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Old 09-02-2013, 02:44 AM
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I do believe that they did cover all the bases, what they can't do is stop cheap opportunists from creating more so call "scoops". These are not the result of intense journalistic research but rather the result of fertile imaginations fertilized by so-call "Newspapers".
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Old 09-02-2013, 06:00 AM
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There have been so many investigations and research - both by officials (specialists in France and UK) and inofficial by journalists,there ain´t going to be any new findings to this case.
The accident has been thoroughly investigated IMO,but some people find it difficult to accept the facts.
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Old 09-02-2013, 02:10 PM
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...if the British and French courts did their jobs correctly, maybe these issue would have been looked at then and not NOW.
Most of these alleged "issues" were covered in the various inquests, it's just that some people for their own reasons refuse or are unable to accept the facts.

The initial plan for Diana and Dodi on that fateful night was to stay at the Ritz. However, it was decided at the last minute to instead go to the former home of the Duke and Duchess of Windsor. Meaning that the assassination plot involving the "phalanx" of vehicles [motor bike, black car, white Fiat] would have had to know the destination, the intended route, the speed at which the Fayed vehicle would be travelling, and the nature of the vehicle itself (weight, mass, strength etc). Armed with this intelligence, they would have had to calculate the physics and rehearse and fine-tune the dynamics of ramming a large car travelling at speed so that it hit and bounced off the side of the Alma tunnel at the precise angle to run head-on into a support column with sufficient impact force to kill the back seat passengers. As they weren't a suicide squad the assassins would have had to ensure that they remained unscathed before, during and immediately after the high speed precision manoeuvres required to successfully complete the mission. Finally, they had to get themselves into position and do the deed.

All of this within real time of 30 minutes or so? Yeah, sure.
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Old 09-02-2013, 02:38 PM
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It is no use explaining the facts to some people. They will never accept that a young and beautiful princess could have gotten into a car that would be driven by a man under the influence, at high speed, without wearing a seat belt, and get into an ordinary car accident and die as the result of the accident. Things like that only happen to mere mortals.
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Old 09-02-2013, 03:11 PM
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I do believe that they did cover all the bases, what they can't do is stop cheap opportunists from creating more so call "scoops". These are not the result of intense journalistic research but rather the result of fertile imaginations fertilized by so-call "Newspapers".
You said the word Marg "opportunists"...
August,Slow news days, a film about Diana is out and surprise surprise there are some kind of new "elements" about her death....
Judging by some comments here and there, there's obviously a public for these kind of "scoops". I don't see why these so called newspapers would refrain themselves : it works perfectly.
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Old 09-02-2013, 03:16 PM
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Most of these alleged "issues" were covered in the various inquests, it's just that some people for their own reasons refuse or are unable to accept the facts.

The initial plan for Diana and Dodi on that fateful night was to stay at the Ritz. However, it was decided at the last minute to instead go to the former home of the Duke and Duchess of Windsor. Meaning that the assassination plot involving the "phalanx" of vehicles [motor bike, black car, white Fiat] would have had to know the destination, the intended route, the speed at which the Fayed vehicle would be travelling, and the nature of the vehicle itself (weight, mass, strength etc). Armed with this intelligence, they would have had to calculate the physics and rehearse and fine-tune the dynamics of ramming a large car travelling at speed so that it hit and bounced off the side of the Alma tunnel at the precise angle to run head-on into a support column with sufficient impact force to kill the back seat passengers. As they weren't a suicide squad the assassins would have had to ensure that they remained unscathed before, during and immediately after the high speed precision manoeuvres required to successfully complete the mission. Finally, they had to get themselves into position and do the deed.

All of this within real time of 30 minutes or so? Yeah, sure.
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....And let us not forget that Paul had been given the night off. He went home, relaxed, had a glass or two (or three, or four - who knows) just to be called back to drive. Many were saying he was overly giddy (maybe too sure of himself ?) to outmaneuver the following paparazzi.
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Her wedding band was made from welsh gold given to the Windsor's, as she was "princess of wales" The Blue sapphire and Diamond ring went to her sons, and the first to marry gets to give it to his new wife. William got married first, so The blue sapphire and diamond engagement ring Charles gave Diana is now Kate Middletons.
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Its extremely obvious that Diana and Dodi were Murdered. Look at the extent of which they have gone to cover up their mess. You don't have to dig to deep to realize what happened. And new evidence has surfaced this year (2013) saying the SAS, MI5, MI6 where involved. Diana said that she would be killed so Charles could marry again. What happened? He married Camilla. (gross) But really. Everything she knew, and said has come to pass. Also, she made complete governments her enemies, by single handedly convincing leaders to do the Ottawa treaty to ban landmines. The arms sales and dealers would have lost out on a ton of money, they benefit from war, suffering and killing. She was a global force for good. She was about to expose many in her own government of arms dealing. Just read into it. Its out there, and if anyone has any questions or would like to discuss anything im here. and would gladly send you some links and information as needed.
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Its extremely obvious that Diana and Dodi were Murdered. Look at the extent of which they have gone to cover up their mess. You don't have to dig to deep to realize what happened. And new evidence has surfaced this year (2013) saying the SAS, MI5, MI6 where involved. Diana said that she would be killed so Charles could marry again. What happened? He married Camilla. (gross) But really. Everything she knew, and said has come to pass. Also, she made complete governments her enemies, by single handedly convincing leaders to do the Ottawa treaty to ban landmines. The arms sales and dealers would have lost out on a ton of money, they benefit from war, suffering and killing. She was a global force for good. She was about to expose many in her own government of arms dealing. Just read into it. Its out there, and if anyone has any questions or would like to discuss anything im here. and would gladly send you some links and information as needed.
Thanks for that! I needed a laugh!
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Thanks for that! I needed a laugh!
I Have too Agree. The above claims are false and laughable.

There is no evidence at all that Prince Charles or anyone else murdered Diana and Dodi. Claims like those are false and bs. None of the Royals are capable of doing such things. The establishment has nothing to do with it.

People's need to face the face that Diana tragically died in a car accident. No one was wearing seatbelts and the driver was drunk and going to fast . She was not murdered.
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:03 PM
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Its extremely obvious that Diana and Dodi were Murdered. Look at the extent of which they have gone to cover up their mess. You don't have to dig to deep to realize what happened. And new evidence has surfaced this year (2013) saying the SAS, MI5, MI6 where involved. Diana said that she would be killed so Charles could marry again. What happened? He married Camilla. (gross) But really. Everything she knew, and said has come to pass. Also, she made complete governments her enemies, by single handedly convincing leaders to do the Ottawa treaty to ban landmines. The arms sales and dealers would have lost out on a ton of money, they benefit from war, suffering and killing. She was a global force for good. She was about to expose many in her own government of arms dealing. Just read into it. Its out there, and if anyone has any questions or would like to discuss anything im here. and would gladly send you some links and information as needed.
This is a very strange assumption. I am afraid you are reading something into this case that is not there.
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:06 PM
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The arms sales and dealers would have lost out on a ton of money, they benefit from war, suffering and killing.

One of the biggest arms dealers then was the Khashoggi family - who are they you ask? They are close relatives to the Al Fayeds as Samira Khashoggi was Dodi's mother and Adnan Khashoggi was his uncle (Samira and Adnan were brother and sister). He was the main man involved in the Iran-Contra scandal as the money man behind the sale of the arms.

So the family with most to lose from Diana and her 'land-mines' crusade (and she wasn't the person who had the Ottawa accord - that was the people who had been working on the cause for years and years rather than the new person on the block in 1997) was actually Dodi's own family.

Killing a person via a car accident is not a sure way of committing murder.
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:07 PM
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Its extremely obvious that Diana and Dodi were Murdered. Look at the extent of which they have gone to cover up their mess. You don't have to dig to deep to realize what happened. And new evidence has surfaced this year (2013) saying the SAS, MI5, MI6 where involved. Diana said that she would be killed so Charles could marry again. What happened? He married Camilla. (gross) But really. Everything she knew, and said has come to pass. Also, she made complete governments her enemies, by single handedly convincing leaders to do the Ottawa treaty to ban landmines. The arms sales and dealers would have lost out on a ton of money, they benefit from war, suffering and killing. She was a global force for good. She was about to expose many in her own government of arms dealing. Just read into it. Its out there, and if anyone has any questions or would like to discuss anything im here. and would gladly send you some links and information as needed.
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Killing a person via a car accident is not a sure way of committing murder.
Oh, but clearly there's a conspiracy here. Diana couldn't have died from a car accident caused by reckless driving, high speeds, alcohol, and not wearing a seatbelt.

Oh! I know! Clearly someone must have secretly paid Henri Paul to go on a kamikaze-style drive and kill everyone in the car. /sarcasm
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:29 PM
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Oh, but clearly there's a conspiracy here. Diana couldn't have died from a car accident caused by reckless driving, high speeds, alcohol, and not wearing a seatbelt.

Oh! I know! Clearly someone must have secretly paid Henri Paul to go on a kamikaze-style drive and kill everyone in the car. /sarcasm
Ah but if we're going to get to the heart of this conspiracy, we'd have to look good and hard at the person who was calling the shots and changing plans at the last minute. Oh wait... that'd be Dodi Al Fayed with maybe his daddy as co-conspirator. I really don't think he'd plot his own murder now would he? Nor his daddy.
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The idea that they were murdered really doesn't stack up when you remember the total disarray of arrangements that evening - with them changing their plans at the last minute but if it was murder Diana wasn't the target if you look at things carefully:

Started at an Al Fayed owned hotel
Going to an Al Fayed owned hotel
Car was owned by Al Fayed
Driver was an Al Fayed employee
Security was provided by Al Fayed
Decisions were being made by the Al Fayeds senior and junior

For anyone outside the Al Fayed set up to get the details of what they were doing with enough time to set up a murder would take a lot of luck. If someone wanted to take her out there were way better chances given her very public schedule when she wasn't in such a choatic situation as she was that night.
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Ah but if we're going to get to the heart of this conspiracy, we'd have to look good and hard at the person who was calling the shots and changing plans at the last minute. Oh wait... that'd be Dodi Al Fayed with maybe his daddy as co-conspirator. I really don't think he'd plot his own murder now would he? Nor his daddy.
Maybe the Fayeds were behind it all. Take out Diana because she was going up against the arms trade and therefore was bad for business. Dodi's father's reaction and continuous claim that there was a conspiracy is a set up to take suspicion away from himself. The plan backfired a bit because Dodi wasn't supposed to die too.
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Its extremely obvious that Diana and Dodi were Murdered. Look at the extent of which they have gone to cover up their mess. You don't have to dig to deep to realize what happened. And new evidence has surfaced this year (2013) saying the SAS, MI5, MI6 where involved. Diana said that she would be killed so Charles could marry again. What happened? He married Camilla. (gross) But really. Everything she knew, and said has come to pass. Also, she made complete governments her enemies, by single handedly convincing leaders to do the Ottawa treaty to ban landmines. The arms sales and dealers would have lost out on a ton of money, they benefit from war, suffering and killing. She was a global force for good. She was about to expose many in her own government of arms dealing. Just read into it. Its out there, and if anyone has any questions or would like to discuss anything im here. and would gladly send you some links and information as needed.
You're making her sound a bit like Jesus.
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You're making her sound a bit like Jesus.
Well, look what happened to him!
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You're making her sound a bit like Jesus.
I am sure Diana will alert the press when it is time for the Resurection.
That will after all be the photo op to end all photo ops and once again guarantee her front page coverage which she so loved.


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