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Old 04-13-2011, 10:09 AM
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If as you say, other than at school, the boys were raised either by nannies or Diana, then I would agree she was the better parent, in fact the only parent. Where was their father during this time?

A loving mother who tried to show her sons what real life was like is part of her legacy.
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Old 04-13-2011, 10:15 AM
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If I recall correctly, William did not invite either parent to Parents Day so to not overshadow the other parents and to makesure the focus wasn't on them (Charles and Diana) but the other students. I don't recall reading that either Charles or Diana was bothered by this.
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Old 04-13-2011, 05:56 PM
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There is no question that Diana was a mother and a loving mother by all accounts. However, between boarding school days, the boys were effectively raised by nannies except when Diana wanted them to be part of her "I am a better parent than Charles" propaganda....IMO her image came first always...
If it is true that her image came first,( and while I respect your opinion I disagree with you.), then I do not think William and Harry would be the overall balanced young men we see today.And I know they get into mischief every now and then ( Harry especially), but what do you expect?
They are human, and make mistakes as we all do. They lost their mother during an essential time in their development. Give them a break, and look at the big picture: Overall, productive people. Diana did something right! I disagree with you about nannies too.

As far as Diana's nannies go there was only one at any period in time:
Barbara Barnes-82-87
Ruth Wallace- 87- 90
Jessie Webb- 90-92
Olga Powell- 92- 97
Source: Diana's Boys by Christopher Anderson
To me this does not seem like Diana had an army of nannies to rasie her kids!
However, Diana was a working, single mum so a nanny was necessary.
But I am sure Diana would have preferred to do it all herself...
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Diana and Charles sent the boys to boarding school aged 8 and from then on the majority of the credit for how they turned out is due to the schools and not the parents as the staff at the schools had far more to do with raising them and teaching than either parent. Charles must also take more of the credit than Diana simply because he has been there more often than she was - they shared the time with them when she was alive but for the last years of their growing up it was Charles.

Regardless of how much she loved them she still gave them over to others to raise for the majority of the time.

She didn't have to do anything other than raise her sons if that is what she wanted to do. She chose to work and the downside was that she had to give others the right to make decisions about raising her sons and that was the schools she and Charles chose for their sons.
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Old 04-13-2011, 09:24 PM
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IWhere was their father during this time?
He would have been at Highgrove most likely. The boys saw them on alternate weekends, I believe.
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Old 04-13-2011, 09:38 PM
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I don't think Charles should take more credit or Diana should take more credit. They were both involved and played an active role in their children's lives. Both William and Harry publicly speak lovingly of their parents. And sadly after Diana's death Charles had to be a single parent which was tragic due to the circumstances.
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Old 04-13-2011, 09:46 PM
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If as you say, other than at school, the boys were raised either by nannies or Diana, then I would agree she was the better parent, in fact the only parent. Where was their father during this time?

A loving mother who tried to show her sons what real life was like is part of her legacy.
Diana and Charles both shared the upbringing and except when Diana wanted to paint herself as the better parent in her war with Charles they generally agreed on the way to raise their sons. On occasions Diana tried to paint Charles as a bad parent but the facts disagree on that. Most of the time they agreed on the raising of their sons and on shared custody. They sent them to good schools to ensure they were raised the way that they wanted them raised.

When the boys were on holidays they shared the time with them equally - one week with Charles and then one week with Diana e.g. the summer Diana died they spent a couple of weeks with her and then with him before going back to be with her for the week before returning to school (the number of days would have been the same). The same with their half-term breaks - half the time with her and half with him. If they visited with friends the remaining time was still equally divided between the parents - at the insistence of both parents. Diana hated Charles and he hated her but they both agreed that they both loved their sons and tried to put aside their loathing of each other to do a good job with the boys.

What they didn't have was a 'family' unit, unlike their York cousins whose parents were able to still do things together as a family despite the separation and divorce.

Charles lived at Highgrove and at St James' in London and the boys spent time with him in both places along with time with Diana at KP and then their time at Sandringham, Windsor and Balmoral.
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At the time of Diana's death both she and Charles were on much better terms, friends imo. Charles even sent a bouquet of flowers for Diana on her 36th b-day. The Wales family during William's confirmation in June that year seemed united. They travelled in the same and Diana and Charles seemed very happy to be in each other's company. It was great that they were able to repair their relationship before Diana's death. Its sad the media has always tried portray Diana's relationship with Charles in those last months as strained. I remember reading an article years ago that once said that Charles was relieved that Diana was killed. What garbage.
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Old 04-13-2011, 10:11 PM
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Diana was forced to work by senior members of the BRF, and members of the Royal Household. They did not choose areas of intrest for her, or make her the caring person that she was. But they expected her to work. It was her duty.
The British people forced her to work, which was fair enough. She was their " diamond in the crown" their " star attraction". In order to remain so, she had to work. She had the distinction of Princess. She had to work to be worthy of it. She did.
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Old 04-13-2011, 10:25 PM
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Regardless of how much she loved them she still gave them over to others to raise for the majority of the time.
When the Princes where infants Diana, Princess of Wales did hands on child rearing. The nannies who helped her never where allowed to take charge.

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She didn't have to do anything other than raise her sons if that is what she wanted to do. She chose to work and the downside was that she had to give others the right to make decisions about raising her sons and that was the schools she and Charles chose for their sons.
A child's most formative years are their youngest — from birth to age 5. A child's intellect, personality and social skills are developed by that age. When the left for school the Princes were developed by the Princess and Prince. By 1986 Prince Charles was living in Highgrove and only seeing his children on the weekends. Diana, Princess of Wales for the majority of the formative years shaped her sons personality and social skills. Princess Diana exposed the Princes to the homeless, aid patients and the common man. The Princess took Prince William to his first royal duty.

I don't know about others, but I was raised by my parents and their guidance help form my personality. Also your characteristic are past down to each generation. I think the Princes have the Princess' compassion. I think Prince Harry has her free spirit and fun. Prince William has Prince Charles seriousness.

So truly Diana, Princess of Wales legacy is her boys. And think about this. Is every child a legacy to its parents? My religion states that.
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Old 04-26-2011, 05:15 PM
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Princess Diana's Legacy

Media scrutiny of the young Princess Diana was relentless. But as she grew comfortable with the spotlight, Lady Di used the attention to shed light on humanitarian issues, says Scott Stoddart, dean of FIT's School of Liberal Arts.

Video - What Was Princess Diana's Legacy? - WSJ.com
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Royal wedding 2011: Diana's greatest legacy - William married for love | Mail Online

Had to post. Rosa Mockten a close friend of Diana, Princess of Wales somes up what she thinks is Diana's legacy. I agree totally.
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Old 05-03-2011, 09:34 PM
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I think her legacy will be that she tried to raise her sons more like normal people, not like royals. Most royals didn't have the contact with the average person, like her sons did. She felt comfortable talking to the highest in society to the lowest. She didn't feel uncomfortable talking with someone who was from a much lower socio-economic standing than herself. A lot of royals would either feel uncomfortable in this setting or the person trying to converse with them would pick up on this and feel uncomfortable. I would feel very comfortable having a normal conversation with her and wouldn't feel like I had to be formal in speech when conversing with her. So would most common folk.
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Yes, I agree. The BRF are generally good at putting people at their ease, but I think that Diana went further and watched soap operas and so on so she'd have something to talk about with "ordinary" people.


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Yes, I agree. The BRF are generally good at putting people at their ease, but I think that Diana went further and watched soap operas and so on so she'd have something to talk about with "ordinary" people.
I think Diana, Princess of Wales tried to live her royal life as a normal person. She knew how her subject thought because she was once a commoner.
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Diana was an amazing soul. I spent my childhood days in a very poor town in Pakistan where most people didn't even own TVs or knew how to read. They wouldn't have have been able to tell you where England was or even knew such a place existed yet they knew Diana. I grew up hearing about how beautiful she was and what a great person she was. I remember the day she died when people of that small poor town mourned like they lost one of their own.

I grew up admiring her. To me, she was from another world. Growing up, I heard many stories, controversies of her and yes she might have had problems in her real life but her public work overshadows everything. Her private problems were her alone and I don't think we should use them to judge her esp. now when she is not here to defend herself. Because if you ask those people in that town today, what they remember about her, they would tell you about what a beautiful person she was and what a kind hearted soul she was. That she touched the lives of not only those she met but those who she never met as well. She was, in every sense of the world, truly a people's princess and nobody would ever be able to change that.

Her greatest legacies are not only all the work she has done but also the two amazing wonderful young men she brought into the world.

To see how Prince William and Prince Harry have turned out, after going through probably one of the hardest thing a person can through, losing the most important figure in a child's life. To see how much of their mother is in them, from William's carefree laugh to Harry's rebel side, it makes me feel Princess Diana is still with us. I am sure, if she was here today, she would have been so proud of her two boys and to see how they have grown up to be such grounded, normal and happy young men. To become everything Diana wanted them to be. It gives me great pride to see them trying to keep their mother's legecy alive and keep her work going.
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Diana at 50 - courtesy of high50.com

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Diana at 50

A panel of experts and friends give their views on Diana at 50

On 1st July 2011, Diana Princess of Wales would have turned 50, so we have brought together a panel of experts and friends of the princess to give their thoughts on what Diana might have been like at this landmark age. Some of the key quotes below appear in the article which has been published on High50 today, 16 June 2011.

Peter York, the style guru who coined the phrase "Sloane Ranger" says:
"She would be doing something very Amortal of an American slant...she'd also be having lot of mental and physical therapy."

Bruce Oldfield, Diana's dress designer, says:
"I don't think she would have turned into one of those ladies who lunch or who are on the boards of endless charities, there was no self-aggrandisement behind her choices. She took things on where she could make a difference."

Michael Cole, PR and journalist; former BBC royal correspondent; friend of, and former spokesman for, Mohamed Al-Fayed says:
"I believe that she and Dodi Al Fayed would have married and, I am certain, lived happily ever after. She was always looking for a happy family life and in the Fayed family that summer 14 years ago, she found it. "We are all here in KP (Kensington Palace) suffering the most awful withdrawal symptoms", she told me when she returned from the south of France. "We have had the best holiday of our lives."

Oliver James, clinical psychologist, author and broadcaster says:
"She would still be manipulating the media and appearing to be a success but, in her intimate life, I suspect she would still be unhappy. I think she would have paled in the public's imagination; they'd have seen through her."

Anna Harvey, Vogue magazine, personal stylist to the young Diana Spencer says:
"I believe the late Princess of Wales would have set a maddeningly high standard for the rest of us women at 50."


The full article can be read at www.high50.com.


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Interesting perspectives..

IMHO The late Princess would have stuggled with the ageing process,and {certainly} been 'the mother-in-law fom Hell'...
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Perhaps she might have ended up on a show similiar to Dr. Phil discussing her difficulties. Maybe not. Hard to say.
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