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Old 12-17-2006, 11:37 AM
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I admire the Princes, but there must be a better way to honour Diana than this naff pop concert.

Diana, princess of Wales would have been proud of her two sons on Tuesday.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...urce=&ito=1490
The Daily Mail just can't help itself, can it? "They — with the Duchess of Cornwall waiting in the wings — may prefer the idea of a pop concert to a substantial memorial that would keep Diana's name in the public mind for ever." What does their decision have to do with the Duchess of Cornwall? And how many people are going to come away from that article with the impression that Camilla has been encouraging them to do something naff, cheap, tawdry, and transient rather than something substantial and permanent?
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The Daily Mail just can't help itself, can it? "They — with the Duchess of Cornwall waiting in the wings — may prefer the idea of a pop concert to a substantial memorial that would keep Diana's name in the public mind for ever." What does their decision have to do with the Duchess of Cornwall? And how many people are going to come away from that article with the impression that Camilla has been encouraging them to do something naff, cheap, tawdry, and transient rather than something substantial and permanent?
I don't understand why the press keeps insisting there isn't such a memorial. Granted, the circular fountain isn't what people expected-but it is still a memorial. As is the playground in Kensington Gardens, the Diana memorial walk, another fountain in Australia, the 'temple' at Althorp, and another monument in India.

Not to mention, a number of programs established in Diana's name-such as the Memorial Award for Young People. After all, there's no law that says it must be crafted of stone to be a significant memorial, is there?

Sad that the press will blithely ignore all that in their eagerness to condemn Camilla.
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that video about Diana's concert on youtube of Prince William and Prince Harry have interview about their mother the late Diana,Princess of Wales's 10th year of her death



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Is anyone going to the concert?
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Old 12-17-2006, 08:56 PM
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I don't understand why the press keeps insisting there isn't such a memorial. Granted, the circular fountain isn't what people expected-but it is still a memorial. As is the playground in Kensington Gardens, the Diana memorial walk, another fountain in Australia, the 'temple' at Althorp, and another monument in India.

Not to mention, a number of programs established in Diana's name-such as the Memorial Award for Young People. After all, there's no law that says it must be crafted of stone to be a significant memorial, is there?

Sad that the press will blithely ignore all that in their eagerness to condemn Camilla.
I agree with you Diana does have nice memorials. It doesen't have to be carved in stone.
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Old 12-17-2006, 09:04 PM
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Is anyone going to the concert?
I will try, but here the change of money (pesos) to dollars is very high, but if I can with the money I will try, I waiting a baby for end of may so wil be hard can go, but I will try,
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Sad that the press will blithely ignore all that in their eagerness to condemn Camilla.
Let's not confuse the press with the Daily Mail!
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I will try, but here the change of money (pesos) to dollars is very high, but if I can with the money I will try, I waiting a baby for end of may so wil be hard can go, but I will try,
The first lot of tickets were sold within 30 minutes, the second batch will go just as quickly. I know 4 women who have tickets and are going so they can see ysbels favorites ( ).
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I'm glad to see that the Princes "seem" to be taking an active role in these two projects to memorialize their mom. As someone whose mother died young (both she and I were young at her death), I understand the need to remember a dead parent, especially at significant anniversaries, such as the tenth, 15th, etc.

IMO, some users of this board are simply finding fault with the planned events because they are about DIANA, and based on their on previous comments, those users can't stand her. Fine, you don't like her or what she was. Whatever...

It is appropriate for these young men to "head up", these projects, if they actually are; or even if they are just figure-heads, to be that. After all, THEY are her sons and the ones that lost the most almost ten years ago.
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I'm glad to see that the Princes "seem" to be taking an active role in these two projects to memorialize their mom. As someone whose mother died young (both she and I were young at her death), I understand the need to remember a dead parent, especially at significant anniversaries, such as the tenth, 15th, etc...
...and based on their on previous comments, those users can't stand her.

Whatever...
As anyone will tell you, every year on their loved ones birthday or date of death, they manage to remember them, without the need for a concert or indeed fanfare. These events are, IMO, in answer to the accusations from Diana fans, that her son's don't and didn't care. Even your 'seem' speaks volumes.
No, I and a lot of the still paying public, couldn't stand her but, I would object to the use of taxpayers money if it was to 'remember' any dead celebrity!

The moderators did ask us all to play nicely, so I will leave it at that.
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Actually, I said "seem" because none of us, as far as I can tell, actually live in the lives of these young men, so we don't know how much control they can or will exert over these events. Thus, you incorrectly interpreted my comment.

I personally think it is a nice thing that the Princes have come to an age where they feel able to do something publicly that *appears* to acknowlege what she meant to so many millions of people around the world. Granted, I know you are not one of her fans. However, her charity work meant quite a bit to the very many charities for whom she was a patron.

Perhaps they are doing this concert for the people, that, as you put it, were just "fans", but most likely, they see it as an excellent method to raise money for the very people their mom was most closely aligned to, in terms of her charity work.

As far as I have been able to read, nothing suggests that the tax-payers of the UK will be asked to pay anything for the event. Granted I'm not in the UK, but I do know something about tax-payers having to pay for public events, as can be quite common here in the US.

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The only reason I even posted in the forum today is because I read the entire thread, beginning to end, and the tone of many posts was simply too vitriolic and hateful towards Diana and her life to be believed
And to think the mods thought they had cleaned it up!
I too have read through the 'entire' thread and haven't found anything that vitriolic and hateful towards Diana, but I expect we all have different ways of reading things, depending on our mindset.
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Before we start descending into another round of vitriol, perhaps we could move on? skhaynie, if you think there are still posts around this thread which break our rule about insults and flames, please contact me by private message to discuss it.

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the concert is for to celebrate the diana's life and a very good moment to remenber her in an ''official'' way because in this 9 years all the 31 august the mass in kensington etc are without the boys, now we can, finally, remenber diana with her sons.
the memorial is another thing, but I think was time that william and harry working in their mother legacy, as I said before, in ter interview is very clear the support of william and hary top the diana princess of wales momerial fund, thing that we can't see before.
And is a good event to collect monay for the charity diana loved.

I think will be a great day, don't for be say, a day for enjoy the 36 years of life of diana and 15 years of work for us.
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I couldn't agree more with you Corazon. This concert is one of the best ways to honour her memory. And her all of her fans will have a great time remebering her with such an enjoyable event. To the people who don't like the idea of the concert, no one is forcing you to go or to watch it on t.v.
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To the people who don't like the idea of the concert, no one is forcing you to go or to watch it on t.v.
of course , will be a day to celebrete and remember her with happines
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And why must the Princes' have (or need) a motive other than to remember their mother in a way they feel appropriate and fitting? It would seem they don't.

This is something they feel strongly about and obviously recognise the connection and impression Diana had with the wider public (not all of course), both in Britain and abroad. Making it a communal event is something which greatly embraces the memory of their late mother.

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