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Old 07-05-2013, 10:57 AM
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And lets not forget the Spencer's have more Royal blood than the Windsor's do. .
That has got to be one of the silliest claims ever. No matter how often it gets repeated it still makes me laugh. What nation has the House of Spencer ever reigned over? Which reigning monarchs are they cousins to? It would seem that the House of Windsor and their ancestors have reigned over Britain for 1000 years but I have never seen a Spencer on the list of British monarchs. We have certainly seen members of the BRF married to foreign monarchs but I dont think we have seen a member of the House of Spencer married off to a foreign monarch. Certainly until the last 60 years when rules startyed tp relax on the continent it is unlikely any of the continental royals would have considered the daughter of an English earl as "equal" nor allowed them to marry the heir to a continental throne.
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Old 07-05-2013, 09:20 PM
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And lets not forget the Spencer's have more Royal blood than the Windsor's do.
Identifying any royal blood in the Spencers is easy - Stuart, Tudor, Plantagenet, Norman - as they are direct descendents of Charles II and thus from those earlier English royal houses. But the Windsors are also a descendent of those same royal houses as descendents of James I and VI's daughter - namely Charles II's aunt.

They also have descent from the Hanoverians, the Schlessig-Holsteins, the Hessians, the Saxe-Coburgs, the Romanovs etc etc etc that didn't come into the English/British royal lines until the later marriages of the Hanoverians into the British royal house.

The claim of 'royal blood' and 'Stuart blood' comes about because people don't know the claim of the Hanoverians to the British throne and think that they were plucked from no where when in fact they were simply the first protestant descendents of James I and VI.


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Last, the idea that William would restore her HRH title. Lovely. That has never crossed my mind and just the thought of it. Wow. What a very cool thing that would be. Fingers crossed on that one!
William allegedly made that remark shortly after his parents' divorce while she was still alive. It might have made sense to have his mother with the rank of HRH once he was king, and she was alive, but to restore it to a dead woman would be rather strange. There would be no point. I don't think he would do so now for the simple reason that she has been gone for so long.
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Old 07-10-2013, 02:33 AM
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When Diana died, I went out and bought every single newspaper, magazine, EVERYTHING I could find. I'm in Los Angeles, so not only did Zi buy everything local, I had access to all the NY papers, etc. of course the magazines come out later. I'm getting ready to move and I don't think I can bring this box with me. Do you think this is something worth selling - do any of you think a collector would be interested? I'm going to post this another Diana forum, but in the meantime, I thought I'd ask here first. Any advice or comments would be appreciated. It's a regular file box, filled to the brim, carefully tended, and in excellent condition. The newspapers were all the first news editions of the tragedy. Thanks, Magdalene
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:08 AM
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I did the same thing as well as having my UK friends send me their versions also. I am sure one day the box of the lot will be worth something. But just yesterday I was pricing books on Ebay and it doesn't look good. Even all the stuff I bought when she got married is selling for a few bucks when I know I spent $10 - $18 per. I truly have a hoarde and want to keep key items for posterity and for the future when it really does become valuable. But for the most part, the excess I would like to toss. (or sell!)
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:17 AM
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Summer 1997 is filled with painful memories for everyone.
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:17 AM
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When Diana died, I went out and bought every single newspaper, magazine, EVERYTHING I could find. I'm in Los Angeles, so not only did Zi buy everything local, I had access to all the NY papers, etc. of course the magazines come out later. I'm getting ready to move and I don't think I can bring this box with me. Do you think this is something worth selling - do any of you think a collector would be interested? I'm going to post this another Diana forum, but in the meantime, I thought I'd ask here first. Any advice or comments would be appreciated. It's a regular file box, filled to the brim, carefully tended, and in excellent condition. The newspapers were all the first news editions of the tragedy. Thanks, Magdalene
If you don't want to keep the box, then you should certainly try selling it (with a reserve price - i.e. the minimum you will accept) on Ebay. I am quite sure someone will want to buy it! Good luck!
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Old 07-12-2013, 01:00 PM
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Thanks, everybody who answered! It's so strange - initially I bought everything in a state of shock and wanting some answers. Then I realized that maybe someday they might be worth something. NOW...they make me so sad and part of me wants to just close that whole event and not think about it and I would feel better if I knew someone who was really passionate about the history and life of Diana would want it and take care of it/and or appreciate it or use it. Before I list it on Ebay, if anybody here knows someone who would want it, I would give it to them. I live in California and in the US we can send boxes of literature "book rate." I don't know about the most cost efficient way to get things to Europe. If someone wants it from here, all I would ask is that they are really interested in Diana and that they would pay for the postage. Let me know, and in the meantime, thank you again for your answers!
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Old 07-12-2013, 01:23 PM
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Given that everything was mass produced I really doubt any of the Diana memorabilia will have any real value.
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Old 07-12-2013, 01:30 PM
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Concerning ancestral homes, I bumped into an old castle called Crookston Castle on the internet, the site of which says it was the first castle taken over by the National Trust. It is a stone castle which belonged to the Darnley Stuarts in the 15th century; before that incarnation it was a wood castle build by an ancestor of mine, Robert de Croc (12th century founder of Crookston, which is now a part of Glasgow). Only the original moat remains. There are several sites showing the 15th century stone castle, including interior video, which shows how gloomy and primitive such old castles could be. There is an elementary school called Crookston Castle Primary across the street. My Pollock ancestors lived in the area around Crookston Castle, which is now a "council house" area housing 30,000, from what I read (seems like a large population, but the views of the council house area, called Pollock, are extensive). My ancestor Robert de Pollock married the daughter of de Croc, Isabel, whose mother was Eschyna de Molle, who later married Walter Fitzallen, another neighbor who became well known as the first High Steward of Scotland.
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Old 07-12-2013, 01:35 PM
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And the connection to Diana's death, funeral would be ?????
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Thanks, everybody who answered! It's so strange - initially I bought everything in a state of shock and wanting some answers. Then I realized that maybe someday they might be worth something. NOW...they make me so sad and part of me wants to just close that whole event and not think about it and I would feel better if I knew someone who was really passionate about the history and life of Diana would want it and take care of it/and or appreciate it or use it. Before I list it on Ebay, if anybody here knows someone who would want it, I would give it to them. I live in California and in the US we can send boxes of literature "book rate." I don't know about the most cost efficient way to get things to Europe. If someone wants it from here, all I would ask is that they are really interested in Diana and that they would pay for the postage. Let me know, and in the meantime, thank you again for your answers!
I would very much like it if you don't mind. I live in Massachusetts
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Thanks, everybody who answered! It's so strange - initially I bought everything in a state of shock and wanting some answers. Then I realized that maybe someday they might be worth something. NOW...they make me so sad and part of me wants to just close that whole event and not think about it and I would feel better if I knew someone who was really passionate about the history and life of Diana would want it and take care of it/and or appreciate it or use it. Before I list it on Ebay, if anybody here knows someone who would want it, I would give it to them. I live in California and in the US we can send boxes of literature "book rate." I don't know about the most cost efficient way to get things to Europe. If someone wants it from here, all I would ask is that they are really interested in Diana and that they would pay for the postage. Let me know, and in the meantime, thank you again for your answers!
I believe that most of the Diana-souvenirs are not selling that good nowadays...but maybe you could give them to a person who is a Diana-fan,I am sure you will find someone in your area/among your friends? I would imagine they would be extremely happy about it and they would certainly treat your collected items with respect. Furthermore its seems to me that it would be more in Diana´s mindset to give the things to someone who really appreciates them than making money out of it. I do not know what you paid for all the stuff, but I would rather want to give my treasured collection to someone who appreciates it than selling it...Just my opinion,but of course you can do as you wish
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Old 07-13-2013, 02:38 PM
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I agree with you, Blauerangel, and I am very glad Hermoine here wants them. I will send them to her. I don't know anybody in my local area that is a Diana fan, so I thought I would find advice and interest here, which I did!!!
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With items relating to Diana, it seems like at times they sell really well and then not so well. Seems like it goes in cycles. The focus now seems to be on the royal baby, when the baby will be born, and what name the baby will be given.
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Just came across these Full Coverage videos and a lump formed in my throat by just watching it-






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Thanks for posting the videos. I stupidly watched them on you tube a while back and had monstrous lumps in my throat then too. Just like Dianas wedding, I had a friend come over at 3 am. We had an English breakfast, scones, orange juice in fluted glasses and tea. I guess I eat my sorrows! LOL! But it was when they made formation behind her coffin that I lost it. Absolutely lost it. My dad came stumbling into the living room and saw all the women sobbing at such an ungodly hour and said "Oh brother!" and went back to bed.
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Old 08-15-2013, 06:24 PM
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I know. It was and is such an incredibly tragic and poignant event, for many reasons. That whole week and more is indelibly etched on my mind.
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Paul Harrison ‏@SkyNewsRoyal 7m
#royal #BREAKING #Diana Scotland Yard confirms it has been passed information concerning the death of Diana, Princess of Wales

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#royal #BREAKING #Diana Scotland Yard say they are assessing credibility of the information, but are NOT reopening investig at this stage

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#royal #BREAKING #diana Met Police "the assent will be carried out by officers from the Specialist Crime and Operations Command"

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#royal #BREAKING sky sources say the new information - yet to be considered credible by Met Police - points to murder of #Diana

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#royal #Breaking #Diana "The Met Police is scoping info recently received in relation to the deaths & assessing its relevance & credibility.

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#royal #BREAKING #Diana - Met police add: "This is not a re-investigation and does not come under Operation Paget." (Paget: original invest)
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Old 08-17-2013, 12:46 PM
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I really do hope at some point the truth will come out.
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BREAKING NEWS: Met Police is passed new information about the deaths of Princess Diana and is 'assessing its relevance and credibility' | Mail Online
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