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Old 11-22-2007, 01:02 AM
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I don't know why you feel the need of an 'up close and personal' remark, many people have shaken hands with Harry but would not term it as either 'up close' or 'personal', or is your presumption that nobody else could possibly have had contact with Charles and Harry?

You think he looked like a Windsor but, many people see what they expect or want to see.
1. An 'up close and personal' remark suited my purposes as it demonstrated that I wasn't basing my opinion on photographs, alone.

2. I didn't presume, contend, suggest, imply or infer that nobody else had had contact with Charles and Harry. Why would I? For starters, I don't think it very probable, you know.

3. I didn't expect to see anything at all other than a young English prince. I certainly didn't examine his visage, as it were. He seemed enough his father's son to me, that's all.
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Old 11-22-2007, 02:33 AM
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We know he's not Hewitt's; royals routinely get a paternity test right after birth.
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Old 11-22-2007, 02:37 AM
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We know he's not Hewitt's; royals routinely get a paternity test right after birth.
Really? how do you know this?
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Old 11-22-2007, 06:44 AM
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1. An 'up close and personal' remark suited my purposes as it demonstrated that I wasn't basing my opinion on photographs, alone.......

3....... He seemed enough his father's son to me, that's all
Would that be based on photographs?
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Paternity tests, as we have discussed before, are a fairly new thing.
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Old 11-22-2007, 08:51 PM
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I'm not quite sure that I understand what you mean, Skydragon, but if you mean what I think that you mean, then the answer is 'no'.
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:03 AM
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In a recent posting of pictures of the Diamond Wedding celebrations there was a full face picture of Prince Harry. Take away the red hair and substitute blonde and it could be Prince Phillip at that age. His Mother did,after all,have a family,indeed a family where red hair is quite prevalent.I also do not believe Diana cheated on the POW until after the "heir and spare" were born. It would have been totally against her upbringing and family pride.
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:07 AM
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Lightbulb Hasn't this subject been done to death, and beyond?

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This is really ridiculous, have they seen Prince Harry's recent picture? His resemblance to his father is really striking. If they alleged Prince Harry is Hewitt's son, I'm going to start thinking of the possibility only if they prove Hewitt is in turn Prince Philip's love child, because Prince Harry does resemble his father and grandfather quite a lot.
I quite agree with you, here!

Hasn't Prince Harry's parentage ALREADY been proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt?

I feel as though people want to flog dead horses, as we say.

Harry is undoubtedly his Father's, Prince Charles', SON.

I should think The Media would be well advised to leave him alone regarding his parentage.
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:44 AM
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It would have been totally against her upbringing and family pride.
Many children were and are foisted off within many families as being the child of the husband, upbringing would have had nothing to do with it.
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Hasn't Prince Harry's parentage ALREADY been proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt?
No, put simply, it hasn't.
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Old 11-23-2007, 09:25 AM
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i think it would be more accurate to say that if it has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, the parties that have the proof haven't, and won't make it public knowledge.
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Old 11-23-2007, 09:52 AM
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Many children were and are foisted off within many families as being the child of the husband, upbringing would have had nothing to do with it.
I think we should stop talking about biological parenthood here. There are biological fathers who don't care one bit about their children and stepfathers who adore the kids not created by them.

Legally Harry is the son of the Prince of Wales. He is acknowledged and is treated as such. It's not Harry's fault that his mother is deemed capable of foistering a bastard on her husband and it's not Charles' fault that despite all he has done for Harry he is still regarded as a potentially cuckolded "father". In any case Charles and the Royal family have behaved not only perfectly well-mannered but warmly and lovingly whatever their misgivings may have been and IMHO it's only polite to follow their lead. But of course the topic is unfortunately one one can pretty well discuss about.
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Old 11-24-2007, 08:10 PM
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Wow, can you imagine being thrust in the public eye, from the moment you were born, with the nickname "the spare". Every little nasty habit or charming trait you possess tabloid fodder from the time you start drooling as an infant.
You happen to have red hair, whereas your older brother and mother are blondes and your father has brown hair. BTW, you have this red hair from your very first baby picture that the public has ever seen. Your parents marriage breaks up in a nasty public manner, difficult for any child, but well after you have been born. Insults being flung back and forth. Extramarital affairs bantered about--and then, then after enduring all of that, rumors start that your father is not your father. Unbelievable.
Now, Buckingham Palace is a crafty bunch, for sure! The moment there was a whiff that Diana had an affair, wouldn't they be all over the possibility of one, or both of the boys not being royal. To really digress on a tangent here, I believe there was speculation in Belgium that Prince Laurent was not the Kings son and that is why King Baudoin changed the line of succession for Princess Astrid to come before her brother Prince Laurent (I personally think it's because she could have secured the line at that point b/c neither one of her brothers were married, but whatever. And Seriously, look at Prince Laurent, he is the Spitting image of the king) My point is, Buckingham palace had to be ALL over these rumors when they came out.
Both Diana and Hewitt went on public record saying when their relationship started.
Poor Harry, it's bad enough his late nights out with friends wind up on the cover of every newspaper in Britain (that's why it's good to be the spare I guess---look at the "Margaret Set") but seriously, to have his identity still questioned for the sole purpose of selling books or magazines is just mean. I guess I shouldn't be shocked but the press, but I still am.

----Okay--I will hop off my soapbox now--lol
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Old 11-25-2007, 04:56 PM
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Ok heres the Truth Ready: in 1984 a boy was born with red hair the Spencers have red hair ........and he has Windsor Eyes nose and mouth so I Can Honestly say The Prince of Wales is his father,Until honestly provem otherwise.
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Old 11-25-2007, 08:13 PM
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27 pages of ad nausem! (Where is that barfing smiley when you need him???)
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Old 12-09-2007, 01:32 PM
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In all areas of royal history there have been cover-ups for children's legalities with regards to public image and thought. King Henry VIII had a few children with mistresses which were not to be heard of. Do you really think that Prince Charles would ever let it slip if this was the case? Or, even more than that do you think The Queen would ever allow this information to be made public, if indeed, it's even true.
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Old 12-10-2007, 09:26 PM
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In all areas of royal history there have been cover-ups for children's legalities with regards to public image and thought. King Henry VIII had a few children with mistresses which were not to be heard of. Do you really think that Prince Charles would ever let it slip if this was the case? Or, even more than that do you think The Queen would ever allow this information to be made public, if indeed, it's even true.
I beg to differ there. Henry flaunted the fact that he had an illegitimate son to Katherine of Aragon by Elizabeth Blount (see Tudor Monarchs: King Henry VIII ) and I'm sure others of the court were well aware that Henry FitzRoy (literally "Son of the King") existed and enjoyed the King's favor.
Until somebody puts proof of a DNA paternity test with Hewitt's name on it in front of me, Harry is Charles' son.
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Old 12-10-2007, 09:43 PM
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Princess Mary has a son Christian who has blonde hair while she and her husband are brunettes. But no one is doubting that he is Fredrick's son.
Harry inherited the red hair from his mother. Harry also has many windsor-mountbatten traits from his father Charles.
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Old 12-11-2007, 12:55 AM
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What bothers me is how Hewitt has remained on (or very close to) the scene. He has never completely disappeared..and supposedly his signet ring was in the very important mahogany box in the possession of Paul Burrell.
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Old 12-11-2007, 01:12 AM
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By all intents and purposes this seems to be the main thrust of this thread. Without the facts, the protaganists are doing just this.
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Old 12-11-2007, 01:49 AM
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These speculations will never be put to rest until and unless a paternity test is performed. And there's no chance of that ever happening to a royal.
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Old 12-11-2007, 11:07 AM
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I think they will eventually be put to rest by Prince Harry's physical appearance. As he gets older his resemblance to his Windsor and Mountbatten family members becomes more apparent and more pronounced. He looks a lot like Prince Phillip, especially his eyebrows, his browbone and his eyes. He also looks like Prince Phillip in profile. The photo below shows a remarkable resemblance to his father and his paternal grandfather.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...arrydiving.jpg
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