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08-03-2008, 06:03 AM
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As someone brought up in that world, I would imagine that Charles saw it as how things are; however he may have felt about Diana personally, he married her out of duty. His job was to provide continuity, an heir to the throne. That he picked a young, beautiful, incredibly photogenic, endearing bride is simply not an accident by any stretch of the imagination. He may well have loved her. Seeing early photos and footage of them would seem to indicate that if he didn't love qua love her, he certainly felt a very strong fondness for her, which was a happy accident. In the real world, royal marriages have historically been nothing about love. They have been about duty and alliance and not one thing more. That love arose from some of them is secondary to the main issue. Therefore, once the heir (and spare) had been begotten, most couples in such marriages took it as tacitly understood that they would undertake their own sexual and emotional affairs outside the marriage in order to fulfill the desire that most of us have to be wanted and to be loved. To put it another way: royal marriages, historically, are about contracts. They take lovers to deal with the emotional side of their lives. That either Charles or Diana had affairs is singularly unremarkable. I would suggest that you look at the history of royal and noble marriages if you disagree. That they both so publicly admitted them is what is astonishing. Moving back to the point... The Queen has been described--by one of her own sons, nonetheless--as having the best spy network within the Palace. He, and many staff, have commented that she knows everything. That she wouldn't have known about the Hewitt affair--or, indeed, the Camilla affair--simply beggars belief. It is possible that she wouldn't have told Charles, but extremely unlikely; after all, he has been groomed for the throne for almost 60 years now, which would obviously include understandings of how the world really is versus how he would wish it to be. The affair may have been kept secret from the public, but it is fundamentally impossible that it was kept secret from the Queen, her son, or the Grey Men of Westminster. 
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08-03-2008, 07:42 AM
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I guess, too that Charles knew about Hewitt. But what about Mannakee? Who really claims that Diana had an affair with him, a full-fledged affair, that is, not some emotional attachment only? Was this only a bad rumour or is there any proof? For if she had an affair with Mannakee, Charles was bound to know as at that time it affected the line of succession - I think if she had an affair with Mannakee, he was replaced and she was watched closely till she had given Charles heir (and probably spare, too). After that it was two who could play that game. But I have no doubt Charles was true to Diana as long as she enjoyed her maritial intercourse with him. But who knows how long that was? After all, she has had her first bulimia-attacks already during their honeymoon, so that doesn't seem to tell about a good start when it comes to intimacies...
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08-03-2008, 01:09 PM
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He seemed to be caught between the two worlds of old-style royal marriage and the more marriage for personal happiness; unfortunately for everybody concerned, he managed to end up with the worst of both worlds.
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08-04-2008, 06:10 AM
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08-04-2008, 07:04 AM
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Yes, but very few spouses are watched by as many people as those in the BRF.
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08-04-2008, 07:45 AM
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08-04-2008, 08:27 AM
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That is probably why Mannakee was reassigned. It would be very difficult to tell a man, even if he was your son, that his wife was 'playing around', especially for HM or even Charles' generation. Williams parentage they could be sure of, Harry I believe there will always be a doubt, especially if Hewitt's version regarding the start of the affair is accurate.
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08-04-2008, 09:00 AM
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I think some of the speculative comments here are in poor taste. What happened to facts and sources?
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08-04-2008, 09:08 AM
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I am sort of lost here. Was Manakee's and Diana's affaire happening that early in the marriage? Before the birth of the two princes?
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08-04-2008, 10:46 AM
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Mannakee was assigned to Diana in 1985, after Harry was born. Now let's get back on topic which is James Hewitt, not Barry Mannakee.
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08-06-2008, 02:38 PM
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Protection Unit for years before that promotion, claims Tina Brown.
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08-06-2008, 03:21 PM
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Maybe so, but dozens of other resources just as credible as Tina Brown's book all point to their affair beginning with his assignment to her personal protection in 1985 and this still has nothing to do with James Hewitt.
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08-31-2008, 11:55 AM
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 TV review: Rahly, this guy is too weird - New Zealand, world, sport, business & entertainment news on Stuff.co.nz (same article but with a few pics: Princess Diana Remembered : Rahly, this guy is too weird) If you watch all these vids, it's like you're seeing a different man. Who could imagine him doing such things when you listen how he sincerely talks about her; you don't do this to someone you love/have loved. Tracy interviews James Hewitt - ninemsn Video SkyCast - Video - Diana Years: The Affair Part 1 SkyCast - Video - Diana Years: The Affair Part 2 SkyCast - Video - Diana Years: The Affair Part 3
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08-31-2008, 02:00 PM
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He had an affair with a married woman out of SELFLESSNESS? Come on, who's he kidding?!
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08-31-2008, 02:53 PM
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Well that's what he says, as he said they first kissed in 1982
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08-31-2008, 10:00 PM
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Was that when she was pregnant or when she was suffering from post-natal depression?
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09-01-2008, 09:00 AM
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. Poor Diana....