson, Diana Spencer AND Camilla Parker-Bowles are all descendants of Charles the Second. (The Queen Mother might have been as well, but I'll need to check up on that!) All of the mentioned people are about fifth and sixth cousins.
Just out of curiousity could you tell me how the present royal family is descended from Charles II. Sarah Ferguson, Diana Spencer and Camilla are but I am missing something here, I thought if the Queen was descended from Charles II it would be through her mother.
Can you help out here?
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"I agree that Stuart blood has never left the royal family"

Elizabeth II descends in the paternal line from James I Stuart through his daughter Elizabeth and granddaughter Sophia.
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