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I don't think their breakup had anything to do with Diana's education, or lack thereof. From what I have read, he ended the relationship.
I think it is quite possible that Diana's lack of education could have been a factor Dr Khan took into account when he decided to end the relationship. He had two years or so to assess how she would fit into his lifestyle - and I am quite sure that he would have wanted her to fit into his, rather than the other way around - and it may be that Diana just did not fit into his circle of family, friends and colleagues, and that could have been partly because of her limited education.

We don't know for sure and never will, because I am sure Dr Khan is too much of a gentleman to ever talk about it, but we do have some knowledge of how Diana changed aspects of Charles' life because they did not suit her. I am sure that if he had two years to get to know her, Charles would not have proposed.

Maybe Diana tried to persuade Dr Khan to meet less with certain friends or professional colleagues because she found them boring, or maybe she wasn't prepared to meet with them at all. Maybe she refused to show any interest in subjects in which he was profoundly interested. Maybe he found the things that interested her to be extremely boring. It's all maybes, but I believe that a prospective partner's intellectual interests and abilities can definitely influence one's choices about that person as a long term partner no matter how physically attractive they are and no matter how popular they are in their own circle.
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Old 01-24-2011, 04:53 PM
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Diana ended the relationship and never seriously wanted to convert to Islam. She was rather curious about other religions. She broke it off with him because she had lost interest in him. He admits she broke it off but he says it was because of Dodi Al Fayed. It wasn't because when Diana said there was no one else, she meant it. She and Dodi were merely friends and Trevor Rees Jones and Wes Wingfield, the bodyguards when the two were together, have verified it wasn't a romance.

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She had simply decided to move on.

BTW, you can tell by Diana's handwritten letters that she was well educated, even though not a swot. Her priorities were always in helping others. People were always drawn to her warmth and sense of fun.

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However, she showed a particular talent for music as an accomplished pianist.[7] Her outstanding community spirit was recognised with an award from West Heath. In 1977, at the age of 16, she left West Heath and briefly attended Institut Alpin Videmanette, a finishing school in Rougemont, Switzerland. At about that time, she first met her future husband, who was then dating her eldest sister, Lady Sarah. Diana reportedly excelled in swimming and diving, and longed to be a professional ballerina with the Royal Ballet. She studied ballet for a time, but then grew to 5'10", far too tall for the profession.
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So she would have something in common with those who devote their lives to the well being of others, such as someone in medicine.
All the changes Diana made in Charles' life were to his betterment, such as giving him two sons and helping be more in touch with the people. He didn't really give anyone or anything up for her, it was quite the other way about until she decided to make some choices of her own which included spending time with some of her own friends, not just his.
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Old 01-25-2011, 03:53 AM
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I was under the impression that Diana was given unique precedence that befitted her position as the mother of the future King so she wouldn't have only had the precedence of a daughter of a British earl.
She had that precedence in certain moments when together with the Royals for certain events in William and Harry's lifes. I doubt she would have brought Dr. Khan along with her to those occasions, though.
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Old 01-25-2011, 04:43 AM
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She had that precedence in certain moments when together with the Royals for certain events in William and Harry's lifes. I doubt she would have brought Dr. Khan along with her to those occasions, though.
And in all honesty, from what I've read, I seriously doubt Dr. Khan would have gone. It is my understanding that Dr. Khan is/was a very private person and it was the media's attention towards Diana that he really disliked. About education. With Dr. Khan and Diana being "involved" for two years, its been noted that Diana really had a genuine interest in what he did and read and learned about he was involved with.
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She had that precedence in certain moments when together with the Royals for certain events in William and Harry's lifes. I doubt she would have brought Dr. Khan along with her to those occasions, though.
If she had married him I would have expected her husband to accompany them, just as Camilla accompanies their father now.
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Old 01-25-2011, 07:19 AM
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If she had married him I would have expected her husband to accompany them, just as Camilla accompanies their father now.
In the case of a marriage, the few occasions where she would attend royal functions, I most certainly think he'd be at her side. I really don't see them as a married couple as having attending many royal functions other than family weddings and funerals.
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Old 01-25-2011, 01:24 PM
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Khan is a moot point given he admits she dropped him unceremoniously in the park.

Had she remarried , her husband would have certainly appeared with her much of the time at family events.
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I wonder if Diana had any regrets in her life, whether about Khan or anything else?
It's easy to say she must have regretted marrying Charles, but did she really?
It made her a worldwide icon.

I never thought she was serious about Khan- or about Dodi.
In the circles in which she grew up, some things were simply "not done" and marrying one of them would probably fall into that category.

Sometimes I wonder if she regretted divorcing Charles, and wished she'd stayed and come to a rapprochement?
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Like every other human being on earth, I'm sure Diana did have regrets about things. I wouldn't think that she ever regretted marrying Charles as I believe she still loved him in a way up until the day she died and would never have ever regretted her two boys as they were the love of her life. No matter how bad the marriage got, they did share some wonderful happy times together and were proud parents. To quote Garth Brook's "The Dance": (one of my favorite tunes)

And now I'm glad I didn't know
The way it all would end the way it all would go
Our lives are better left to chance
I could have missed the pain
But I'd have had to miss the dance

On the other hand, I do think she was very serious about Dr. Khan. I think she saw in him a reflection of a person that she really wanted to be. One that sincerely dedicated himself to helping others. I think if it had worked out, she would have be very happy just being Mrs. Khan and faded into the background as a doctor's wife. I'm sure she had feelings for the others that came before Dr. Khan but they just weren't what she had been searching for. Dodi was a joke as far as a relationship as they really didn't know each other too well and I never once believed that they were as involved as the stories made them out to be.

With the family that she grew up in and watching her parent's marriage fall apart, Diana wanted to find a love that would last forever and live happily every after. Unfortunately it doesn't magically happen when you say "I do".
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I honestly can't imagine this happening. I can see her possibly marrying Khan, if he'd have her and her always-accompanying publicity; but I can't see her fading into the background in any way. For one thing, I think that she had a great need to draw attention to the causes she believed in. I think that she would have become dissatisfied with Khan, because doctors work very long hours. He wouldn't have been able to spend a lot of time with her; and I don't think that she could stand that.


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Old 01-28-2011, 09:27 PM
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I honestly can't imagine this happening. I can see her possibly marrying Khan, if he'd have her and her always-accompanying publicity; but I can't see her fading into the background in any way. For one thing, I think that she had a great need to draw attention to the causes she believed in. I think that she would have become dissatisfied with Khan, because doctors work very long hours. He wouldn't have been able to spend a lot of time with her; and I don't think that she could stand that.

I am with you on this one. No way would Diana have faded into the background. She simply couldn't have lived without all the attention but also she was the mother of the future King and so it wan't an option.

However I don't think the marriage would have lasted as she was too demanding on men and I simply don't think she would appreciate the emergency calls at 3.00 am or the calls in the middle of dinner etc.
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I agree, I can't see Diana being the doctor's wife and being content to stay in the backround. She was too high profile and even though she protested about the attention she received from the press, she did thrive in it, when she wanted to.
Dr. Khan would have been the one having difficulty. It wouldn't have been easy being married to Diana as the media plus the paparazzi would be camped at the hospital and his medical office hoping for snaps of him. It would have been a nightmare for the doctor and his patients, let alone his patient's privacy. The doctor's schedule would have been an inconvenience for Diana since he would have call and leave if needed in the OR so he couldn't attend functions with her all the time. A marriage wouldn't have worked, Diana stated at one time that she would have converted to Islam, but I doubt it would have happened. (If they were to marry.)
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IMO, it wasn't just that she was the mother of the future king, but Diana would never wanted to fade into the background. Despite all the horrors the paparazzi put her through, she loved celebrity and being in the spotlight. Diana wasn't just a royal, she was star and that was what made her so important. If married Dr. Khan, she would have brought lots of publicity and donations to whichever cause he admired, but he that was the exact opposite of what he wanted. In order the be Mrs. Khan, she had would have to give up the one thing she always craved and had going for her: the spotlight.

We mention her parents' divorce scarring her, but remember, she was the overlooked youngest daughter in the family. Not to sound like Henry VIII, but I think she once said was suppose to be a boy. She had an elder brother who was stillborn. They needed a son to succeed the earldom and didn't even have a name ready when it turned out to be "another" girl. So even though her parents' divorce made her want a loving husband, she also craved attention due to the circumstances of her birth.
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In order the be Mrs. Khan, she had would have to give up the one thing she always craved and had going for her: the spotlight..
Why would she have to give up the spotlight? At her death she wanted to become an ambassador for Great Britain.


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We mention her parents' divorce scarring her, but remember, she was the overlooked youngest daughter in the family. Not to sound like Henry VIII, but I think she once said was suppose to be a boy. She had an elder brother who was stillborn. They needed a son to succeed the earldom and didn't even have a name ready when it turned out to be "another" girl. So even though her parents' divorce made her want a loving husband, she also craved attention due to the circumstances of her birth.
This thought EmpressRouge is very insightful about the circumstances of her birth. I think if Diana, Princess of Wales was in a loving relationship with her spouse the craved attention would be on him and not on press.
I think it would have to be a special man.
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Why would she have to give up the spotlight? At her death she wanted to become an ambassador for Great Britain
I would think the main reason would be that its often been stated that one thing Dr. Khan found negative about his relationship with Diana was all the publicity and media coverage that came with her. I think that is why we really know so little about Diana's relationship with Haznat. It was kept totally private and Dr. Khan says very little. I think I agree with the statement too that you made that if Diana was in a loving relationship, she'd totally focus on that rather than the public and the media. That's why I said she'd probably have very happily faded into the background as a doctor's wife except for occasions where she needed to be present for her sons.
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I think I agree with the statement too that you made that if Diana was in a loving relationship, she'd totally focus on that rather than the public and the media. That's why I said she'd probably have very happily faded into the background as a doctor's wife except for occasions where she needed to be present for her sons.
Definitely. I think you can see in her see it in the evolution of her fashion choices. In the early years of her marriage, she stuck with very tradition royal wardrobe and low heels so not to tower over Prince Charles. But as her marriage soured, her fashion choices became more daring and the stilettos came out. Perfect example: the low cut dress that knocked Charles off the front pages the morning after he admitted infidelity in an interview.

It was more than Dr. Khan who did not like the attention. His family did not approve of the publicity. Supposedly when she made charity visits to Pakistan (with friend Jemima Khan), she was trying to make a good impression on Dr. Khan's family, but to no avail.
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Let's stick to general information on Mr. Khan.

Since the couple did not marry and Diana did in fact die, its does not good to speculate the What If's?
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I greatly admire Princess Diana, however I cant help but feel so sorry for her in that she was never truly happy in love (when it came to spouses). From what I have gathered, it appears that Diana was deeply infatuated with Dr Khan, but unfortunately for her it did not work out. I do believe that Dr Khan was probably the most sincere and benevolent lover to enter her life, even after her death he did not disclose their intimate moments to make money even though it would not really hurt her. Contrast this to James Hewitt who sold his story knowing for sure that Diana would be hurt! What a disgusting character! For this, I respect Dr Khan greatly. With all due respect to Dr Khan, he was not exactly Brad Pitt but possessed a charming simplicity about him which indicated to me that Diana was not attracted to one's physical appearance or personal wealth but really the nature of their heart (excuse the pun). This convinces me that Diana's "relationship" with Dodi was probably just a casual romance to dissipate the sorrow of the breaking of this relationship. I personally would have liked to see Dr Khan and Diana celebrate their love through marriage because for me it would be the union of two very compatible people in that they both spent their working careers for the benefit of others. Also, it would have been good to see that their love for one another transcended the issues of cultural differences. It is indeed a very cruel irony that Diana who "wanted to give love [to everyone]" could never be the recepient of it herself. Also, I must admit I sympathise with Dr Khan aswell, perhaps if he was more confident in pursuing marriage, Diana would not have mixed with Dodi and she might be with us today as Dr Khan's wife. With Diana now gone I wish Dr Khan the very best with his new wife and I know Diana will look down on him very fondly.
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I greatly admire Princess Diana, however I cant help but feel so sorry for her in that she was never truly happy in love (when it came to spouses). From what I have gathered, it appears that Diana was deeply infatuated with Dr Khan, but unfortunately for her it did not work out. I do believe that Dr Khan was probably the most sincere and benevolent lover to enter her life, even after her death he did not disclose their intimate moments to make money even though it would not really hurt her. Contrast this to James Hewitt who sold his story knowing for sure that Diana would be hurt! What a disgusting character! For this, I respect Dr Khan greatly. With all due respect to Dr Khan, he was not exactly Brad Pitt but possessed a charming simplicity about him which indicated to me that Diana was not attracted to one's physical appearance or personal wealth but really the nature of their heart (excuse the pun). This convinces me that Diana's "relationship" with Dodi was probably just a casual romance to dissipate the sorrow of the breaking of this relationship. I personally would have liked to see Dr Khan and Diana celebrate their love through marriage because for me it would be the union of two very compatible people in that they both spent their working careers for the benefit of others. Also, it would have been good to see that their love for one another transcended the issues of cultural differences. It is indeed a very cruel irony that Diana who "wanted to give love [to everyone]" could never be the recepient of it herself. Also, I must admit I sympathise with Dr Khan aswell, perhaps if he was more confident in pursuing marriage, Diana would not have mixed with Dodi and she might be with us today as Dr Khan's wife. With Diana now gone I wish Dr Khan the very best with his new wife and I know Diana will look down on him very fondly.
You bring up some very very valid points.
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I greatly admire Princess Diana, however I cant help but feel so sorry for her in that she was never truly happy in love (when it came to spouses). From what I have gathered, it appears that Diana was deeply infatuated with Dr Khan, but unfortunately for her it did not work out. I do believe that Dr Khan was probably the most sincere and benevolent lover to enter her life, even after her death he did not disclose their intimate moments to make money even though it would not really hurt her. Contrast this to James Hewitt who sold his story knowing for sure that Diana would be hurt! What a disgusting character! For this, I respect Dr Khan greatly. With all due respect to Dr Khan, he was not exactly Brad Pitt but possessed a charming simplicity about him which indicated to me that Diana was not attracted to one's physical appearance or personal wealth but really the nature of their heart (excuse the pun). This convinces me that Diana's "relationship" with Dodi was probably just a casual romance to dissipate the sorrow of the breaking of this relationship. I personally would have liked to see Dr Khan and Diana celebrate their love through marriage because for me it would be the union of two very compatible people in that they both spent their working careers for the benefit of others. Also, it would have been good to see that their love for one another transcended the issues of cultural differences. It is indeed a very cruel irony that Diana who "wanted to give love [to everyone]" could never be the recepient of it herself. Also, I must admit I sympathise with Dr Khan aswell, perhaps if he was more confident in pursuing marriage, Diana would not have mixed with Dodi and she might be with us today as Dr Khan's wife. With Diana now gone I wish Dr Khan the very best with his new wife and I know Diana will look down on him very fondly.
RestinpeaceDiana beautifully written. I real agree with the parts that are bolded.

Just a cruel irony. Diana, Princess of Wales died because her heart got injuried in the accident. I read that Dr. Kahn wished he was there to save her.
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