The Royal Forums Coat of Arms


Join The Royal Forums Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
  #861  
Old 03-30-2008, 07:00 PM
Thomas Parkman's Avatar
Courtier
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Columbia, United States
Posts: 531
Well, good people, this premise or question that is the basis for this thread is not only silly but vulgar beyond redemption. Tacky, that is the wordl. Cheers.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #862  
Old 03-30-2008, 08:51 PM
Roslyn's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Tintenbar, Australia
Posts: 3,937
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas Parkman View Post
Well, good people, this premise or question that is the basis for this thread is not only silly but vulgar beyond redemption. Tacky, that is the wordl. Cheers.
So we shouldn't ask questions lest we be labelled silly, vulgar or tacky for asking them? Do you want to take all the fun out of life, Thomas?
__________________

__________________
"That's it then. Cancel the kitchen scraps for lepers and orphans, no more merciful beheadings, -- and call off Christmas!!!"
Reply With Quote
  #863  
Old 04-01-2008, 10:42 AM
Thomas Parkman's Avatar
Courtier
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Columbia, United States
Posts: 531
Oh good heaves, of course not!!! There is a difference betweet fun and vulgarity. I myself can be just as bawdy and as ridiculous as the rest. But this subject is not only speculation it is also profoundly hurtful and humiliating. I realize that the RF live under a spotlight and microscope all the time but shouldn't there be some limits of decency. After all canning one of EII's tiaras or some other defenseless royal, as I have done, and done viciously and with riotous abandon I might add is not quite the same thing as this.

So of course we should have fun and enjoy ourselves. I refer you to some of my raunchier and ridiculous postings on the Royal Jewels Forum. I think you can even pull up my name and read them. May I suggest that you find my comments about Mr. Brad Pitt and a suggestion for an emerald fig leaf-a minor literary masterpiece if I do say so myself- to dispell any illusions about my gentility. Or my confessions about chewing on the carpet along dotted lines when in Lyme rages. It should all reveal a depth of sheer silliness you have never imagined. And then there is chocolate ice cream and the little men in white suits. Cheer.s
Reply With Quote
  #864  
Old 04-24-2008, 05:53 PM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheTruth View Post
Yes, the situation is really awkward when you know what's been going on.

What's rather amazing with their affair is that it was kept secret for so long. I find it hard to believe that no one except a few members and friends of Diana's knew about it. I tend to think some people of the press were perfectly aware of the love affair but that's where Diana's relations with newspapers editors intervened. It's been already proved that she didn't hesitate to use the press for her own purposes. That wouldn't surprise me if she had on this matter as well.
I don't think it was a secret. If it was it was definitely in the category of an "open well known secret". Due to the security around Charles and Diana and all royal members,I would imagine Charles knew. Most of those around him were pretty loyal and when the affair started the "his" and "her" camp hadn't broken off yet. So he knew. He probably justified his own affair by it. As for the press, I don't think they knew. At least not until things started leaking in the early 90's. The same security would have been very protective of her and her secrets. They helped them sneak around, at least per James Hewitt's book. Even Andrew Morton discussed how secretive things had to be.
Reply With Quote
  #865  
Old 04-24-2008, 06:42 PM
TheTruth's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Between the first and second floor of the Eiffel Tower, France
Posts: 2,680
Charles knew, I didn't/don't contest that. Hewitt even told that he was part of Diana's life the same way Camilla was in Charles's. Moreover, I doubt Charles was upset or mad about it. The couple was already in piece way back then.
__________________

Please, help find a cure for ALS

Because it matters...
Reply With Quote
  #866  
Old 06-06-2008, 11:11 AM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Douglas, United States
Posts: 1
Harry's Paternity

I finished reading Christopher Andersen's book After Diana. After comparing pictures, I believe Harry looks like his uncle, Charles Spenser, and his grandfather Spenser not James Hewitt.
Reply With Quote
  #867  
Old 06-10-2008, 02:29 AM
Nitefeatherz's Avatar
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: NY, United States
Posts: 169
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas Parkman View Post
Oh good heavens
Well said! I am one who also loves a bit of gossip or an active discussion but I absolutely abhor any kind of news that seems to be deliberately hurtful and shows absolutely no potential for a positive influence.

Honestly this seems to be a waste of time, effort and emotional baggage for poor Harry and the RF and it should be for anyone else as well.

I would also like to say...it shouldn't be chocolate ice cream it should be mint chocolate chip ice cream with godiva dark chocolate caramels and grande mintes with lots of cola... yum!!! (And the men don't wear white coats where I come from... the men in coats that chase you are wearing blue very clearly enough with shiny badges!! Hehe.
__________________
The shoe that fits one person pinches another; there is no recipe for living that suits all cases.
-Carl Gustav Jung
Do what you feel in your heart to be right for you'll be criticized anyway. You'll be damned if you do and damned if you don't.
-Eleanor Roosevelt
Reply With Quote
  #868  
Old 06-10-2008, 07:01 PM
tan_berry's Avatar
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic
Posts: 250
Quote:
Originally Posted by fishingnut18 View Post
I finished reading Christopher Andersen's book After Diana. After comparing pictures, I believe Harry looks like his uncle, Charles Spenser, and his grandfather Spenser not James Hewitt.


Especially his Spencer grandfather. And finally, where are the promised photos of prince Charles when child and young boy?
__________________
We men build too many walls and not enough bridges. Sir Isaac Newton
Reply With Quote
  #869  
Old 06-11-2008, 03:13 AM
Menarue's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Cascais, Portugal
Posts: 2,155
I think they look like two peas in a pod but what difference does that make?
Prince Charles is his father and this questioning of a young Prince´s paternity can really only be hurtful to the young man in person. Being the youngest son is difficult enough but questioning if he is really royal is a useless exercise and must be extremely vexing to the royal family. Look at the photos and speculate but accept what the royal family has, he is Prince Charles´s son and the subject should be left at that.
Reply With Quote
  #870  
Old 06-11-2008, 05:37 AM
Skydragon's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: London and Highlands, United Kingdom
Posts: 10,945
Quote:
Originally Posted by fishingnut18 View Post
I finished reading Christopher Andersen's book After Diana. After comparing pictures, I believe Harry looks like his uncle, Charles Spenser, and his grandfather Spenser not James Hewitt.
I think we covered that his mother was a Spencer and that could be why he looks like a Spencer!
Reply With Quote
  #871  
Old 06-11-2008, 09:09 AM
MARG's Avatar
Majesty
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Christchurch, New Zealand
Posts: 6,048
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skydragon View Post
I think we covered that his mother was a Spencer and that could be why he looks like a Spencer!
And that, as they say, is that.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas Parkman
There is a difference betweet fun and vulgarity. I myself can be just as bawdy and as ridiculous as the rest. But this subject is not only speculation it is also profoundly hurtful and humiliating. I realize that the RF live under a spotlight and microscope all the time but shouldn't there be some limits of decency?
Mea culpa Thomas. Moving on.
__________________
MARG
"Words ought to be a little wild, for they are assaults of thoughts on the unthinking." - JM Keynes
Reply With Quote
  #872  
Old 06-12-2008, 01:40 PM
tan_berry's Avatar
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic
Posts: 250
Yesterday I saw the picture of Harris in the Forbes list of the young royals, where he is number two, a frontal close up, and the resemblance with prince Charles is big, in the shape and the position of the eyes, especially, as it has been pointed many times in this forum before.
__________________
We men build too many walls and not enough bridges. Sir Isaac Newton
Reply With Quote
  #873  
Old 06-12-2008, 02:24 PM
Commoner
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Southend-on-sea, United Kingdom
Posts: 45
Some years ago a German magazine, possibly Frau Spiegal published two photographs. One was the late Duke of Windsor as a lad of approximately 18 years old, and the other was Prince Harry, both in profile.
Clearly Harry is a Windsor, he is throwback in looks to past generations of the Royal Family.
Taree
Reply With Quote
  #874  
Old 06-26-2008, 04:44 AM
Jo of Palatine's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Munich, Germany
Posts: 3,323
I just learned that the DNA of the Duke of Edinburgh is in the possession of a commercial lab.

I can't imagine that the rats of the media wouldn't get as far as paying for a check of Harry's DNA with that of his grandfather. Just imagine the scandal! How many more papers you could sell if there was proof that Harry is not Charles' son. Many, many "delightful" stories to follow up etc...

My very personal guess is that somebody already got a sample of Harry's DNA and had it checked and that it turned out that Harry is in fact paternally related to the DoE. So no story, no fun, no money. And they can't even publish the results as this would be sooo disgusting! Noone is going to admit having done a stunt like that when the results are that the young man is in fact who his family claims.
__________________
'To dare is to lose one step for but a moment, not to dare is to lose oneself forever' - Crown Prince Frederick of Denmark in a letter to Miss Mary Donaldson as stated by them on their official engagement interview.
Reply With Quote
  #875  
Old 06-26-2008, 02:20 PM
TonyaR's Avatar
Nobility
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: *, United States
Posts: 328
Jo, thank you for that information. My personal guess is exactly the same, that Prince Harry is in fact the grandson of the DoE and the son of the PoW. As Harry gets older, he looks more and more like a Windsor. I have the feeling that as he ages, Harry's Windsor bloodlines will become more apparent. He most definitely has Prince Phillip's eyebrows!
__________________
“Promise me you'll always remember: You're braver than you believe, ..stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think.”
~Christopher Robin to Pooh
(A.A. Milne)
Reply With Quote
  #876  
Old 06-26-2008, 03:21 PM
Skydragon's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: London and Highlands, United Kingdom
Posts: 10,945
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jo of Palatine View Post
My very personal guess is that somebody already got a sample of Harry's DNA and had it checked and that it turned out that Harry is in fact paternally related to the DoE. So no story, no fun, no money. And they can't even publish the results as this would be sooo disgusting! Noone is going to admit having done a stunt like that when the results are that the young man is in fact who his family claims.
But Jo, if it showed that he was not in fact related to the Windsors, even then they couldn't print it without admitting to theft and of course, who would believe them, someone would suggest that it was a cover! It is public record that Philips DNA was used to prove/disprove whether the bodies found in Russia were the former Tzar and/or his family.
DNA tests finally solve the riddle of what happened to the last tsar's two children | Mail Online
Famous DNA
Reply With Quote
  #877  
Old 07-14-2008, 11:33 AM
TheTruth's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Between the first and second floor of the Eiffel Tower, France
Posts: 2,680
Quote:
Originally Posted by fishingnut18 View Post
I finished reading Christopher Andersen's book After Diana. After comparing pictures, I believe Harry looks like his uncle, Charles Spenser, and his grandfather Spenser not James Hewitt.
Christopher Andersen seems highly convinced that Hewitt is Harry's father though. See Author Q&A: Christopher Andersen Author of 'After Diana' (2 of 2) - AOL Coaches :

Quote:
For years, both Diana and Hewitt said they met in l986, two years after Harry was born. But now Hewitt admits that their affair actually began in mid-l982, and others have confirmed this. When you put that together with the fact that Hewitt was the first person outside the immediate family Diana called to tell she was pregnant a second time and her statement that from the moment Charles looked at Harry for the first time in the hospital the marriage "went straight downhill," there is ample evidence that Hewitt may indeed be Harry's dad.
Now I would really like to know how he figured out Diana had called Hewitt to tell him she was pregnant. A friend of a friend surely told him, right ?


I also found this painting of Diana's father (Edward John Spencer, 8th Earl Spencer, known as Johnnie Spencer) :
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...e/P1010420.jpg
His face is so 'James Hewitt', IMO. The so-called resemblance Hewitt has with Harry is very likely to come from here.
__________________

Please, help find a cure for ALS

Because it matters...
Reply With Quote
  #878  
Old 07-14-2008, 03:14 PM
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Oxford, United Kingdom
Posts: 125
Harry is all Spencer - to be honest I can't believe people are still going on about this.

The Truth's pciture of Johnny Spencer just speaks volume
Reply With Quote
  #879  
Old 07-14-2008, 04:00 PM
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: ***, United States
Posts: 16,894
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skydragon View Post
But Jo, if it showed that he was not in fact related to the Windsors, even then they couldn't print it without admitting to theft and of course, who would believe them, someone would suggest that it was a cover! It is public record that Philips DNA was used to prove/disprove whether the bodies found in Russia were the former Tzar and/or his family.
DNA tests finally solve the riddle of what happened to the last tsar's two children | Mail Online
Famous DNA

I don`t know what other analyses were done on Prince Philip`s blood sample, but for the comparison with the Tsar`s alleged descendants, they just did a mitochondrial DNA analysis. That wouldn`t prove anything where Harry was concerned, because mitochondrial DNA is inherited through the maternal line and Harry isn`t related to Prince Philip through the maternal line. mtDNA can`t be used to prove paternity; it`d have to be a nuclear DNA analysis. I don`t know if that was ever done for Prince Philip.

So if some bright spark did get hold of some hairs or a fresh blood sample or something of Harry`s and ran an mtDNA analysis, it would be virtually certain to show a mismatch with Prince Philip`s mtDNA because Prince Philip is related to Harry through the male line and mtDNA is inherited through the female line. Not that I`d expect a newspaper headline to mention that little fact, though.
Reply With Quote
  #880  
Old 07-14-2008, 05:10 PM
Duchess's Avatar
Royal Highness
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: xx, Canada
Posts: 1,649
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemon Lyman View Post
Harry is all Spencer - to be honest I can't believe people are still going on about this.

The Truth's pciture of Johnny Spencer just speaks volume
no one is saying that he isn't a spencer...the dispute is that he may not be a windsor. there's no denying he looks like his uncle charles or his grandfather spencer...it's resemblance to hewitt that is making people question who his father may or may not be.
__________________

__________________
Duchess
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
diana princess of wales, extramarital affair, james hewitt, paternity, prince charles, prince harry, prince of wales, princess diana


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
James Carnegie, 3rd Duke of Fife (1929-2015) and Family betina British Royals 30 07-06-2015 10:12 AM
James and Julia Ogilvy and Family News 1: December 2003- flirtmooni British Royals 19 05-09-2014 06:23 AM
Why do you like Diana? juliamontague Diana, Princess of Wales (1961-1997) 222 12-21-2011 03:40 AM
Sophie Gives Birth to a Son: James Alexander Philip Theo, Viscount Severn - 17.12.07 BeatrixFan The Earl and Countess of Wessex and Family 237 01-27-2008 06:11 AM
James James Mclean Member Introductions 1 10-30-2007 06:19 PM




Popular Tags
ascot 2016 best gown best gown september 2016 best hat best outfit best outfit september catherine middleton style coup d'etat crown prince haakon crown princess mary crown princess mary fashion crown princess mette-marit crown princess victoria's maternity fashion current events duchess of cambridge e-mail fashion poll grand duke jean greece jubilee celebration kate middleton king abdullah ii king felipe king felipe vi king willem-alexander member introduction military monarchy new zealand nobel gala norway november 2016 october 2016 opening of parliament picture of the week prince bernhard prince charles princess madeleine princess marie princess mary princess mary daytime fashion princess mary fashion princess mary hats queen letizia queen letizia casual outfits queen letizia daytime fashion queen letizia fashion queen letizia style queen mathilde queen mathilde daytime fashion queen mathildes outfits queen maxima queen maxima casual wear queen maxima daytime fashion queen maxima fashion queen maxima hats queen maxima style queen rania queen rania style royal fashion september 2016 state visit state visit to denmark succession sweden the duchess of cambridge the duchess of cambridge casual wear the duchess of cambridge daytime fashion the duchess of cambridge fashion the duchess of cambridge hats


Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:18 AM.

Social Knowledge Networks

eXTReMe Tracker
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2016
Jelsoft Enterprises