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Old 10-25-2017, 05:23 AM
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I think you're correct, Lady R, and the collection went to a private collector who wished to remain anonymous. I guess perhaps a little paragraph about how much they went for might pop up on the Paul Fraser Collectibles site in the future, as other Royal memorabilia has.
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Old 10-25-2017, 04:23 PM
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Was shocking is that people forgive the fact that Diana had multiple affairs and some with married men but still can't forgive Charles. Hypocrisy at its finest.
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Old 10-25-2017, 04:33 PM
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She had "multiple affairs" because she was still sowing her wild oats. Charles had "multiple affairs" too when he was younger.
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Was shocking is that people forgive the fact that Diana had multiple affairs and some with married men but still can't forgive Charles. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Yep.
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Old 10-25-2017, 07:37 PM
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She had "multiple affairs" because she was still sowing her wild oats. Charles had "multiple affairs" too when he was younger.
She didn't seem to think about the wife of the married men she was having an affair with.
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Old 10-25-2017, 07:46 PM
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What it really all boils down to is that with Diana's spin on things and "going public", emphasis was put on what Diana wanted to present rather than the cold, hard facts. When someone hoodwinks the media into presenting the poor, victimized wife, a lot of what was "real" didn't get equal billing.

The media of course was going to side with Diana. They knew a cash cow when they saw one. Charles, for the most part, didn't join in the media game and kept his counsel. I have to admire the man for that.
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Old 10-25-2017, 08:02 PM
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Diana was not perfect at all and neither was Charles so with all the books written and magazines for sale, nothing is going to change any facts or even the gossip. Diana can be bashed and bad mouthed till the end of time and the same with anyone else in that triangle of webs and lies, again nothing will change so why continue to bash her or Charles, life goes on and maybe there should be some sort of peace regarding her and Charles for after all aren't there 2 wonderful boys that are still remembering their mother. They for sure are not blind and dumb to what is being written or said about both parents. Bet they would love to have some peace over their parents, both of them. JMHO here!
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Old 10-25-2017, 08:42 PM
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I agree M Payton..I’ve often thought the motivation behind Heads Together was for their own sanity somehow and also perhaps, although unspoken, acknowledging their mother. jMO
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Old 10-25-2017, 08:57 PM
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and the same with anyone else in that triangle of webs and lies,
It was more than a triangle though. The fourth corner just changed periodically. I think it was a complicated situation.
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Old 10-25-2017, 09:13 PM
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I agree M Payton..I’ve often thought the motivation behind Heads Together was for their own sanity somehow and also perhaps, although unspoken, acknowledging their mother. jMO
I have thought the same about the *Heads Together* for it is for the mentality ill and emotional problems that life brings to each of us, some more then others. This foundation of the 3 of them, Heads Together is one really great help in bringing this type of illness to the front pages of life for everyone. I, in looking back realize how very difficult it must of been for both the boys to go through their mother's passing even with family around for there are times when the grief and sadness can be overwhelming and consuming. I really applaud what they are doing and making sure it continues to this day. Emotional problems can be devastating and rob a person of the joys of life if not recognized and taken care of and with Harry taking care of his emotional needs which says how mature and strong he is, that says a lot about this young man and what the foundation is trying to do.

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It was more than a triangle though. The fourth corner just changed periodically. I think it was a complicated situation.
Yes I understand that and even if there are 4 corners or 5 or 6, it is still the same issue only more complicated. What happened then is done and over with, can't change the past yet there seems to a never ending story by some to keep it alive and well with whatever assumptions, innuendoes, gossip, lies, rumors and stories to be told all for whatever reason. I would not be surprised if some one comes up with some silly story of some thing that is so far out and many will believe it just for the sake of thinking there is something new to be told...

It is William and Harry that have to live with it each and every day of their lives for the rest of their lives.....not me or anyone else in this world, but them and that is the sad part for they seem to be working towards that goal of peace with the Heads Together Foundation yet some still live in the past and can't move on.
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Actually, this thread is specifically here to discuss Diana's friends and lovers and its been an ongoing thread since 2006. The fact remains that Diana did have several lovers and affairs that encompassed the miserable years of her marriage. Its not about William and Harry nor is it about Heads Together. Its a place to discuss Diana and the people she was involved with.
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Okay sis, got ya, sorry for being off topic here.
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She didn't seem to think about the wife of the married men she was having an affair with.
Nor did Charles problaby worry about the husbands of his married mistresses. I don't think it was wise of her but at her age of mid 30s, the odds were that most men she would meet would already be married or in relationships. But if she hadn't foolishly made her marital problems public, she could have quietly had boyfriends...
I tink that when she wanted to, she could be very discreet and kept her affairs quiet but for example with Oliver Hoare, she ddi keep that one quiet.. until she foolishly chased him with phone calls.
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Old 10-26-2017, 02:30 PM
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Nor did Charles problaby worry about the husbands of his married mistresses. I don't think it was wise of her but at her age of mid 30s, the odds were that most men she would meet would already be married or in relationships. But if she hadn't foolishly made her marital problems public, she could have quietly had boyfriends...
I tink that when she wanted to, she could be very discreet and kept her affairs quiet but for example with Oliver Hoare, she ddi keep that one quiet.. until she foolishly chased him with phone calls.
They were both wrong to go after people who were married. Its so wrong.
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Old 10-26-2017, 03:12 PM
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That is what is called a blanket statement. One of the reasons for the different threads on Diana is to really know and explore this woman who had so many facets to her.

If you get into reading all of the different threads, you'll discover reasons for why things happened as they did. People have really delved into the persona that was Diana, Princess of Wales. Her character makeup. Her strengths and her weaknesses and, with this thread, the people that were close to her in her life. People are complex human beings and Diana was no different. The public Diana is a far different person from the Diana in private.

One thing we don't do and the moderators specifically ask us not to do is play the blame game or really go into discussing the Charles/Diana/Camilla triangle. There are threads for Charles. There are threads for Camilla and there is a thread for Charles and Diana and a thread for Charles and Camilla to discuss these couples and persons. Opinions tend to get heated and it detracts from intelligent and informative discussion on the person that was Diana.

Maybe you'll get hooked like I did, Kitty. Since joining here and becoming part of the discussions, I've come to see Diana in a totally different light than I did before I arrived here. I think out of all the books that I own on different persons, I have the most on Diana. Charles is a close second.
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Old 10-28-2017, 07:08 AM
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They were both wrong to go after people who were married. Its so wrong.
They didn't "go after people who were married." They flel in love or were attracted to people who were married. and at Diana's age, when her marriage finally went to pieces, the odds were that most men she would meet were already married or in relationships. But she had never had a chance to sow her wild oats because she had married so young and was a virgin. so I think its quite understandable that she fell for men who were already involved with people..Her big mistake was in having made such a drama about her own husband having an affair because it tehn looked like she was a hyporcirtie for getting involved in affairs with married men.
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