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Old 12-13-2014, 07:16 PM
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Diana seemed to be much more interested in people than in animals. I'm not sure that I believe this story about her and Dodi being involved in this film.

That's true, but I do indeed remember reading about the possibility of a film about elephants to in the last few weeks before the tragedy, when Diana's relationship with Dodi was heating up.

It was allegedly a project that they were going to work on together. It seems like something that was right up Dodi's alley. He was known for being a very passionate lover of animals all his life. I think Diana's star power was going to be used to put the spotlight on the issue.
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Old 12-13-2014, 07:34 PM
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That's true, but I do indeed remember reading about the possibility of a film about elephants to in the last few weeks before the tragedy, when Diana's relationship with Dodi was heating up.

It was allegedly a project that they were going to work on together. It seems like something that was right up Dodi's alley. He was known for being a very passionate lover of animals all his life. I think Diana's star power was going to be used to put the spotlight on the issue.

If the plan did exist. I was very surprise why the movie hadn't been finished at the end. You know, if the producer let the public know it was one of Diana's last wishes to make this movie, and plus that the topic of the movie is really positive, considering the sentiment around the time--right after her death, this movie could haven been one of the best seated movies of the history. Just look at Elton John's Candle in the Wind, which is so far still the best sold single of the whole history.
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Old 12-13-2014, 09:13 PM
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I hate "Candle in the Wind" more than words can say...it makes me cringe every time I hear it that schlocky, awful mess of a song!



But I agree...the curiosity factor for the Diana/Dodi would have driven sales sky high.
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Old 12-16-2014, 11:07 AM
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The charity Diana talked to Richard Kay on the phone 6 hours before her accident, turns out to be an charitable institude for victims of landmines, rather than a global hospics. If you go to read the who transcript of the hearing, you would know that. However, the british media collaborately failed to report this. Hmm, I found it hard not to ask why.
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:38 PM
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[QUOTE=Moonmaiden23;1730777]I hate "Candle in the Wind" more than words can say...it makes me cringe every time I hear it that schlocky, awful mess of a song![QUOTE]

Oh, me, too. I was embarrassed that he was allowed to sing it in the Abbey.
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Old 12-19-2014, 02:29 AM
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Concerning about Diana's saying to paparazzi "you would be surprised what I will do next" in her last summer, finally, it seems the myth is solved.

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3 A. Thinking back now over the years, it was something like,
4 "I'm going to shock them" or words to that effect, "I'm
5 going to shock them", or "I'm going to tell them", and
6 "Shock them or tell them" or "I'm going to give them
7 what they" -- something along those lines, "I'm telling
8 them I'm going to America".

9 Q. So she in effect was saying she was going to tell the
10 press about going to live in America?
11 A. That's -- after that conversation, that's what I assumed
12 she was going to say, by what she said to me, and we
13 were thinking, you know, this is going to stir up
14 a hornets' nest with the paparazzi. So I recall when
15 she went out there and when she came back, she didn't
16 say it, as I know now, and I remember the Royal
17 Protection officer, I can't remember his name, getting
18 off the boat and saying, "she didn't do it" and we were
19 like --
20 Q. Phew?
21 A. Yes.
22 Q. So in this second conversation, she said something to
23 the effect that she was going to tell the press about
24 going to America, she went out there but you
25 subsequently learned that she didn't in fact do what she

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Old 12-20-2014, 07:47 PM
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She also gave an interview before her death in which she said that she'd never leave Britain because of her sons.I can see her keeping a part-time home in the US, for vacations.

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Old 12-20-2014, 08:25 PM
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She also gave an interview before her death in which she said that she'd never leave Britain because of her sons.I can see her keeping a part-time home in the US, for vacations.

Di's Last Interview - Philly.com
Perhaps none of it was meant as moving any kind of residence to the US. Reading the various quotes, perhaps it had a totally different meaning.

"I'm going to shock them" or words to that effect, "I'm going to shock them", or "I'm going to tell them", and "Shock them or tell them" or "I'm going to give them what they" -- something along those lines, "I'm telling them I'm going to America"

There were different "stories" floating around in this or one of the Diana threads about her conspiring with Dodi, a film producer in California, about making a movie about an elephant. If she was to work with him on this project, she would have been going to America for that purpose.

I'm more inclined to believe something like this rather than that there was something serious going on between Diana and Dodi. Perhaps Dodi was schmoozing and wining and dining Diana as producers somehow do to get a production to be a huge success. No matter what we think now, back at that time having Diana. Princess of Wales as a backer for anything would sell like hotcakes.

There is no way I think that Diana would ever have moved to a country away from her sons.
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Old 12-20-2014, 08:37 PM
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IIRC her friend Lucia de Flima or something like that (I think?) who spoke to Diana not long before her death stated that she and Diana had discussed Dodi and Diana was not serious about him.


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Old 07-13-2017, 12:31 PM
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Perhaps none of it was meant as moving any kind of residence to the US. Reading the various quotes, perhaps it had a totally different meaning.

I'm more inclined to believe something like this rather than that there was something serious going on between Diana and Dodi. Perhaps Dodi was schmoozing and wining and dining Diana as producers somehow do to get a production to be a huge success. No matter what we think now, back at that time having Diana. Princess of Wales as a backer for anything would sell like hotcakes.

There is no way I think that Diana would ever have moved to a country away from her sons.
No they were seeing each other romantically. Dodi wasn't a real producer, though he may have tried. he was billed a producer because his fathers money was put into films and it gave him something to call himself.. when he had clearly got no business talent.
I don't know if the relationship would have lasted long, problaby not, but it was a brief flirtation, not a "business proposition relationship".
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Old 07-13-2017, 01:00 PM
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When we really think about it, alongside the summer fling, there could have been ulterior motives that lurked in the back of the parties involved minds.

Diana: was looking for some good publicity to overshadow Camilla's 50th birthday. Perhaps she also saw the relationship as a means to being able to propagate and generate awareness for some of the causes that were near and dear to her heart at the time. I believe its called "schmoozing".

Dodi: well... Dodi was Dodi and did what Daddy told him to do. He was never averse to being with a pretty woman to flatter and have on his arm. Also proved to be quite fickle as when the vacation with Diana started, he was engaged to another person. Being a producer was something he played with and of course was backed by Daddy's money.

Mohamed Al Fayed: Wants so badly to be ingrained into British society and its never going to happen. He's been turned down twice for British citizenship and it would have been a huge feather in his cap to have Diana, Princess of Wales as a daughter in law. Of course, should that happen she'd just be Diana Al Fayed but that's besides the point as far as his machinations went. I do seriously believe that it was dear ol' Daddy that made the Diana/Dodi romance much more than it was.

The romance was actually a very short one and who knows what would have happened if that accident in Paris never occurred.
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Old 07-14-2017, 12:36 AM
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I doubt if Diana really saw Dodi as being any great help in her work, maybe she tried to convince herself but I get the impression that while good nautred and pleasant he wasn't at all any use at anything! I think that Diana was indeed looking for something that would take her mind off Chas and Camilla and was beginning to see that Khan wasn't ever goig to take their romance to another level.. And Di did want to knock the "Camillas birthday" story off the front page. So her teasing reporters, was probably to do with that.
And maybe she convinced herself that Dodi was a nice fellow, she liked him, and tat maybe if their romance worked out she would have a very rich husband, be connected to the "Harrods owning family", and be wealthy enough from her husbands side...to be noticed as a rival to the RF, instead of much of her wealth coming from them.
She would be photographed and socialise in the celeb world, and she'd have enough money to do a lot of charity work that woul get her noticed (NOT that I means she only did charity wrork to get noticed) but she would be able to say (as apparently was mooted) set up some kind of big foundation and I think she hoped that Dodi would be good natured enough to go along with that and do engagements with her - and she woud have a secure financial base that was not dependent on the English aristocracy or the RF. Of course it wouldn't be quite what she was used to, but she was hoping that it would make up for the coolness of the RF and many of the British upper crust.
I thnk she did genuinely like Dodi and perhaps managed to "forget" or not know about his girlfriend.. and he liked her enough to do what his father was ordering and have a relationship with her.
But the indications are that she was getting a bit fed up with Dodi by te end of her holiday, that his messy way of living and his fussing over things got on her nerves and perhaps she realised that the Fayeds were mainly courting her for her position and she didn't want to become one of them..
But we don't really know. Maybe Dodi was preparing to propose in a little while and she might have considered him seriously as a suitor.
but it was definteily a romantic relationship, not Diana wanting to make a film. I'd say that in any case her divorce settlement would have restiricted her form doing various things like that.
I've never heard of her being that interested in "elephants" or the like, and I would say that the only films she would have been allowed to do would be something like a serious documentary on a non controversial charity theme. I can't imagine she was really all that optimisitic that Dodi would be into that sort of thing or a partner in charity work
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Old 07-17-2017, 05:53 PM
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I think that Dodi was okay for Diana as a summer companion, but I can't imagine the two of them married--even after 20 years. My initial reaction that summer was "Oh No!" I knew enough about British news to have heard about the trouble that Dodi's father had caused in the "cash for questions" debacle as well as his inability to get British citizenship. Diana certainly didn't lack her own financial resources if she wanted to produce documentaries and so didn't need the Fayeds for that.
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Dodi was a fling...and an attempt by Diana to make Hasnat Khan jealous.



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Old 07-17-2017, 07:14 PM
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When we really think about it, alongside the summer fling, there could have been ulterior motives that lurked in the back of the parties involved minds.

Diana: was looking for some good publicity to overshadow Camilla's 50th birthday. Perhaps she also saw the relationship as a means to being able to propagate and generate awareness for some of the causes that were near and dear to her heart at the time. I believe its called "schmoozing".

Dodi: well... Dodi was Dodi and did what Daddy told him to do. He was never averse to being with a pretty woman to flatter and have on his arm. Also proved to be quite fickle as when the vacation with Diana started, he was engaged to another person. Being a producer was something he played with and of course was backed by Daddy's money.

Mohamed Al Fayed: Wants so badly to be ingrained into British society and its never going to happen. He's been turned down twice for British citizenship and it would have been a huge feather in his cap to have Diana, Princess of Wales as a daughter in law. Of course, should that happen she'd just be Diana Al Fayed but that's besides the point as far as his machinations went. I do seriously believe that it was dear ol' Daddy that made the Diana/Dodi romance much more than it was.

The romance was actually a very short one and who knows what would have happened if that accident in Paris never occurred.
Well i always thought that the Al Fayeds somewhat manipulated Diana, and that Diana manipulated the Al Fayeds. On the paper it was a win win situation i guess : publicity and a slap to the Britsih establishment on one side, overshadowing Camilla's birthday and probably making Khan jealous on the other.
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I personally feel that the British Government, Western governments including some in the U.S.,other observers and the media, and the BRF (especially Philip, Charles, Queen Mother, Margaret, Anne and Andrew) probably did not like the potential of the mother of the future King dating and potentially marrying a Muslim.

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They were a long way off from talking marriage...if ever. She was still hung up on Hasnat.


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They were a long way off from talking marriage...if ever. She was still hung up on Hasnat.


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True. The Queen Mother and Margaret would have thrown a fit. To see the mother of their beloved great-grandson and grandnephew William, marry a Muslim may have angered them, despite the fact that she was not married into their family anymore.
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When we think about it, there is nothing that would bar Diana from marrying anyone she chose to. She was no longer under any kind of jurisdiction of the UK government or the monarchy. They might not have liked the idea but there was nothing much they could have done to prevent it.

I also don't believe that Diana was anywhere near thinking of marrying Dodi. He was a "filler" for that summer and by the end of the vacation, she was looking forward to getting back home and back to her own life.
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