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Ah well, yes, if only they had stuck to poking bums with umbrellas. .. *sigh*
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Old 07-16-2010, 07:39 PM
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I think that Sarah talked about her attitude toward Charles in her autobiography. I remember her writing that she "missed" him.

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. I think it's like for Diana and Andrew : they talk and like each other but it doesn't mean they are the best friends in the world.
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Old 08-10-2013, 01:12 PM
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I think this is when they crashed Andrew's stag party.
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I read that several years ago and could not even begin to remember where now, but it was in some newspaper, and it was clear that Diana resented it.

I read the same thing.

However, Diana resented most women who spent any time around Charles, like Kanga Tryon, Tiggy, etc.

So it's not like Fergie was a special case.
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Old 08-12-2013, 05:25 PM
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Old 08-13-2013, 11:27 AM
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A very funny picture:

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Old 08-13-2013, 11:30 AM
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Yeah it is. I think this may have been around the time they dressed up like that to crash Andrew's stag do.
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I think Diana and Sarah were great friends but who have had their disagreements. I don't know what happened between them to get mad at, but I believe that if Diana were alive today, they would have patched things up and be friends again.
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I think Diana and Sarah had a complicated relationship based on living under enormous pressure and being in their 20s, new mothers, young wives and women groomed to be ladies of leisure, the original Sloane Rangers.

Sarah, by all accounts, has always had many friends and has maintained her friendships over her lifetime. The same cannot be said for Diana. Elton John has pointed out that, towards the end of Diana's life, she dumped the majority of the people who actually had her best interests in mind and hung around a lot of 'Yes' people.

Tina Brown's 'Diana' biography had a very damning allegation in it: that it was Diana who tipped off James Whitaker about Sarah's trip to the South of France with John Bryan which resulted in the 'toe sucking' scandal. Diana is gone, James Whitaker is gone, so the facts die with them...but if it's true, that was a truly cruel thing of Diana to do to Sarah. And yet, Sarah always seemed open and forgiving (she visited Whitaker the week he died).

I do like to think they would have reconciled. Their children are a testament to who they are as women, mothers and former royals.
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I agree Lord Royal. They were jealous of one another. They each had something the other didn't have, and wanted. But I do feel that Sarah was a better friend to Diana than Diana was to Sarah.

On the night of Diana's fatal accident Sarah was reportedly frantically calling around Europe, trying to get one of her well-heeled friends to fly her to Paris so she could be with Diana. Sarah is one of the very few people who was permitted by the Spencer family and Prince Charles to pay their respects to Diana at St. James Palace Chapel.

I also think if Diana had survived the accident they would have eventually reconciled their friendship.
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Old 08-12-2014, 04:56 AM
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I think that with Diana's death their children show what was going on then. They have maintained the contact and mix with the same friends. Just like those early photos of them all on the ski slopes together, their children are their living legacy.

I think both Diana and Sarah are proud of their adults their children have become.
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I agree Lord Royal. They were jealous of one another. They each had something the other didn't have, and wanted. But I do feel that Sarah was a better friend to Diana than Diana was to Sarah.


I also think if Diana had survived the accident they would have eventually reconciled their friendship.
I have never read this about Sarah, not sure how to take it. I think that she was well meaning and warm hearted but silly. Was she realistic in trying to get to Diana? Wasn't the news that Di was dead out there before she could have gone to Paris? So why go? So was it just an impulse thing.. "Oh I want to go and see darling Diana.. oh please let me.." and when it wasn't possible, she kind of shrugged it off? And of course I think that since Di's death, she has talked about her a bit like she tries to talk about the RF, in hopes that it will get her name in the papers or back into the fold of the RF..
I don't entirely blame Di for being annoyed with Sar's stupid remark about catching veruccas from Di's shoes.. you shouldn't BORROW shoes. THen agian, Diana COULD keep up a grudge, and I think she took it too far. She was really really angry with Sarah over that and I think other indiscretions.. and I'm not sure if she would have reconciled with her.. had she lived... (or with her mother). I think that was out of proportion. Its not like Sarah robbed her or hit her or hurt her kids.
And while Sarah was silly vulgar and annoying, that's who she was.. so why get so annoyed about her to the point of hating on her and breaking off her friendship completely as she seems to have done.. as in the "No Fergie at the party no matter what."

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Any idea where you got this from, as the only thing I remember was Charles' distance from girls of this age group, including Sarah and Diana's friends. Of course Sarah spent a lot of her time with other men while Andrew was away, but I don't recall Charles being one of them, due as I said to the age difference.
Never heard of this. And I wouldn't believe it. Charles liked Sarah at first, because she was jolly and outdoorsy, unlike his wife.. But she was also very silly and as someone's said, 12 years younger than him... and he preferred older people.. so I have never heard of his being friendly with her after the first year or 2 of her marrying into the RF. I'm sure given her foolish indiscretions he would have avoided her like the plague.
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Tina Brown's 'Diana' biography had a very damning allegation in it: that it was Diana who tipped off James Whitaker about Sarah's trip to the South of France with John Bryan which resulted in the 'toe sucking' scandal. Diana is gone, James Whitaker is gone, so the facts die with them...but if it's true, that was a truly cruel thing of Diana to do to Sarah. And yet, Sarah always seemed open and forgiving (she visited Whitaker the week he died).

I do like to think they would have reconciled. Their children are a testament to who they are as women, mothers and former royals.
I can't remember what evidence Brown cites for this. so I'm holding my judgement. We dont know if it is true. But Sarah was pretty foolish, she didn't even have the shrewdness that kept Diana loved by the papers for a long time.. She should not have BEEN toe sucking with Bryan, and while if Di tipped off the press, that was wrong, SOMEONE was likely to have let the meida know about Fergie's affair with him. I can't dislike Fergie but she is extremely silly and selfish.. at times. in a chlildsh way. I think that Diana realised that she was dragging her down, so she did cut ties with her to some extent.. And yes I think there was jealousy, She resented the fact that at first, Sarah got on much better with the royals in private life than she hd managed to do and she did fear that Sarah's intiial popularity with the press would take from her own popularity..
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If I remember correctly, Tina Brown cites the fact that very, very few people knew of her location when she was with John Bryan in France, and the other people wouldn't have passed on the information. Diana wasn't averse to "throwing people under the bus" when it suited her, including making other people look bad in order for her to look good. It was one of her least attractive characteristics IMO.
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I'll have to look at the book again Mermaid. But I think that there's no definitive evidence.. and it seems ab it mean to accuse her like that. It might have been the staff at Fergie's holiday home..
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Well, Diana did do a hatchet job on Charles and the rest of the Royal Family in the Morton book and then again in the Bashir interview. As much as I admired her, I've had to admit that she did some horrible things. For that reason, I don't think it's impossible that she spilled the beans on Sarah, particularly if she was afraid that something bad was going to come out about herself. That summer of 1992 was crazy. The whole family seemed to be imploding.
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Sarah did what Sarah did. To blame Diana without concrete evidence is foolish.
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Well, Diana did do a hatchet job on Charles and the rest of the Royal Family in the Morton book and then again in the Bashir interview. As much as I admired her, I've had to admit that she did some horrible things. For that reason, I don't think it's impossible that she spilled the beans on Sarah, particularly if she was afraid that something bad was going to come out about herself. That summer of 1992 was crazy. The whole family seemed to be imploding.
Diana did do some horrible things and threw people under the bus when she felt in danger of damaging her image; but I don't know if I buy that she told on Sarah. I have to hear more evidence to support the claim. When exactly did this theory start? Isn't it just as likely that someone working there called the press?
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