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Old 12-21-2010, 12:47 PM
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Can people visit her where she is buried?
As her grave site is at Allthorp, a private estate, I don't think so unless they are still opening up for the tours and it includes a visit to the island. Haven't heard anything in a long time but didn't they close the tours/museum at Allthorp?
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Old 12-21-2010, 12:51 PM
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I don't know that she ever said anything specific one way or another; I guess I was going by her comment that she wanted to be known as a "People's Princess."
Well, that seems in keeping with being buried in a more accessible place.
Maybe in time they do plan on moving her off that island to either the Spencer burial plot or perhaps somewhere more accessible. At the time of her death, I really think it made a lot of sense to inter her on the Spencer private estate of Allthorp. With the mass hysteria going on around that time, can you imagine if she was buried somewhere public? We would probably have seen chunks of Diana's gravestone and other such things going for high prices on Ebay and who knows where else.
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Old 12-21-2010, 01:51 PM
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I really hope the just leave her there, I could not think of them exuming her body to be moved somewhere else. Not to metion the stess it would cause her two sons.
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Old 12-21-2010, 03:35 PM
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Her will clearly says 'I wish to be buried' as Point 2 of her will. Point 1 appoints the executors of the will.

At the time of her death the original plan was for her to be buried with her father at the Althorp village church but the locals felt, rightly so I believe, that the consequent fanatical visitors would spoil their lifestyles and that the village simply wouldn't cope.

Lord Althorp agree and they decided on the island.

As for Westminster Abbey, I have been there and the place is packed with tombs etc. The authorities there have declared it full and they are the ones who know.

I am pleased that she is on an island away from the public who would never let her rest in piece if her tomb was accessible.
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The Abbey has lots of tombs, of course, but there's also plenty of space; that's evident if you just walk around the place. However, for some reason they did say there's no more room, so I suppose we'll have to wait and see if they change their minds in the future.

As for Diana resting in peace, I don't see why a more accessible burial place would prevent that. Naturally no one wants ghouls ripping away chunks of the masonry for souvenirs, but that wouldn't happen in a place like the Abbey anyway.

Still, what's done is done, and I don't foresee any changes in future. It just seems to me as if everyone wanted her tucked away out of sight and out of mind.
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Old 12-21-2010, 04:36 PM
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The Abbey has lots of tombs, of course, but there's also plenty of space; that's evident if you just walk around the place. However, for some reason they did say there's no more room, so I suppose we'll have to wait and see if they change their minds in the future.

On this we will have to disagree.

Having walked around it a number of times with 1000s of others and would like them to get rid of some of the tombs so that you can see the really important ones. The place is packed with them and you can't turn around for walking into tombs.

The primary purpose of the Abbey is as a place of worship and more tombs would mean fewer people could actually worship there.
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Old 12-21-2010, 04:57 PM
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Since at her death she was technically not a member of BRF could she even be buried at the Abbey? I thought only Kings and Queens and RF members could be but I may be way wrong about this-
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It is said that in 1892 there were, perhaps, 90 to 95 burial spaces left in the Abbey.
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The Tombs in Westminster Abbey
Henry W. Lucy
The North American Review
Vol. 154, No. 423 (Feb., 1892), pp. 245-249
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Old 12-21-2010, 05:16 PM
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Since at her death she was technically not a member of BRF could she even be buried at the Abbey? I thought only Kings and Queens and RF members could be but I may be way wrong about this-

Lots of other people have been buried there - writers and the like as well as people who have served the Abbey in some way e.g. Chaucer (no he isn't there as a writer but due to the position he held at the Abbey).

They offered Churchill a space there but he turned them down as he wanted to be buried with his wife at Bladon - and he is.
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Old 12-21-2010, 05:49 PM
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Lots of other people have been buried there - writers and the like as well as people who have served the Abbey in some way e.g. Chaucer (no he isn't there as a writer but due to the position he held at the Abbey).

They offered Churchill a space there but he turned them down as he wanted to be buried with his wife at Bladon - and he is.
Oh wow! Thanks for the info, I was way off.... I've only visited the Abbey once in 1998 so it's hard to remember everything- Thanks :)
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I've heard her real grave is at an unmarked spot and that the oval is just a little place to show that she is buried somewhere around that area. I've heard only her immediate family know the real spot but I dunno how much of that is true and I can't remember where I heard it. My god I actually just got depressed saying the word "buried" and "grave" IMO sometimes I still feel like she's still alive due to press interest even to this day.
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Old 12-21-2010, 07:25 PM
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I've heard her real grave is at an unmarked spot and that the oval is just a little place to show that she is buried somewhere around that area. I've heard only her immediate family know the real spot but I dunno how much of that is true and I can't remember where I heard it. My god I actually just got depressed saying the word "buried" and "grave" IMO sometimes I still feel like she's still alive due to press interest even to this day.
I read that to about Princess Diana's real grave ghost_night554.
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Royals wanted William and Harry in Princess Diana funeral cortege in bid to protect Charles from lynching | Mail Online

Not sure where to put this one - but here goes.

To me Charles walked to support his sons not the other way round. Charles wouldn't have walked at all except for them in my opinion.
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Royals wanted William and Harry in Princess Diana funeral cortege in bid to protect Charles from lynching | Mail Online

Alastair Campbell's take on why people walked - not because he was supporting his under-age sons who had lost their mother but the boys were walking to stop their father being lynched.
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Royals wanted William and Harry in Princess Diana funeral cortege in bid to protect Charles from lynching | Mail Online

Alastair Campbell's take on why people walked - not because he was supporting his under-age sons who had lost their mother but the boys were walking to stop their father being lynched.
Why bring this up now??
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Why bring this up now??

To be fair to the author it is part of his diary, which like many politicians, he is having written and is now being published.

I am sure that there is a lot more in Mr Campbell's book but this is the bit that the DM picked up on and chose to highlight.
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If the royal protection forces felt that they could not protect Charles as he walked in a funeral cortege, he would not have been in there.
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Not sure where to put this one - but here goes.

To me Charles walked to support his sons not the other way round. Charles wouldn't have walked at all except for them in my opinion.
I agree that the main reason Charles walked was to support his sons but I also feel that he walked out of respect for his ex wife. He clearly went above and beyond the call of duty as a ex husband flying to Paris and escorting her body back to the UK and that in itself shows me that he still retained feelings for Diana. If there was animosity towards Charles by the general population at the time, I wish they'd have realized this.
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Exactly, Thena. There was no need for anyone to walk behind the hearse. Besides, I don't think that the crowd was in the mood for a lynching. They just seemed to be very sad.


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I agree, it seems to be a ridiculous assertion that Campbell's making. If there was that much danger, no one would have walked.


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Alastair Campbell's take on why people walked - not because he was supporting his under-age sons who had lost their mother but the boys were walking to stop their father being lynched.
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