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Old 08-17-2013, 03:57 PM
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Diana did not wear her seat belt because she was an emotional thinker and her mind was full of new thoughts. She didn't operate with rational linearity. Probably why she couldn't adjust to Charles, who is a rational linear thinker. Or so it seems to me at the great distance from which I observe them.

If the information comes from relatives of Trevor Rhys-Jones' it is likely to be worth considering just for this reason: Trevor was IN the car which Diana died in. The information should be looked into. It may be too tenuous to prove a case for or against. And then must be dropped. But has to be considered. Too bad, not a good situation for the families, including the Spencers.
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Old 08-17-2013, 03:57 PM
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In their 2007 interview, William & Harry stated that they don't think they will ever know the truth about what really happened that night and they still wonder about it and have questions.

I know the boys probably don't want this stuff to come up again but I do think they privately want answers and I think they deserve to know what really happened that night in Paris. I hope any new info could be of some help.
I thought that the 2007 interview was before the outcome of the 2007/8 Inquest (which used evidence from the Paget Inquiry). In which case we dont know if that statement is still relevant.

Inquest result on 7th April 2008

Verdict from the Inquest (quote from BBC)

At the inquest into their deaths, the jury found the couple had been unlawfully killed and the deaths were the result of "gross negligence" on the part of Mr Paul and the paparazzi.

The paparazzi pursuit, Mr Paul's drink-driving and a lack of seatbelts contributed to the deaths, the jury said.

The inquest lasted more than three months and heard from 250 witnesses.
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Old 08-17-2013, 04:05 PM
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I thought that the 2007 interview was before the outcome of the 2007/8 Inquest (which used evidence from the Paget Inquiry). In which case we dont know if that statement is still relevant.

Inquest result on 7th April 2008

Verdict from the Inquest (quote from BBC)

At the inquest into their deaths, the jury found the couple had been unlawfully killed and the deaths were the result of "gross negligence" on the part of Mr Paul and the paparazzi.

The paparazzi pursuit, Mr Paul's drink-driving and a lack of seatbelts contributed to the deaths, the jury said.

The inquest lasted more than three months and heard from 250 witnesses.
I think despite the inquest, William & Harry and probably both families still have questions about that horrible night. They of course knew about the Inquest and the verdict but I believe the boys when they said that they don't think they will ever know the full truth about those events. I think the samething. I think Dodi's father and even his team did something wrong that night and to cover up their own wrong doing, they pointed fingers to others.
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Old 08-17-2013, 04:06 PM
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Oh, good grief.

I was just staring at her face, once again on the cover of People. Now I'm reading this.

Let's face it, it's only a matter of time before she's exhumed.
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Old 08-17-2013, 04:07 PM
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I agree, Diana should've worn her seatbelt. She always had a habit of wearing one and used to make sure William & Harry had theirs on when she and Charles took them out and about. Diana also used to wear her seatbelt when she was taken to official engagements as well. On that night in Paris, she didn't have it on for some reason.

That whole night was very fishy to me.
The fact that she usually wore a seatbelt is very strong evidence that it was not a planned assassination. In any case, no real professional would stage an accident with a car that was pursued by another car filled with photographers. Dodi had changed the plans several times that night and virtually no one knew the route they were taking in advance.

There is no mystery about her death: She wasn't wearing a seatbelt and the driver was drunk and driving like an idiot. The only real mystery is how the driver of the Fiat Uno was able to keep control. Thankfully no other car was involved. If Diana and Dodi had lived, they may have been up on criminal charges.
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Old 08-17-2013, 04:13 PM
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Well, Diana did survive the crash for a couple of hours but I think even if she had lived, I don't think she would've been the same. I think her injuries were pretty bad internally.

Although, I would like to see the truth come out. It could be a scary truth and I'm so sure that us humans can handle those very scary truths.
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Old 08-17-2013, 04:19 PM
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Well, Diana did survive the crash for a couple of hours but I think even if she had lived, I don't think she would've been the same. I think her injuries were pretty bad internally.

Although, I would like to see the truth come out. It could be a scary truth and I'm so sure that us humans can handle those very scary truths.
The truth is out there - you just dont agree with IMO
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Old 08-17-2013, 04:25 PM
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The truth is out there - you just dont agree with IMO
Yes, there are some truths out but are they're all out?
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Dman, what truth do you think is out there that we don't know about?
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Old 08-17-2013, 04:51 PM
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I don't think we need a coven at Althrop to resurrect this poor woman; rumors, rehashed conspiracy theories and "new information" are already succeeding! It was only a matter of time before this subject was brought up again; as someone mentioned upthread, perhaps just in time for some Diana movie publicity?
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Old 08-17-2013, 04:52 PM
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Just the truth about everything surrounding that whole Paris getaway and even that night. Something wasn't right about all of that, IMO.

I think even after the inquest some where saying that some questions and even evidence remained and wasn't entered.
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Old 08-17-2013, 05:07 PM
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Just went through the DM article's comments page..
And saw..still 1000s of people believe that the "Establishment" has got Diana killed..And they just say that there will never be any evidence for this..
Really dont know what to say about this..
BTW does Scotland Yard announce each and every tip-off they receive day in and day out..
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Old 08-17-2013, 05:21 PM
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I never believed that the "Establishment" had anything to do with Diana's passing. Can only change my mind with actual and factual hard evidence.
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Just the truth about everything surrounding that whole Paris getaway and even that night. Something wasn't right about all of that, IMO.

I think even after the inquest some where saying that some questions and even evidence remained and wasn't entered.
Well, yes, that is the subject, but I was hoping for a little more detail.

What in particular wasn't right about all of it?
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Old 08-17-2013, 05:30 PM
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Well, yes, that is the subject, but I was hoping for a little more detail.

What in particular wasn't right about all of it?
I don't know, just the fact Diana was there in Paris without the proper security detail. The situation between Diana & Dodi, mohamed al fayed's motives and etc. I just think it was a crazy set of events on reflection.
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Old 08-17-2013, 05:36 PM
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Dianas death saga is going to be like JFKs. Every decade or so some new "evidence" will appear, another inquiry will be called for and the result will be the same: drunk driver, high speed, crash, passengers not wearing seat belts, resultant deaths. The conspiracy theorists will go on claiming cover up. It will become a mini industry.
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People's saying that the Royals Murdered Diana is Ridiculous and ludicrous as well one of the most dumbest things said about the death of Diana. The Royal Family is incapable of doing such a thing (this is not the 1600s ) for Obvious Reasons. Some of The members of the Royal Family may not have like some of the things she did or said but they did not hate her, Hate is too harsh of a word some may have have dislike her but I don't think any hated her or dislike her enough to such a thing. Diana and Charles were on good terms when she died, They were becoming friends and were planning a trip when she got back from Paris. Diana exchanged correspondents with Philip after the Separation/Divorce.

Not much is exactly known about Diana relationship with The Queen but I imagine it was like any other typical Mother-In-Law/Daughter-In-Law Relationship especially when there is a Divorce is involve but their relationship was more unique because of who they were and being the most famous women's in the land. I imagine The Queen wasn't happy about everything Diana did or said. How they got along or if they like each other has never been clearly stated and probably never well. I imagine that she like Diana better then Sarah. She has came to accept Camilla and she is close to Sophie.

But anyway back to my point Diana was The Mother of William and Harry and The Royal Family knew that and accepted it, There was nothing they could do about that! By killing Diana they would have been Refusing the Boys a Mother and they would have not done that. They knows how much the Boys loved their mother and how much Diana adored them. They would have also been putting the monarchy in Great Danger and would have been a risky thing to do. They know the boys needed their mother.

None of then are perfect as they ate like the rest of us but they are not evil like some say or want to Believe.
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Old 08-17-2013, 05:45 PM
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People's saying that the Royals Murdered Diana is Ridiculous and ludicrous as well one of the most dumbest things said about the death of Diana. The Royal Family is incapable of doing such a thing (this is not the 1600s ) for Obvious Reasons. Some of The members of the Royal Family may not have like some of the things she did or said but they did not hate her, Hate is too harsh of a word some may have have dislike her but I don't think any hated her or dislike her enough to such a thing. Diana and Charles were on good terms when she died, They were becoming friends and were planning a trip when she got back from Paris. Diana exchanged correspondents with Philip after the Separation/Divorce.

Not much is exactly known about Diana relationship with The Queen but I imagine it was like any other typical Mother-In-Law/Daughter-In-Law Relationship especially when there is a Divorce is involve but their relationship was more unique because of who they were and being the most famous women's in the land. I imagine The Queen wasn't happy about everything Diana did or said. How they got along or if they like each other has never been clearly stated and probably never well. I imagine that she like Diana better then Sarah. She has came to accept Camilla and she is close to Sophie.

But anyway back to my point Diana was The Mother of William and Harry and The Royal Family knew that and accepted it, There was nothing they could do about that! By killing Diana they would have been Refusing the Boys a Mother and they would have not done that. They knows how much the Boys loved their mother and how much Diana adored them. They would have also been putting the monarchy in Great Danger and would have been a risky thing to do. They know the boys needed their mother.

None of then are perfect as they ate like the rest of us but they are not evil like some say or want to Believe.
I think the entire royal family were shocked and saddened just like everyone else over Diana's passing. I think The Queen Mother said that she never thought she would've been going to Diana's funeral but Diana going to hers. It was a very sad and emotional time for the family. They've seen their share of tragedy.
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Dianas death saga is going to be like JFKs. Every decade or so some new "evidence" will appear, another inquiry will be called for and the result will be the same: drunk driver, high speed, crash, passengers not wearing seat belts, resultant deaths. The conspiracy theorists will go on claiming cover up. It will become a mini industry.
Hopefully it won't be as intense as all that - JFK was very obviously assassinated, and there are some real questions there, whereas with Diana, I think most people can see that it was just a horrible accident that was a result of a lot of poor judgment. If the police have legitimate evidence to the contrary, then by all means I hope they investigate it, but having it publicly brought forth like this is extremely unfortunate (especially as this is such a happy time with the arrival of Prince George). It just seems like fuel is being added to a fire that isn't really there. I hope that this particular new evidence isn't something that's dragged out for too long.
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Agreed. That's why it seems strange to me that they released it. Well, no one can accuse them of "cover-up" anyway.
This exactly. But then again does anyone remember back in 2011 when the French court re-opened the case?

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French court reopens Princess Diana's death case: Report - Times Of India

I wonder whatever happened with this. We heard nothing more about it afterwards
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