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Old 06-30-2017, 07:19 PM
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Thanks, Sun Lion. Interesting. I'll be watching!
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Old 06-30-2017, 08:41 PM
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ABC in Australia will be broadcasting the British two-part documentary "Diana - Seven Days That Shook The World" starting this Tuesday.

Was shown in the UK last month.

Airdate: Diana: Seven Days that Shook the World – TV Tonight
If I hadn't experienced it when it was happening I'd probably want to watch, but I don't think I want to go through it again. That was a sad week.
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Old 06-30-2017, 09:17 PM
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There is nothing wrong with it.

The point a few people were making is that the kids will not take anything from it. They are too young. People were going on about how special, and the kids hearing the stories, and knowing how great she was. Realistically they are too young. Just like your kids, in a few years they aren't likely to even remember. I went to my grandfathers funeral at George's age. The only reason I know I did is because my dad tells me. I have very vague memories of the man and none of his funeral. The kids are not going to get the significance of the event, or understand. Honestly they will enjoy running around Althorope on a sunny day.

If they want to take the kids, wonderful. Definitely their decision. But hopefully they take the kids there in a few years when a bit older, to understand. Then they will be old enough to understand what Diana did. But a nice day to see their extended family and play with the likes of Earl Spenvers little girl, never goes wrong. Sure the Spencer's will be happy to see her grandkids.
I agree, there's nothing wrong with the children being there, but it won't be meaningful for them because they're so young.

Whether or not they decide to bring the children to the actual service, I'm sure it will be very poignant and bittersweet for William to remember what must be the worst point of his life while at the same time finding so much joy in George and Charlotte. It's really too bad that he doesn't get to share that joy with his mother.
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Old 06-30-2017, 09:39 PM
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I think they should take the children. Diana would like nothing more than those two running around and playing as some minister drones on.

Also, in fifteen or twenty years' time, those two children will be very pleased to find out that they were brought along to their granny's 20th anniversary memorial service.
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Old 06-30-2017, 09:46 PM
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For anyone; it's available on YouTube.
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Old 06-30-2017, 10:41 PM
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The families really don't have a rift with each other. Earl Spencer cleared that up a while back.

Yes, Lord and Lady Fellowes were at Royal Ascot in the carriage possession on Day 1 with the Cambridge's and Charles and Camilla. Lord Fellowes used to be the Private Secretary to The Queen and he still remains in the Royal Household as an advisor to Her Majesty.
Fellows is not a Spencer and I don't get the feeling that the queen and Charles S are on great terms. They will be polite if they meet but are hardly going to be best friends.
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Old 06-30-2017, 10:48 PM
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Fellows is not a Spencer and I don't get the feeling that the queen and Charles S are on great terms. They will be polite if they meet but are hardly going to be best friends.
Robert Fellowes actually is a member of the Spencer family by marriage. He is married to Diana's sister Jane. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the Fellowes family are there en masse for the memorial service at Althorp.

BTW: the Queen is Charles Spencer's godmother.
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Old 06-30-2017, 11:32 PM
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Hes not an actual Spencer, any more than Diana was a Windsor. It has been said that there were issues between him and Jane over Diana, because as a courtier his loyalty was to the queen, and Diana was disrespecting the queen. So IMO he is problaby not on the Spencer side of the fence if they are still unhappy with the RF and the queen. And yes the queen's Charles Spencers' godmother, but IMO se was very displeased with his speech at Diana's funeral and I don't think they've ever completely gotten over that.
I don't really understand this "re dedication" of the Grave.. why not just have a prayer service at the graveside or in the local church?
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Old 06-30-2017, 11:48 PM
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Probably for the same reasons that couples renew their wedding vows.

Y'know, I find it hard to believe that there would be still animosity between the members of the family over something that happened 20 years ago. Fences are broken down and mended all the time and life goes on.

Thinking about the familial relationships and whether a Spencer or a Windsor, Robert Fellowes is as much William and Harry's uncle as Sophie Wessex is their aunt. Families don't usually go by "sides" when it comes to familial matters. Family is family period.
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well not according to some reports.. Fellowes worked for the queen and was loyal to her and it is said that Jane Fellowes was in a cleft stick between her husband and her family/sister.
And in laws are often not that close to their families..
I don't say that there is "animosity" as such but I don't think relations are too close.
I don't believe the Spencers have all much to do with even Harry and William, nowadays,much less with the queen.
But I don't udnerstand the rededication of the grave. its consecrated, its hallowed ground. if they wanted to have a prayer service by the grave every years on say Di's birthday that's what some people would do.. but I have not heard of this happening.. so I'm not sure why it is happening now with a rededication service...
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Perhaps they are moving her to another location on the island, with smart new reconstructed surroundings, gravestone etc. (You know what my beliefs are regarding her body's true location anyway, don't you, Denville?) Anyway, if she's been moved, even slightly, that would require a re-hallowing/dedication.
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well not according to some reports.. Fellowes worked for the queen and was loyal to her and it is said that Jane Fellowes was in a cleft stick between her husband and her family/sister.
And in laws are often not that close to their families..
I don't say that there is "animosity" as such but I don't think relations are too close.
I don't believe the Spencers have all much to do with even Harry and William, nowadays,much less with the queen.
But I don't udnerstand the rededication of the grave. its consecrated, its hallowed ground. if they wanted to have a prayer service by the grave every years on say Di's birthday that's what some people would do.. but I have not heard of this happening.. so I'm not sure why it is happening now with a rededication service...
It's happening because her sons wanted it. It's something they wanted to do as their way to honor their mother. It doesn't need to be anymore than that and it certainly isn't worth others to question or criticize.
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Old 07-01-2017, 04:20 AM
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Saturday marks the 56th birthday of Britain's Princess Diana, whose shocking death in a car accident in Paris in 1997 shocked the world. Princess Diana, first wife of Prince Charles and mother of Prince William and Prince Harry, died on Aug. 31, 1997, in a traffic accident while traveling with a companion.

Here are the top 20 inspiring quotes from Princess Diana, collected from Wikiquote, the BBC and Brainy Quotes:

Princess Diana Quotes And Photos: 20 Inspirational Sayings To Share On Her 56th Birthday | International Business Times



Princess Diana: A look at the last birthday of the queen of hearts

http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty...last-birthday/
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Old 07-01-2017, 04:26 AM
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Perhaps they are moving her to another location on the island, with smart new reconstructed surroundings, gravestone etc. (You know what my beliefs are regarding her body's true location anyway, don't you, Denville?) Anyway, if she's been moved, even slightly, that would require a re-hallowing/dedication.
I certainly hope not. I don't believe it, I think that her body is where it was laid, as was thogtht right at the time. Unless there is a very good reason, I think it is wrong to disturb someone's resting place. I don't know why they are publicising this anyway, If they do want a clergyman to say prayers and for htem to have service at her graveside, that is a private matter and ther'es no need to tell the world about it. they could have had a service there every year at her birthday, if they wished.. I don't believe they have.. but it is something that could have happened on a regular basis without telling the world about it.
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Old 07-01-2017, 12:00 PM
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I hope this the correct place to put this link to another upcoming tv special in memory of Diana.

Princess Diana's Brother Charles Spencer to Tell Her Story in People's Special

In regards to comments about W&H and their closeness to the Spencer's. Last year, Harry did attend his cousin George's wedding. I recall Harry and George, as children, looking quite similar with their red hair and similar hair cut.
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Old 07-01-2017, 12:20 PM
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I'm slightly surprised we haven't seen any arrival pics from today's service. I supposed some photographers woudl go stand at the gates of Althorp.
I hope this is out of respect for the family, who will have an undoubtly emotional service ahead of them.
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Old 07-01-2017, 01:27 PM
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I wonder if they took a helicopter.
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I hope that the press would leave them alone.. but If they thnk it will get them some salelabe stories or pics I don't suppose they will...
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So far no pics have shown up...the family might get lucky on this one.


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Old 07-01-2017, 04:37 PM
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They might, just might have gone there earlier than anyone expected them to, had a morning service at Althorp House, gone to the island, had brunch and then departed. Perhaps photographers expected an afternoon arrival?

Anyway, I've been remembering Diana on what would have been her 56th birthday, and all the good, bright and wonderful things about her. I hope the pain of her loss was not too bad for her sons yesterday (Aus time.)
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