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Old 11-08-2015, 05:23 PM
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Well clearly it's all just speculation and opinion. Just like the nature of James' relationship with Diana and whether or not he was truly devoted/loyal to her. We can read all the books and articles we want, but only the people involved know what really went down between them. Everything else is just opinion based on what one reads, or the feelings one has for the parties involved.
One of the two people in question wrote a book about the relationship. "Love and War" by James Hewitt is readily available on Amazon. I found it a fascinating read.
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Old 11-08-2015, 05:26 PM
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I know he's written a book, but there are two sides to every story. His account of the relationship may be different than Diana's. Plus he may have left out things to make himself look better. It's easy to write a story when the other person is no longer around to defend/get their side out. But the main point I'm trying to make, is that we will likely never know the entire truth about what occurred between them. So everything we discuss, is really just opinions based off of whatever account we choose to believe.
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Old 11-08-2015, 05:39 PM
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I'm very disappointed with what's been posted here. William was 6!! Most 6 year olds can't write beyond copying basic words yet posters think they are going to find out what he was feeling etc. People are licking their lips thinking what might be in the letters. Yet same people didn't want Charles spider letters made known. I am so disappointed about the double standards but guess I shouldn't be surprised IMO


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Old 11-08-2015, 06:20 PM
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In my jewelry box I have a loving letter, not a love letter, from a man who became quite renowned in the years after I lost touch with him. We had a very sweet romantic relationship when he was 19 and I was 30. The letter was written when he was dying, and my husband has read it (with my permission, of course).

Because of various reasons, this letter and the personal history it reveals, would be of great interest to "Jon's" biographer and other researchers if I chose to share it. It is not in the least salacious, but it does have some historical significance, and if I chose to, I might be able to sell it for a modest, yet significant sum.

But I never would. It was personal, and the sentiments and remembrances belonged to him, and to me, not to the world. A person of honor would never despoil those memories by auctioning them off to the highest public bidder.
You sound like a wonderfully decent human being.
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Old 11-08-2015, 07:01 PM
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I'm very disappointed with what's been posted here. William was 6!! Most 6 year olds can't write beyond copying basic words yet posters think they are going to find out what he was feeling etc. People are licking their lips thinking what might be in the letters. Yet same people didn't want Charles spider letters made known. I am so disappointed about the double standards but guess I shouldn't be surprised IMO
One thing we do know that is a given and that is that Diana was a stickler for sending thank you notes (even to the butler for a small kindness). These so called "letters" could be something that a very happily married Princess of Wales (a supposition of course) was teaching her young son to do. Mummy was writing a thank you note so William wanted to do the same. For all we know, someone could be spending a whole lot of green dollars on words so simple that its impossible to read "between the lines". Perhaps the only "value" of these letters would be the signatures of Diana and a very young future King of Great Britain. Maybe they also wrote letters to the baker for the surprise cake he sent them at the same time. Who knows?

Personally, I wouldn't waste my money.
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Old 11-08-2015, 07:12 PM
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IMO, all the letters should be published in date order, in their entirety.

They can be compared to her version of events in the Morton book and her various interviews both formal and informal.

The letters can reveal a great deal. It can reveal if she was lying or he was lying.

If a letter dated in 1988, talks about their 5 year relationship then we know he was telling the truth about his relationship beginning before Harry was born. If a 1988 letter, talks about a 2nd anniversary, then we know he was lying.

They may reveal her real feelings as they occurred rather than the revised version of the Morton and the Panorama interview. Contemporary letters and diaries are always better than reminiscences made for television audiences.

The letters have already revealed something interesting, the staff at BP already knew about her relationship.

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On December 19, 1987, she wrote: ‘If by any chance you want to get in touch for whatever, the B. P. switchboard will know exactly where I am even if I don’t ... it has been known!’
(Interesting the DM blurred some word.)
What was known...

The letters may also divulge her real feeling towards her family, the RF and her charities.

They may shed some light on her real relationship with Prince Charles.

Her letters may tell a very different story than the Morton or Panorama interview.

The letters are her words, her story.
Why not put everything together to get a complete picture?

The more info, the better.
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Old 11-08-2015, 07:23 PM
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It's none of our business. If no one paid him any mind and refused to buy these things there would be no point in him putting them forth.



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Old 11-08-2015, 07:47 PM
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I know he's written a book, but there are two sides to every story. His account of the relationship may be different than Diana's. Plus he may have left out things to make himself look better. It's easy to write a story when the other person is no longer around to defend/get their side out. But the main point I'm trying to make, is that we will likely never know the entire truth about what occurred between them. So everything we discuss, is really just opinions based off of whatever account we choose to believe.
How is he changing anything?
These are her letters to him.
This is the best source of information from her.
These were written by her to him while their affair was going on.
This is the most reliable of sources.

These are her letters and can reveal what occurred between them.

It is not our opinion, when it is her words.
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Old 11-08-2015, 07:50 PM
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I know he's written a book, but there are two sides to every story. His account of the relationship may be different than Diana's. Plus he may have left out things to make himself look better. It's easy to write a story when the other person is no longer around to defend/get their side out. But the main point I'm trying to make, is that we will likely never know the entire truth about what occurred between them. So everything we discuss, is really just opinions based off of whatever account we choose to believe.
You're quite right about there being two sides to every story, and about us never being likely to know the entire truth, and that's the same with everyone we discuss here.

We have Hewitt's account from his book and interviews he's given, and we have a few words from Diana in her interviews. If we accept what we have in her words, we know from the Panorama interview that she was in love with Hewitt, and that she adored him, but that she was "very let down". Hewitt told Larry King that he understood that to be a reference to his decision to go to Germany with his regiment, and thus was no longer there for her anymore. We also know, from the Squidgygate tape of 31.12.1989, that she "decked out" Hewitt, i.e. chose and paid for his clothes. "Entirely dressed him, from head to foot, that man. Cost me quite a bit."

I am always interested in what the parties say in their own words, which is why I would love to read her letters. Yes, I've changed my mind since yesterday, now I've thought about it more. They are primary evidence of her feelings and the nature of their relationship and very valuable for that reason. I wouldn't expect much from a young William's letters, but I would still find them interesting, no matter how brief or formal or banal. I'd love to know how he addressed Hewitt, for one thing.
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Old 11-08-2015, 07:52 PM
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It's none of our business. If no one paid him any mind and refused to buy these things there would be no point in him putting them forth.LaRae
She made it our business when she collaborated with Morton on 'Her Story'.
She made it our business when she went on television.
If she did not want her business to be known, she should have kept her business to herself.
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Old 11-08-2015, 07:55 PM
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Hewitt can sell the letters because he was the receiver of them. However, the words written are under the copyright of the writer. So publishing may not be legal.


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Old 11-08-2015, 08:01 PM
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Hewitt can sell the letters because he was the receiver of them. However, the words written are under the copyright of the writer. So publishing may not be legal.
Why would there be different rules for Diana?

Numerous people have had letters published without their consent.
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Old 11-08-2015, 08:04 PM
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IMO, all the letters should be published in date order, in their entirety.

They can be compared to her version of events in the Morton book and her various interviews both formal and informal.

The letters can reveal a great deal. It can reveal if she was lying or he was lying.

If a letter dated in 1988, talks about their 5 year relationship then we know he was telling the truth about his relationship beginning before Harry was born. If a 1988 letter, talks about a 2nd anniversary, then we know he was lying.

They may reveal her real feelings as they occurred rather than the revised version of the Morton and the Panorama interview. Contemporary letters and diaries are always better than reminiscences made for television audiences.

The letters have already revealed something interesting, the staff at BP already knew about her relationship.

(Interesting the DM blurred some word.)
What was known...

The letters may also divulge her real feeling towards her family, the RF and her charities.

They may shed some light on her real relationship with Prince Charles.

Her letters may tell a very different story than the Morton or Panorama interview.

The letters are her words, her story.
Why not put everything together to get a complete picture?

The more info, the better.

Oh dear lol lol who is going to demand that.
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Old 11-08-2015, 08:05 PM
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Hewitt can sell the letters because he was the receiver of them. However, the words written are under the copyright of the writer. So publishing may not be legal.
Yes. So far it's only a "may", but if there were an attempt to publish any of this material I have no doubt that William would seek an injunction and a determination of this issue.
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I see some of the defense of Hewitt is based on Diana doing so and so, so why shouldn't he?

Well, Diana is dead.
Whatever she did is in the past. We can only speculate as to whether Diana would have regretted some of her actions had she lived today.
However, the things Diana did wrong a couple of decades ago does not IMO justify Hewitt doing something wrong today.

I don't care what's in the letters. I don't care if William's letter consisted only of stick-people, it's the principle. Unless there are very good reasons, you do not publish personal letters. Period.
Mirabel put it very well: This is not something a gentleman would do.

If Hewitt believes these letters have a historical significance he could donate them to the national archives for study by historians. Well, he doesn't so the conclusion must be IMO that he is doing this for profit and/or attention.

As for William's letters: Well, they are probably pretty harmless, so if such letters from that period in his life should be published let the BRF do it themselves. I'm sure Hewitt wasn't the only one who got a letter from William, so did I'm sure his dad and grandmother as well.
But "in the public interest", "historical interest" and "providing a different angle", yeah right! Has he got an Eiffel Tower for sale as well?
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Old 11-08-2015, 08:11 PM
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How is he changing anything?
These are her letters to him.
This is the best source of information from her.
These were written by her to him while their affair was going on.
This is the most reliable of sources.

These are and her letters can reveal what occurred between them.

It is not our opinion, when it is her words.
I'm not talking about Diana's letters. My post was referring to the book James wrote.
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Old 11-08-2015, 08:12 PM
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Hear, hear ! Terrific post !
There's of course a huge hipocrisy about James Hewitt. He's, after all, the living proof that Diana was an adulteress too : an unbearable though for many.
I don't like the man but his life was more or less destroyed by this affair because he's seen, unfairly, a the sole responsible of it.
He's one of the worse collateral damage of the war of the Wales. I've more pity for him than some real sympathy.
I totally agree with your post. These letters remind us that Diana was fully half of this "couple". It is so easy to see people discarding her lovers as if they had had never happened and was, therefore, irrelevant and, if pushed, they tend to paint them as someone who all but debauched an innocent!

I agree with Queen Camilla. These are Diana's words and also her son's and if they were written to Hewitt then they are his to keep, save, burn or sell.

Basically, I think people just do not want to be reminded that there should only ever have been two people in that relationship and Diana chose to include her sons.
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Old 11-08-2015, 08:19 PM
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She made it our business when she collaborated with Morton on 'Her Story'.
She made it our business when she went on television.
If she did not want her business to be known, she should have kept her business to herself.

Not talking about her, talking about him. If people minded their own business and ignored him there's be nothing for him to sell.



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And you would have him continue to be broke, living with his mother and in desperate need of money rather than sell valuable assets and improve his circumstances?
Yes. He's broke for a reason. It's called karma. He could always live on the dole as they call it in England or welfare as we call it here in the States. So he won't starve. But to sell personal letters from someone you once supposedly loved is an awful way to improve your circumstances. How about getting a job? (Probably impossible for this jerk since he apparently has few friends except for those who also want to exploit his relationship with Diana.)
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Not talking about her, talking about him. If people minded their own business and ignored him there's be nothing for him to sell.
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Why should he be ignored?

She started it. If she cared about her privacy, she should have kept her private life private.

She is the cause of him being trashed all over the internet and media.
He has every right to do anything that might make him whole again.
He was the one wronged.
If he needs her letters to prove he was not lying about their relationship starting in 1982, then why try to deny him his rights.
If he needs a source of income, because he could not support himself because of his tarnished reputation, then why deny him his right to an income.

The double standard that she could do what she wants and tell her story but he cannot because if he did then he is a cad, is the height of hypocrisy.
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