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Old 04-04-2009, 12:05 AM
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The comeback cad: Why is James Hewitt STILL dropping tantalising hints about Prince Harry's paternity? | Mail Online
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... As he puts it: 'It would be rather nice to be known as James Hewitt of the Polo House and not James Hewitt of the . . .' He trails off.
There could, of course, be a number of different ways to finish that sentence. James Hewitt, who will be forever reminded of his five-year affair with Diana. James Hewitt of the subsequent account of it in a book, Princess In Love. James Hewitt, who so desperately wants to shed his lover at image, who, six years ago, tried to sell 60 love letters he received from the Princess for millions.
Little wonder that for some time Hewitt felt he was the closest thing we had to public enemy number one. And yet, times have changed.
In a world where every human commodity - birth, death, sex - is available for public consumption either on television or the internet, it almost feels as though the Hewitt saga comes from another age....
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Old 04-04-2009, 01:50 AM
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Oh, I dunno, could it be because it keeps his connection with Diana in the public's mind?

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Old 04-04-2009, 10:56 AM
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The headline of the article has very little relation to its content.
The reporter doesn't ask Hewitt about Harry or his paternity, nor does Hewitt mention it.
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Old 05-24-2009, 10:46 AM
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I think one of the saddest legacies she has left is the perpetual cloud over the issue of Prince Harry's parentage. I don't think we will ever begin to understand the anguish he has gone through curtesy of Diana's indiscreet revelations.

While we all like to think that he is undoubtedly a prince by birth, and I believe that one way or another the family "know", should anything happen to William (Heaven forfend) you can't tell me that Parliament and even the mainstream press media would not be demanding some "Proof" that he is indeed a "Wales" and 2nd in line to the throne.
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Old 05-24-2009, 11:06 AM
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Beacause of the media printing out those horrible rumours of Harry not being Charles' son has caused that terrible cloud.
Diana has stated that she had an affair with Hewitt after Harry was born. If he wasn't a Windsor The Royal Family would have known a long time ago. All this talk of Harry not being Charles' son is just cruel speculation.
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Old 05-24-2009, 01:04 PM
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Do you really think that if the BRF knew Harry wasn´t Charles´s son they would spread the news for everyone to see?
If it is cruel speculation, it is Diana´s fault and no one else´s.
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If it is cruel speculation, it is Diana´s fault and no one else´s.
May I just suggest that it takes a woman and a man to conceive and that the 'potential' father always maintained the mystery around who was Prince Harry's biological father. So he's, logically, also to blame for not denying the rumors after her death.
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May I just suggest that it takes a woman and a man to conceive and that the 'potential' father always maintained the mystery around who was Prince Harry's biological father. So he's, logically, also to blame for not denying the rumors after her death.
I have no doubt that it "takes two to tango" but that is not the point, Diana by taking a lover, is naturally to blame if later there is speculation about the paternity of one of her sons. It is cruel to Harry and it is his mother´s fault.
As to the potential father denying this, perhaps he has his reasons.
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But you'll never consider that she could have had her reasons to take a lover?
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Old 05-24-2009, 02:15 PM
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I think there's plenty of blame to go around here. A lot of it has to do with the tabloid press, which is in the business of making money in whatever way it can. If people weren't so very interested in these rumours, the tabloids wouldn't keep on about them. This didn't become an issue until Hewitt started hinting that he and Diana were intimate years before they were supposed to have met in the first place - all that business about being under hypnosis or whatever. It isn't Diana's fault that he didn't keep his mouth shut about that. If he really believed he was Harry's father, there were ways to find out that didn't involve yapping to the tabloids; if he didn't believe it, then he should have held his tongue. The guy apparently was looking for money, and like a lot of people he decided that exploiting Diana was a good way to get some. When someone does that, it isn't fair to give them a free pass and simply blame her.
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Do you really think that if the BRF knew Harry wasn´t Charles´s son they would spread the news for everyone to see?
If it is cruel speculation, it is Diana´s fault and no one else´s.
Diana's only fault was seeking comfort in another man after her marriage broke down. She didn't leave hints to the press that Harry wasn't Charles' son. Thanks to Hewitt making his so called claims and the media spreading rumours we have these very horrible accusations.
And Elspeth is right there is plenty of blame to go around but to blame Diana souly, is unfair.
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It's so ironic, isn't it? Diana was seen as a heroine and as a strong person by so many people, and yet she constantly made herself out to be a victim. This, I believe, was what caused her self-sabotage: her self-pity led to the Morton book, the Panorama interview, and her dropping of friends and staff.

The 90s seemed to be a sea of people looking for atonement through going on television and talking. People like Oprah based a whole career on this phenomenon.

Diana was very much a mirror of her times, I think.

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It is not a question of not fitting my criteria or moral standards, rather a total rejection of the cult of "Everything is somebody elses fault".
Yes, it's Hewitt who's responsible for the rumours. The only relationship Diana even hinted at in the early years of her marriage was with Mannakee.

Diana referred to Harry and William as "our children" in the Panorama interview. If there was a bombshell to drop about Harry, I think that she would have done that before she died.



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Diana's only fault was seeking comfort in another man after her marriage broke down. She didn't leave hints to the press that Harry wasn't Charles' son. Thanks to Hewitt making his so called claims and the media spreading rumours we have these very horrible accusations.
And Elspeth is right there is plenty of blame to go around but to blame Diana souly, is unfair.
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This may not make sense to some people but I've met people throughout my life who have gone through various things and come out of it better then ever and I find them so strong and yet they see themselves merely as victims of the things that have happened to them, I think to some degree that's probably what was going on in Diana's head to some extent. And yet I think the other half of the time she the victim card just to gain public sympathy.
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But you'll never consider that she could have had her reasons to take a lover?
Take a lover? She told us the reason herself, she absolutely adored Hewitt, that was told to millions of people on TV by Diana. If she had been Mrs Jones from next door, no problem, but she was the wife of the next King of England.
Whatever is said, because of that, Prince Harry will always live under a cloud of suspicion as no Royal family is going to publish the results of any dna test.
As we are talking about a legacy,IMHO this is a very sad legacy indeed.
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The reason Harry's paternity is under a cloud of suspicion in some quarters is that (a) a lot of people don't know that Diana comes from a family of redheads and therefore assume that Harry must have got his red hair from somewhere other than Charles and Diana and (b) Hewitt went onto the airwaves and the tabloids after Diana's death and coyly hinted that they'd been lovers since a lot earlier than they were thought to have known each other. This isn't simply Diana's fault.

I've often wondered what Hewitt's story about his hypnosis-induced revelations would have looked like if William had been the red-haired son.
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That would have been quite interesting to see how it would have been played out if William was the child who's paternity was being questioned. You know to be honest with you the more I think about it the more I think alot of what Diana did was an accumulation of pressure and just things going on around her. She's an interesting figure to try and understand and I'm still to this day trying to figure her out, but I think that's the cool thing about Diana's story it's still being told in many different ways, but I don't think we'll ever know the real story but then again I beleive everyone sees these types of stories differently then someone else may.
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Take a lover? She told us the reason herself, she absolutely adored Hewitt, that was told to millions of people on TV by Diana. If she had been Mrs Jones from next door, no problem, but she was the wife of the next King of England.
Whatever is said, because of that, Prince Harry will always live under a cloud of suspicion as no Royal family is going to publish the results of any dna test.
As we are talking about a legacy,IMHO this is a very sad legacy indeed.
Welcome to the forums Wisteria, (a beautiful plant,). Diana's legacy, among other things, seems to be discord and division.
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The reason Harry's paternity is under a cloud of suspicion in some quarters is that (a) a lot of people don't know that Diana comes from a family of redheads and therefore assume that Harry must have got his red hair from somewhere other than Charles and Diana and (b) Hewitt went onto the airwaves and the tabloids after Diana's death and coyly hinted that they'd been lovers since a lot earlier than they were thought to have known each other. This isn't simply Diana's fault.

I've often wondered what Hewitt's story about his hypnosis-induced revelations would have looked like if William had been the red-haired son.
Exactly, I find these rumours to be just that ugly unfounded rumours.
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Exactly, I find these rumours to be just that ugly unfounded rumours.
I also believe that they are just that, however Diana telling the world on TV that she absolutely adored him laid the foundation of this particular debacle.

Diana also emphatically denied that she had any input into Andrew Morton's unauthorised biogaraphy of her. At the time most people angered by the book grudgingly believed her. She claimed her innocence as a woman victimised by lies. Then came Morton with the galleys with her handwritten notes . . . . . .

Diana had shown herself a public liar and unfortunately now, when Hewitt hints at a much earlier date for their first meeting . . . . . .
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