Earl Spencer, Family and Althorp Museum - Page 3

princess olga · #41 01-06-2007, 11:28 PM

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Well he is the Earl Spencer. So didn't a large portion of the late Earl's estate go to him. I don't think he is rich like the Duke of Marlborough (he's the richest peer other than HM right) but he doesn't do too bad.

And really...I am thinking he has prenups (I assuming of course that those exist in England). But in all honestly, it sounds as if they are perfect for each other.

LOL I was thinking the exact same

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He leaves his 2nd wife less than what 2 months after she has their daughter and she leaves her fiancee of 11 years. I am going to with the belief that she is in love with him (though I am thinking she has never met anyone like him - jet setter and all that). When I heard that they had separated my first thought was of another woman...and I was hoping I was wrong..but alas it was not meant to be. Good for his older kids being disgusted with her arrival at Christmas. ..

Sounds like his kids, on the other hand, do have the kind of intact moral compass that he seems to be utterly lacking..

can't help but think of Diana, who I loved, but she did have in common with her brother that she wasn't above starting relationships with men that were already spoken for..witness Oliver O Hoare (sp?) the very married art dealer, or even Dodi, who she used as a tool to make Hasnat Khan jealous, while totally dismissing the fact Dodi had a fiancee when she got involved with him...
Not to speak ill about the dead or anything, but I have to say these <are> similarities between these Spencer siblings I can't help but notice..

**Zonk** · #42 01-06-2007, 11:39 PM

I think the parent's divorce played a LARGE LARGE role in Diana and Charle's relationships. We don't know much about Jane and Sarah's marriages...but they "appear" to be happy with their husbands and are very low key. But then again, they were fairly older when their parents divorced and handled it different.

Charles and Diana on the other hand were definiitely affected. In each of their relationships you can just see the emotional immaturity. In Diana's case it was unfortunate that she married into such a high profile family and to a man who couldn't express his emotions to her. In Charles, it appears that he doesn't respect women at all or at least his marriage vows.

And yes, the one thing Charles seems to do right is to either have good therapist for his children or marry women who know how to raise decent kids.

princess olga · #43 01-06-2007, 11:39 PM

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Princess Olga.....that article makes me question her motives. And yes, I know you can't believe everything you read in the papers. But it sounds like she is more taken with what he represents than him.

I completely agree although I gather from what I've read that the earl can be utterly charming. He's also pretty handsome to boot, so yes, it's easy to do the math and see why women go for him. (not to mention the weird-but-true fact that some US-ians tend to have an idiotic reverence for anyone with a British accent)

What I wonder is though, how can this Colleen woman live with herself knowing she tore away a man from his wife and infant? It comes across indeed as a calculated move, almost. Poor Caroline, indeed although in a way she could have counted on both hands that this moment would present itself sooner or later.

princess olga · #44 01-06-2007, 11:41 PM

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I think the parent's divorce played a LARGE LARGE role in Diana and Charle's relationships. We don't know much about Jane and Sarah's marriages...but they "appear" to be happy with their husbands and are very low key. But then again, they were fairly older when their parents divorced and handled it different.

yes that probably explains a large part of it

**Lady Jennifer** · #45 01-06-2007, 11:42 PM

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What I wonder is though, how can this Colleen woman live with herself knowing she tore away a man from his wife and infant? It comes across indeed as a calculated move, almost. Poor Caroline, indeed although in a way she could have counted on both hands that this moment would present itself sooner or later.

Probably because she lives (at least for now) in the US & does not have to see the effects of her actions (or his actions for that matter). She is thousands of miles away & I don't think this will make a huge blip on the US radar.

**Zonk** · #46 01-06-2007, 11:43 PM

I have heard that Charles can be very charming but its always the ending that leaves much to be desired.

In reference to Caroline, I am sure she didnt' see this coming. When they first got together, Ithought she was too normal for him but he appeared to have learned from his mistakes. Apparently, he fooled a lot of people. Who knows what he told Colleen. She needs to watch her back though and not marry him. As James Goldsmith said, when a man marries his mistress he creates a vacancy.

**Zonk** · #47 01-06-2007, 11:45 PM

Jennifer....this is big news in Dayton, OH. Not the only news, but it has received coverage. Check this out http://www.springfieldnewssun.com/n/...coleenweb.html .

**Lady Jennifer** · #48 01-06-2007, 11:50 PM

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Jennifer....this is big news in Dayton, OH. Not the only news, but it has received coverage. Check this out http://www.springfieldnewssun.com/n/...coleenweb.html .

OK, let me reword what I wrote

It will make a blip in Dayton & San Francisco, because thats where this woman is from & where she works. I still don't see this becoming a huge thing in the rest of the States. Unless she writes a tell all book.

**Zonk** · #49 01-06-2007, 11:53 PM

It might end up as a blurb in People...but you are right...no big media news. Okay...not to be negative...but I am calling the end of this relationship by mid Fall 2007. She will be at the memorial service as his date.

**Elspeth** · #50 01-06-2007, 11:55 PM

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OK, let me reword what I wrote

It will make a blip in Dayton & San Francisco, because thats where this woman is from & where she works. I still don't see this becoming a huge thing in the rest of the States. Unless she writes a tell all book.

Or unless she uses that gun.

Didn't he go off with mistresses when his first wife was pregnant? It seems he doesn't care for pregnant spouses or ones who have just given birth. If this Coleen wants to keep him, she'd better be using effective birth control.

princess olga · #51 01-06-2007, 11:58 PM

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I still don't see this becoming a huge thing in the rest of the States. Unless she writes a tell all book.

Oh my gosh! You are so right: fast forward a year or so from now. CNN's Larry King: "..and next up, dear viewers: The Ohio news woman who stole Princess Diana's brother, She's here in the studio to discuss her new book, "The Earl And Me." Right after these messages. Don't go away!"

**Lady Jennifer** · #52 01-06-2007, 11:59 PM

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Didn't he go off with mistresses when his first wife was pregnant? It seems he doesn't care for pregnant spouses or ones who have just given birth. If this Coleen wants to keep him, she'd better be using effective birth control.

Maybe he's not a fan of being with a woman (as in married) after she's been pregnant. Its not right, but its been known to happen.

**Zonk** · #53 01-07-2007, 12:05 AM

Very valid points.

He's like Elvis...Priscilla mentioned that after the birth of Lisa Marie things changed in their relationship.

Yes, Colleen needs to stay on that birth control. Or she is going to lose that man. I wouldn't order any monogrammed towels!

princess olga · #54 01-07-2007, 12:06 AM

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Or unless she uses that gun.

In which case, she'd have a lot of spare time to pen that book

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Didn't he go off with mistresses when his first wife was pregnant?

I'm not a psychologist, but there's definitely a pattern there indeed.

princess olga · #55 01-07-2007, 12:26 AM

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Yes, Colleen needs to stay on that birth control. Or she is going to lose that man. I wouldn't order any monogrammed towels!

LOL! My take is she'll lose him in time anyway, give it a year or two at most, and he'll get bored again and find someone new, I'd bet.

Jo of Palatine · #56 01-09-2007, 06:07 AM

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Very valid points.

He's like Elvis...Priscilla mentioned that after the birth of Lisa Marie things changed in their relationship.

Yes, Colleen needs to stay on that birth control. Or she is going to lose that man. I wouldn't order any monogrammed towels!

I guess for a career in the US media the title of countess and "Diana's sister-in-law" is enough - divorced or not. So I bet she wants to marry him, even if it lasts only 10 minutes or so....

Bella · #57 01-09-2007, 10:07 AM

This whole thing is news to me so I guess it didn't make any sort of blip on the East Coast.

Earl Spencer is a joke. It's a shame, too, 'cuz he could have maintained the respect he was given after Diana's death, but he chose a different path. Being the child of divorced parents ~ no matter how ugly the divorce was ~ is no excuse. He's an adult now with children of his own and he needs to step up and behave like an adult. Frankly, I feel the guy could def. benefit from some serious therapy sessions. I do feel badly for his children because his antics are highly embarrassing. I also feel he's an embarassment for his royal nephews, who I'm sure have little to do with him. This guy needs to straighten his act out before he loses all credibility.