The Royal Forums Coat of Arms


Join The Royal Forums Today
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
  #641  
Old 03-09-2014, 06:20 AM
Roslyn's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Tintenbar, Australia
Posts: 3,937
I totally agree with you, Marg. A very insensitive and indeed reprehensible act.

I can only wonder at the reasons she was having two versions of the same dish served at the event. How many other guests were there? If it was just Oprah or just a few others, her actions are even worse. Would it not have been better to have the chef design a recipe that was both tasty and low fat so all could eat the same thing?
__________________

__________________
"That's it then. Cancel the kitchen scraps for lepers and orphans, no more merciful beheadings, -- and call off Christmas!!!"
  #642  
Old 03-09-2014, 06:37 AM
Ish's Avatar
Ish Ish is offline
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 2,952
In my mind, it's made even worse given as Oprah's battle with her weight has been so public. It almost makes it seem like her comment - which in itself was a lie - was also a bit Mean Girls-esque of Diana.
__________________

  #643  
Old 03-09-2014, 06:50 AM
Iluvbertie's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Bathurst, Australia
Posts: 10,197
Marg - I totally agree.

Anyone who has struggled with their weight will see this for the act it is - a vicious nasty prank and not a joke at all. It says a lot about Diana's character as well and it isn't a nice view of her at all.
  #644  
Old 03-09-2014, 03:47 PM
roseroyal's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Rose Bush, United States
Posts: 5,214
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roslyn View Post
I totally agree with you, Marg. A very insensitive and indeed reprehensible act.

I can only wonder at the reasons she was having two versions of the same dish served at the event. How many other guests were there? If it was just Oprah or just a few others, her actions are even worse. Would it not have been better to have the chef design a recipe that was both tasty and low fat so all could eat the same thing?
It was just Oprah. Wasn't the only time Diana served guests high-fat food while she has low fat. I see no problem with it. Diana wanted to eat low-fat.
What is she supposed to do? Send a note with the invitation saying do you want the high-fat Or the low-fat version?
No one should have to ask permission to eat what they like in their own home. Diana liked lowfat. And if the low-fat version was rather bland, and you weren't sure if the guests would like it, you make two versions. Oprah can have what she likes in Oprah's house.
Diana was no saint, but all this fuss over tomato salad?
__________________
One of my friends is fundraising for and hoping to adopt at least 2 of the 3 of these special needs orphans. Please give/ help now!
Go to Reece's Rainbow, and donate torwards the adoption of Holland, Starr, and Grace- Ann!
My avatar is my RH- that is the exact RH I have in my heart constantly!
  #645  
Old 03-09-2014, 03:49 PM
Lenora's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Riga, Latvia
Posts: 2,288
This fuss is just stupid and makes no sense.
  #646  
Old 03-09-2014, 04:14 PM
Dman's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Midwest, United States
Posts: 11,475
The whole situation was no big deal at all and if you know Oprah, she likes good food and most likely wasn't bothered by any of it.

The reason why people are making a big deal about Diana and the food is because they are trying to make Diana and her memory look bad. She wasn't a saint but Diana had a good soul and wasn't trying to make anyone look or feel bad about their weight.

When Darren tell these stories, he tell them with a great deal of humor and fondness. He's not telling them in the mean way others love to turn it into.
__________________
"THE REAL POWER OF A MAN IS IN THE SIZE OF THE SMILE OF THE WOMAN SITTING NEXT TO HIM."

GENTLEMAN'S ESSENTIALS
  #647  
Old 03-09-2014, 04:17 PM
Roslyn's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Tintenbar, Australia
Posts: 3,937
Quote:
Originally Posted by roseroyal View Post
Diana wanted to eat low-fat.
This is the crux of it. Diana wanted low fat, so Diana made sure she got low fat.

Quote:
What is she supposed to do? Send a note with the invitation saying do you want the high-fat Or the low-fat version?
What she should have done was have consideration for her guest, who had a well-known problem with her weight. A kind person who had her guest's interests at heart would have had her fancy chef make something tasty and low in calories.

I think that what Diana actually did was quite vile, and her reply: "I just eat small portions and work out", served to both make herself look better and insult her guest, for it implied that she had the will-power and self-control to only eat small portions and to work out and that Oprah did not. And the fact it was a lie, anyway, makes it so much worse.
__________________
"That's it then. Cancel the kitchen scraps for lepers and orphans, no more merciful beheadings, -- and call off Christmas!!!"
  #648  
Old 03-09-2014, 04:24 PM
Gentry
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Karlovy Vary, Czech Republic
Posts: 73
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dman View Post

The reason why people are making a big deal about Diana and the food is because they are trying to make Diana and her memory look bad. She wasn't a saint but Diana had a good soul and wasn't trying to make anyone look or feel bad about their weight.

THIS! Bless you for this, dear Dman!
  #649  
Old 03-09-2014, 04:25 PM
Victorian-Dandy's Avatar
Gentry
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: York, United Kingdom
Posts: 83
When you have guests over for dinner you take into consideration their dietary needs or at least that is what I was brought up to do, to totally disregard them is just plain rude.
  #650  
Old 03-09-2014, 04:40 PM
roseroyal's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Rose Bush, United States
Posts: 5,214
When you're a guest in someone else's home, you eat what the hostess serves you.
Diana just couldn't assume Oprah wanted to eat low-fat.
Oprah never asked for low-fat.
@ Roslyn- I want to make sure I understand you correctly- you're saying that Diana should've served them both low-fat, and that her not doing so makes fun of Oprah's weight?
I respect your opinion. I even understand how you might have gotten that impression. But I disagree.
__________________
One of my friends is fundraising for and hoping to adopt at least 2 of the 3 of these special needs orphans. Please give/ help now!
Go to Reece's Rainbow, and donate torwards the adoption of Holland, Starr, and Grace- Ann!
My avatar is my RH- that is the exact RH I have in my heart constantly!
  #651  
Old 03-09-2014, 04:48 PM
Moonmaiden23's Avatar
Majesty
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Los Angeles, United States
Posts: 6,496
Diana had a mean streak and a dark side like many people, but she wasn't an evil person. I think the point of the article-from the view of the chef-was to demonstrate a mischievous sense of humor.

But I do understand why it falls rather flat and could be perceived as a rather unkind, even catty thing to do.
__________________
"Be who God intended you to be, and you will set the world on fire" St. Catherine of Siena
  #652  
Old 03-09-2014, 04:55 PM
Victorian-Dandy's Avatar
Gentry
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: York, United Kingdom
Posts: 83
Okay then, what if you are limited in what you can eat due to a special diet be it by choice, medical or even religious grounds.

Going by some of the comments on here, it's tough luck.

If I have Jewish guests, I serve kosher food.

Same if they are vegan

Likewise if they are diabetic or are celiac

To do otherwise is simply bad form.
  #653  
Old 03-09-2014, 04:58 PM
roseroyal's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Rose Bush, United States
Posts: 5,214
If there's a medical besides weight issue, or religious reasons, that's different
. I am never going to discriminate against A persons sacred beliefs. Nor do I want A diabetic going into A coma at my dinner table.
Now don't get me wrong, I have nothing against overweight people.
I will be friends with anyone, and treat them with respect, regardless of size.

But weight is a choice. Why should I have to give up what I like, simply to make them comfortable?

Dr. Khan's Family was Muslim. Diana was unaware that they could not eat pork. When she Served them pork, and realized her mistake, she made peanut butter and jelly. Is that the end of the world?
She and Oprah probably had dessert. Was that wrong?
I've never heard of A case where people got sick after eating Diana's food, and she dealt with a lot of people with medical restrictions.
If I was a guest in Diana's home, I would feel so honored, I wouldn't care about the food.

I recall reading ,Oprah went to KP , for two reasons . One to gain publicity for Diana's trip to Chicago to campaign against breast cancer .
And also because Diana wanted to speak to Oprah off the record about her marriage. I cannot say for sure, but the article makes me believe that the second scenario is what happened. That's why I am a bit surprised by the negative response. I could understand it a bit more, if we had proof that the first scenario is what happened. But we never will.
Why can't we focus on the Diana that made her own coffee?
__________________
One of my friends is fundraising for and hoping to adopt at least 2 of the 3 of these special needs orphans. Please give/ help now!
Go to Reece's Rainbow, and donate torwards the adoption of Holland, Starr, and Grace- Ann!
My avatar is my RH- that is the exact RH I have in my heart constantly!
  #654  
Old 03-09-2014, 05:51 PM
Osipi's Avatar
Majesty
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: On the west side of North up from Back, United States
Posts: 6,664
One thing I remember reading about Diana is that when she was scheduled to meet someone, she was given a kind of dossier about the person so she would seem to be familiar with that person. At the beginning of the marriage it was stated that she almost flatly refused to do the reading. It doesn't sound like this was a lunch where Oprah decided to drop by on a whim but a lunch scheduled well in advance and the menu planned well in advance. If Diana did the menu deliberately to get Oprah to eat high fattening food and that was her intention, it was a mean spirited thing to do. If she read the dossier and no food restrictions were listed and she just requested low cal for herself alone, then I don't think there were any hamsters running on the wheel in Diana's brain to pull a fast one on Oprah.

We'll probably never really know what happened but last I heard Oprah is alive and well and healthy so whatever went down, it really doesn't matter.
__________________
“When I was 5 years old, my mother always told me that happiness was the key to life. When I went to school, they asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. I wrote down ‘happy’. They told me I didn’t understand the assignment, and I told them they didn’t understand life.”
― John Lennon
  #655  
Old 03-09-2014, 09:51 PM
MARG's Avatar
Majesty
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Christchurch, New Zealand
Posts: 6,054
Quote:
According to the Huffington Post's Rebecca Adams, who interviewed Mr McGrady last month, they were eating the chef's famous tomato mousses when, after a few mouthfuls, Oprah asked: 'Diana, how do you stay so slim eating rich food like this?' The princess replied: 'I just eat small portions and work out.'

Princess Diana's former chef has revealed how during lunch at Kensington Palace, she fooled Oprah Winfrey into thinking that she ate high calorie meals while still keeping her slim figure. That wasn’t quite the truth, though.

Diana, who was focused on eating healthy after overcoming her bulimia, had shifted to a fat-free diet and had asked Mr McGrady to serve her a fat-free version of the mousse, while Oprah was eating the original recipe which includes mayonnaise, sour cream and heavy cream. 'Diana never did tell her the truth,' admitted Mr McGrady.

Read more: Princess Diana's former chef on how she tricked Oprah Winfrey into eating fatty food | Mail OnlineLate-princesss-former-chef-reveals-tricked-Oprah-Winfrey-eating-fatty-food.html#ixzz2vW10sSon
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
I think a few people are missing the point here.

1. Diana wouldn't have invited Oprah to her home if she didn't know about her and, to be honest, everyone who ever watched her show knew about her problem with weight. It, and her ongoing battle was one of the things that kept ordinary women watching her show because a lot of them struggled too.

2. Diana was neither stupid nor ignorant.

3. Knowing about her guest's problem Diana served her a rich meal and herself a fat free version, which is pretty nasty in itself and then, when queried, lied her eye teeth about it.

There would be no "Trick" if it had been an honest mistake but it seems it was anything but!

To those who would rather talk about Diana making coffee for someone, I can only remind you that this thread is dedicated to the Different Facets of Diana. And this particular one is pretty ugly.
__________________
MARG
"Words ought to be a little wild, for they are assaults of thoughts on the unthinking." - JM Keynes
  #656  
Old 03-09-2014, 10:05 PM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Philadelphia, United States
Posts: 3,120
Diana could be mean and catty; she could also be warm and generous.
Shw wasn't the saint her admirers like to pretend she was, but she did have good qualities too.

Oh dear...sounds like Diana was a human being...
  #657  
Old 03-09-2014, 10:36 PM
Moonmaiden23's Avatar
Majesty
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Los Angeles, United States
Posts: 6,496
Thanks Mirabel. You put it better than I did.
__________________
"Be who God intended you to be, and you will set the world on fire" St. Catherine of Siena
  #658  
Old 03-09-2014, 10:39 PM
cepe's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: London, United Kingdom
Posts: 5,405
Would one meal make a difference? Would Diana care? Would Oprah?
Get it into perspective, folks.
good grief - sound and fury signifying nothing - Shakespeare has a phrase for everything
__________________

This precious stone set in the silver sea,......
This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England,
  #659  
Old 03-09-2014, 10:49 PM
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Washington, United States
Posts: 1,139
I am not a big Diana fan, although I am sympathetic to her struggle with mental illness, but I don't think this was necessarily a mean trick. She didn't tell Oprah that Oprah's food was low fat, or even that Diana could eat anything she wanted. Oprah knew that she was eating high fat food, she just didn't know what Diana was eating.

There are people in the world who can eat anything and not gain weight (I used to be one up until I hit the mid-30s). It didn't hurt Oprah to think Diana was one of them.

It is common for people who suffer from bulimia to pretend they have a high metabolism, it is one of the ways they hide their disease. I wouldn't expect Diana to reveal her problem to the queen of U.S. daytime television. At that time, many people suspected Diana had an eating disorder, but Diana tried to hide it from the general public--and it wasn't our business until she went public.

I agree that some people may be a little hard on Diana here but this story appeared because her chef published a book and is doing a round of interviews. He's talking about his most famous patron.
  #660  
Old 03-09-2014, 10:49 PM
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Spring Hill, United States
Posts: 2,822
Oprah got her weight by her own eating. Being served one meal would never make a difference. If a guest requests not to be served certain things than you abide. If not you serve what you think is wonderful. You, yourself may not eat some of these things. Those who want Diana to seem heartless try their best to take some nonsense and then build it into something big. The guests problem was, obviously, not put forth, as to please do not serve me.....And, Oprah is a very smart woman, she was not "tricked" into eating anything. Come on this is BS. or PR at its worst.
__________________

Closed Thread

Tags
bridesmaid, dance, diana princess of wales, pregnancy, princess diana, princess diana lady spencer, style


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
A New Diana? Princess Maxima Royal Chit Chat 203 09-24-2016 02:21 AM
Why do you like Diana? juliamontague Diana, Princess of Wales (1961-1997) 222 12-21-2011 03:40 AM




Popular Tags
ascot 2016 best gown best gown september 2016 best hat best outfit catherine middleton style coup d'etat crown prince haakon crown princess mary crown princess mary fashion crown princess mette-marit current events duchess of cambridge dutch state visit e-mail fashion poll grand duke jean greece infanta elena outfit kate middleton king abdullah ii king felipe king felipe vi king willem-alexander member introduction monarchy national day new zealand nobel gala norway november 2016 october 2016 opening of parliament picture of the week picture of the week november 2016 prince bernhard prince charles prince nikolaos princess marie princess mary princess mary daytime fashion princess mary fashion princess mary hats queen letizia queen letizia casual outfits queen letizia daytime fashion queen letizia fashion queen letizia style queen mathilde queen mathildes outfits queen maxima queen maxima casual wear queen maxima daytime fashion queen maxima eveningwear queen maxima fashion queen maxima hats queen maxima style queen rania queen rania current events royal fashion september 2016 state visit state visit to denmark succession sweden the duchess of cambridge the duchess of cambridge casual wear the duchess of cambridge daytime fashion the duchess of cambridge fashion the duchess of cambridge hats


Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:59 PM.

Social Knowledge Networks

eXTReMe Tracker
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2016
Jelsoft Enterprises