The Casiraghi's - University Life

[LadyEsquire]

I think someone said she was due to start back September 2.

[Danielane]

Originally Posted by LadyEsquire

I think someone said she was due to start back September 2.

If she is in khâgne, yes, she strated back on september 2. If she's at university (la Sorbonne, same as mine), she'll start back on october 3.

[Danielane]

Originally Posted by acid_rain3075

Has anyone actually heard or seen anything new about Charlotte? It seems that we haven't really gotten anything new about her since August. I mean, gosh, WHERE IS SHE?

She is studying. I don't know exactly where in Paris, but not very far from where I live.

[Daytona]

What does she study?

[Danielane]

Originally Posted by Daytona

What does she study?

We don't know exactly. Either she's in khâgne at lycée Fénelon (a khâgne is one of the preparatory classes, a french speciality) either at the university at the famous Sorbonne (where I'm studying too).

[Daytona]

Originally Posted by Danielane

We don't know exactly. Either she's in khâgne at lycée Fénelon (a khâgne is one of the preparatory classes, a french speciality) either at the university at the famous Sorbonne (where I'm studying too).

Sorbonne is one of my options as a postgraduate in law as a major.

[Mrs.Smith]

Originally Posted by Daytona

Sorbonne is one of my options as a postgraduate in law as a major.

Which sorbonne, I mean which number has that university as Sorbonne is Paris I and IV I think? is there a special course for foreign law students? (sorry, this is off-topic, but I planned a year at Paris II during my studies which is not possible now, and so I'm thinking about going there for an additional qualification.)

[CasiraghiTrio]

Originally Posted by Danielane

She is studying. I don't know exactly where in Paris, but not very far from where I live.

Then you live in St. Germain? This is where I believe Char lives because all of the places she's been photographed point there and it seems to be very fashionable, where a wealthy and chic woman might live.
:)

[Danielane]

Originally Posted by CasiraghiTrio

Then you live in St. Germain? This is where I believe Char lives because all of the places she's been photographed point there and it seems to be very fashionable, where a wealthy and chic woman might live.
:)

I live in a street which is a kind of border between Saint-Germain des Prés and the Quartier Latin (Latin Quarter). A very wealthy and lovely quarter... I live here in a student room. I never met Charlotte, by the way.

[acid_rain3075]

Is it possible that Charlotte lives in the same house that Caroline, Grace, and stephanie lived in when Caroline was studying at the Sorbonne in the 70s? I remember that Prince Rainier used to own that house where they lived and that stephanie used to live there off/on in the 80s or 90s(or something like that). I just don't know the area. But I remember there was a picture.

[CasiraghiTrio]

Originally Posted by acid_rain3075

Is it possible that Charlotte lives in the same house that Caroline, Grace, and stephanie lived in when Caroline was studying at the Sorbonne in the 70s? I remember that Prince Rainier used to own that house where they lived and that stephanie used to live there off/on in the 80s or 90s(or something like that). I just don't know the area. But I remember there was a picture.

It is certainly possible. This is something that many of us Casiraghi Watchers have wondered.
:)

[monica17]

Originally Posted by acid_rain3075

Is it possible that Charlotte lives in the same house that Caroline, Grace, and stephanie lived in when Caroline was studying at the Sorbonne in the 70s? I remember that Prince Rainier used to own that house where they lived and that stephanie used to live there off/on in the 80s or 90s(or something like that). I just don't know the area. But I remember there was a picture.

The family's apartment is in Avenue Foch. I don't know if they still own it - most likely. I think Caroline and family live elsewhere near Paris, Fountainbleu?

[CasiraghiTrio]

Originally Posted by monica17

The family's apartment is in Avenue Foch. I don't know if they still own it - most likely. I think Caroline and family live elsewhere near Paris, Fountainbleu?

Princess Caroline has a mansion in Fontainebleau, yes. This is where the Trio lived when they were going to the local school. But now Charlotte actually lives in the city of Paris, on her own somewhere, probably in the St. Germain district.

[michelle]

Originally Posted by CasiraghiTrio

Princess Caroline has a mansion in Fontainebleau, yes. This is where the Trio lived when they were going to the local school. But now Charlotte actually lives in the city of Paris, on her own somewhere, probably in the St. Germain district.

The fanily's 'hotel particulier' big appartment where Grace lived with her girls is in the Avenue Faoch, that's right, it's very close to the Arc de Triomphe. Caroline has a house in Fontainebleau , that's right too...
When Stephanie was older and she lived alone in Paris she had another
appartment and I can't remeber where that was. I'll look for it. It is possible that Charlotte uses this appartment of Stephanie, as both. this one and the one in the Avenue Foch. now belong to Stephanie.

[Mrs.Smith]

yes, I want to know that too, it is not only "Charlotte - interest", I want to see which possibilities are there in France, specially for foreign students. About courses that take a lot of time: my courses start tomorrow and we'll see if I'll come here that often. But unlike Charlotte I don't have to run a household(do you say it like that?) - still live with my parents:o

[CasiraghiTrio]

Originally Posted by Mrs.Smith

yes, I want to know that too, it is not only "Charlotte - interest", I want to see which possibilities are there in France, specially for foreign students. About courses that take a lot of time: my courses start tomorrow and we'll see if I'll come here that often. But unlike Charlotte I don't have to run a household(do you say it like that?) - still live with my parents:o

Well, it seems Point de Vue has confirmed what some of us have suspected, that Char is enrolled in Lycee Fenelon, in the two-year hypocagne (sp?) course, to prepare for the four-year Ecole Normale Superieure (sp? again). If you go into the Lycee Fenelon official site (don't remember, sorry, but I did put it up at my site, Casiraghitrio.com in both the Felix page and the page on "Charlotte 411") you can read about this two year course. I think the level of academia that Char is enrolled in seems to be very unlike the level of the average American undergraduate. It seems like her studies can be more accurately compared to a student in America preparing for dissertation or at least at graduate level. It's very serious and very concentrated. It's nothing like what her mother did at the Sorbonne. Caroline went to college just for the sake of going. Charlotte seems to have a very serious purpose. I love this girl more and more!!

[Mrs.Smith]

Thanks for the info! It really seems to be very hard. But I think going to such a famous, "elite" institution is also a great motivation. I've always been jealous because royals and rich kids can take the courses at university they want without caring for future possibilities in earing money.But Charlotte seems to have chosen the hardest way. I think you don't do that only to be sophisticated and because you have some interest in these subjects - you're probably right - she has a purpose.

[Grace]

I think you're underestimating Caro's course of study; for what I know (and I hope with all my heart I'm not offending anyone) the workload in European Unis tends to be heavier than the workload for undergraduate studies in the US. France in particular has very demanding University, and in France Philosophy (particularly at Sorbonne) is one of the most prestigious (again not the right word I fear) majors...
Of course ENA is more prestigious than Sorbonne, because only the elite go there, but a philosophy course in France can be just as hard. If you ever talk to a French student and tell him you study Philosophy (or Political Sciences like me and that's why I know it) he will be in awe of your superiour intelligence (while in Italy Political Sciences is considered the major for those who want to waste time...everything is relative!), just because such courses in his Country are considered the hardest.

Just another thing, after hypokhagne I think you can attend several Grands Ecoles, and take very different subjects, not only ENA (please correct me if I'm wrong)...

Kisses

[mia_lanes]

Originally Posted by Grace

I think you're underestimating Caro's course of study; for what I know (and I hope with all my heart I'm not offending anyone) the workload in European Unis tends to be heavier than the workload for undergraduate studies in the US. France in particular has very demanding University, and in France Philosophy (particularly at Sorbonne) is one of the most prestigious (again not the right word I fear) majors...
Of course ENA is more prestigious than Sorbonne, because only the elite go there, but a philosophy course in France can be just as hard. If you ever talk to a French student and tell him you study Philosophy (or Political Sciences like me and that's why I know it) he will be in owe of your superior intelligence (while in Italy Political Sciences is considered the major for those who want to waste time...everything is realtive!), just because such courses in his Country are considered the hardest.

Just another thing, after hypokhagne I think you can attend several Grands Ecoles, and take very different subjects, not only ENA (please correct me if I'm wrong)...

Kisses

Yes, you're right Grace. We have some American exchange students at our university somewhere in England who at undergraduate level, same as me. They were saying about how heavy the workload is and they were comparing our undergraduate level to their graduate.

I also want to say well done Char and you go girl!

[Danielane]

Originally Posted by Grace

I think you're underestimating Caro's course of study; for what I know (and I hope with all my heart I'm not offending anyone) the workload in European Unis tends to be heavier than the workload for undergraduate studies in the US. France in particular has very demanding University, and in France Philosophy (particularly at Sorbonne) is one of the most prestigious (again not the right word I fear) majors...
Of course ENA is more prestigious than Sorbonne, because only the elite go there, but a philosophy course in France can be just as hard. If you ever talk to a French student and tell him you study Philosophy (or Political Sciences like me and that's why I know it) he will be in owe of your superior intelligence (while in Italy Political Sciences is considered the major for those who want to waste time...everything is realtive!), just because such courses in his Country are considered the hardest.

Just another thing, after hypokhagne I think you can attend several Grands Ecoles, and take very different subjects, not only ENA (please correct me if I'm wrong)...

Kisses

As a French one I will correct a few things. I've done an hypokhâgne and after, two years of Khâgne, but I didn't attend a Grande école. To attend theses kind of university (ENS, ENA) you must pass a very difficult exam which each year only 75 people (in classics) have. It's not really an exam, in France we call thiis a concours but I don't know the word in english. There must be 1000 students in french khâgnes for classics but only 75 have the exam. There are different kind of khâgnes preparing to differents grandes écoles.
To enter in the ENA you must pass a very difficult concours. So it's not automatic to enter in grandes écoles if you want.
ENA is not an university but a school where students are prepared to work for high administration.
I hope I'm clear.