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Old 09-26-2013, 07:51 PM
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Lots of inordinate garbage. Yes, I am sure she was active, but her husband had a lover he loved. Married, actually. She is dead, name anyone you would like. How time and spin makes a dead woman one thing and her husband who was, barely a husband. rise to the top and marry his mistress who was part of the cause of this crap. I hear she slept with ........
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Old 09-26-2013, 07:55 PM
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Thank you to the posters who gave some "helpful" feedback. I appreciate it.
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Old 09-26-2013, 11:56 PM
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What about Oliver Hoare and rugby captain Will Carling? Wasn't Oliver Hoare found in his underpants standing behind a potted plant smoking outside of Diana's bedroom? Doubt he was evaluating the paintings, and of course there were all those phone calls to his home. Also was not Mrs Carling on the verge of naming Diana as the other person in her divorce suit against Will until they reconciled for a time. She must have felt there was a lot of "smoke" in that case.

There in the 'rumours' and not confirmed category.

Neither she nor they have even confirmed that they were lovers although the evidence is highly suggestive.

The others are confirmed by one or both parties.

Julia Carling didn't need to name anyone in a divorce suit as the idea was 'no fault' divorce by 1995 when the Carling's split but she did suggest very strongly that Diana was the 'third person' in her marriage.
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:11 AM
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There were rumors and the tabloids were coming up with all kinds of stuff that weren't true. Also, there were people who were looking for some love and comfort in the wrong places as well.
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Old 09-27-2013, 07:12 AM
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Would you put Barry Mannakee in the confirmed category because Diana admitted the affair in tapes that surfaced after her death? I would also add James Gilbey. As you know, the tape was highly suggestive. The tape was apparently edited and the entire recording was very graphic.
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Old 09-27-2013, 07:25 AM
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I haven't heard the tapes where Diana admitted to an affair with Mannakee but if she did then that is a confirmed.

Gilbey - yes suggestive but never confirmed but certainly more than likely given the tapes that have emerged.
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Lots of inordinate garbage. Yes, I am sure she was active, but her husband had a lover he loved. Married, actually. She is dead, name anyone you would like. How time and spin makes a dead woman one thing and her husband who was, barely a husband. rise to the top and marry his mistress who was part of the cause of this crap. I hear she slept with ........
Let's face it. The Wales' marriage had a lot wrong with it and neither of them were happy together when they both went on with their lives. I don't for a minute believe that all was happyland and roses when whomever it was (we really don't know and probably never will) "cheated" first. Charles built a loving relationship with a decades long friend and confidante and Diana did what she should have done before even thinking of getting married and settling down which is explore relationships, get comfortable with her own sexuality and, as we used to call it, "find herself".

Its not all about the "sleeping with" part. That is only the "dirty, scandalous, sleazy, eyebrow raising, hush-hush" stigma that the human race has put on sexuality. Both of them were seeking fulfillment in relationships rather than primal self gratification.

Just a few thoughts.
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Old 09-27-2013, 08:29 AM
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Diana also befriended some people but the tabloids would link their relationship as a romance. We saw this same thing being done with her sons. They have female friends but the media and other tabloids linked them as boyfriend and girlfriend. Harry must've had at least a hundred relationships according to the media.
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:16 AM
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Diana also befriended some people but the tabloids would link their relationship as a romance. We saw this same thing being done with her sons. They have female friends but the media and other tabloids linked them as boyfriend and girlfriend. Harry must've had at least a hundred relationships according to the media.
And that boils it all down to one truth. Sex sells.
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:31 AM
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And that boils it all down to one truth. Sex sells.
Very true, sex sells and reputations becomes damaged in the process.
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Old 09-27-2013, 02:49 PM
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I haven't heard the tapes where Diana admitted to an affair with Mannakee but if she did then that is a confirmed.
I've never heard the tape either but this is an article that confirms the existence of the tape. Diana: 'Bodyguard killed for our affair' | Mail Online

The article indicates that the affair began before Charles "re-established contact" with Camilla, but there is no way anyone but Charles and Camilla can know whether that is true.
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Old 09-27-2013, 03:15 PM
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There's a great deal of rumors out there about Diana's love life. A great deal of it wasn't true.
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There's a great deal of rumors out there about Diana's love life. A great deal of it wasn't true.
That is why we are discussing which men to actually include on the list of her lovers. I would say the confirmed list of lovers are: Barry Manakee (Diana admitted), James Hewitt (Diana admitted), James Gilbey (tape), Oliver Hoare (confirmed by Kenneth Wharf), Hasnat Khan (obvious), and Dodi Fayed (obvious).
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James Hewitt has claimed that Diana told him that she and Mannakee were lovers during a conversation about a toy bear that Mannakee gave her. The only tape I know of in which Diana discusses Mannakee is in the tapes broadcast on American tv with the cooperation of Peter Settelen. I remember Diana saying, "He was the best fella I've ever had." However, she denied that they were lovers. In fact, when Settelen asks her if they were intimate, she gives a rather shocked "No." She seemed surprised to have been asked the question. Perhaps she was trying to make Hewitt jealous when she told him that she was intimate with her bodyguard. So hard to know.

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I've never heard the tape either but this is an article that confirms the existence of the tape. Diana: 'Bodyguard killed for our affair' | Mail Online

The article indicates that the affair began before Charles "re-established contact" with Camilla, but there is no way anyone but Charles and Camilla can know whether that is true.
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Thank you. I had never heard the tapes, so it is nice to have an accurate assessment. The articles I've read make it sounds as though she admitted to an affair with Barry Mannakee.
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I don't want to play at being an amateur psychologist, but I do think Diana may have had quite a few flings; isn't that typical of someone who is very insecure and feels rejected by her husband, and requires affirmation that she is attractive?

(It seems strange now, because Diana's looks were greatly admired, but I remember a rather scathing comment by one of Charles' friends about Diana: Really, nothing special. If he hadn't married her, she'd have trouble getting a date.)

If that was the sort of attitude Diana encountered, I'm not surprised if she had affairs.
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I don't want to play at being an amateur psychologist, but I do think Diana may have had quite a few flings; isn't that typical of someone who is very insecure and feels rejected by her husband, and requires affirmation that she is attractive?

(It seems strange now, because Diana's looks were greatly admired, but I remember a rather scathing comment by one of Charles' friends about Diana: Really, nothing special. If he hadn't married her, she'd have trouble getting a date.)

If that was the sort of attitude Diana encountered, I'm not surprised if she had affairs.
She had affairs to get even with her husband, who had a mistress from day one, which many today have been sold on the myth that he didn't. Diana was his wife, but to a royal of his status that mattered little. He, really, loves Camilla, and that is very nice. But to have a husband who, really loves someone else can't be great. Diana was a fool. She should have lived and waited in the wings to be queen. But she chose to speak out and have affairs, which made her no better than he.
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She had affairs to get even with her husband, who had a mistress from day one, which many today have been sold on the myth that he didn't.
Can you show an evidence to prove your allegations are true?
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