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Old 04-13-2015, 03:59 PM
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It may have to do with the fact that she is Catholic and, therefore, is against getting a divorce.
I've seen in this thread as well as other threads but this especially that the reason probably PC doesn't divorce may be because she's catholic. I am catholic, I live in a country where the majority the population is catholic. But here is the thing me as well the most of my country's population is catholic because of cultural heritage, we do not follow the Catholic Church on views such as contraceptives and divorce, actually we have very high rated for divorce, and most of the female population uses the pill. As a catholic I don't identify myself with most issues that the Catholic Church defends, but I do identify with the principal teachings of catholic or rather the christian faith of love, fraternity, charity and forgiveness.
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Old 04-13-2015, 04:35 PM
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I accept the point about being culturally Catholic but Caroline is more than that - she is a practising Catholic. She battled for years to get her first marriage annulled so clearly these things matter to her. I'm really not bothered, I have no particular faith but I also identify with those central teachings mentioned. I just find it a bit strange that she set so much store by the Church's approval in one area but not in others. It's almost like a pick and choose buffet...
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Old 04-13-2015, 06:08 PM
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Well I do know a couple who dated for 10 years and their marriage only lasted for 6 months, they are not practicing Catholics however they sought church annulment for the simple reason if either of them marries again they can have a church marriage.
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Old 04-13-2015, 10:51 PM
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It may have to do with the fact that she is Catholic and, therefore, is against getting a divorce.
I don't think that's it at all. She divorced/annulled Junot and they were both Catholic.

I think it's simply a case of being satisfied with the status quo. Neither Caroline or EA are interested in the hassle of pursuing a legal divorce.
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I read a lot. And when I say a lot I mean articles, books, newspapers. There was one book written by a former prostitute called "You'll Never Make Love In This Town Again" where she briefly mentions hooking up with Stefano(shortly before he got with Caroline). Stefano was in the mistaken belief that this high class call girl had a lot of money. When he found out she did not, he dumped he quickly.

At the time he got with Caroline he had a long term girlfriend. She was also unceremoniously dumped when he got with Caroline. To make it simple I get the idea that even though Stefano adored his princess, the money helped...a lot.

When he died he left Caroline up to her nose in debt. She had to sell some of her personal jewelry and got help from Prince Rainier as well.

Again, I think it was a happy marriage and that they did indeed love one another. I just don't see it as a fairy tale and I am also not convinced it would have lasted forever.
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Old 08-22-2015, 06:06 AM
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Do we have any verifiable references to Caroline and her family being left in debt and what, if any, jewelry was sold?
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Old 08-22-2015, 06:31 AM
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I remember very well these years. And I remember reading that Stefano left her a lot of money and also the Pacha, other properties and the construction company, now handled by Pierre. In the business world many thinks are bought under loan but it does not mean being poor.
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Old 08-22-2015, 06:35 AM
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In my memory based on italian media at that time, pacha yacht came on the scene after Stefano Casiraghi 's death, was purchased by princess Caroline and named with the initials of her kids
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Pacha was bought in 1989. Caroline and Stefano visited it together while it was being renovated.
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Old 08-22-2015, 07:52 AM
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Okay thank you! ; )
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Old 08-22-2015, 08:36 AM
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I also remember that after Stefano's death, because of his debts, Caroline was obliged to sell their chalet in St Moritz, their villa in Corsica, a high-speed yacht "Caline" and some personal collections of Stefano.
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Old 08-23-2015, 03:12 AM
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I also remember that after Stefano's death, because of his debts, Caroline was obliged to sell their chalet in St Moritz, their villa in Corsica, a high-speed yacht "Caline" and some personal collections of Stefano.
Selling something does not mean you are in need. Rich people do like this.
Athina Onassis sold her mother's home Avenue Fauche and rented the island of Scorpios.
But believe me she is not broken.
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Old 08-23-2015, 03:41 AM
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I also remember that after Stefano's death, because of his debts, Caroline was obliged to sell their chalet in St Moritz, their villa in Corsica, a high-speed yacht "Caline" and some personal collections of Stefano.
I doubt it had anything to do with debts. Stefano's children own the majority of the shares in their late father's construction company Engeco S.A.M. (see link) so when Stefano died, he was a wealthy man and left his widow and children in excellent financial circumstances. I don't believe Princess Caroline "was obliged" to sell properties. People do sell houses, maybe because they want to move on, maybe because they developed other preferences, maybe because the memories were too painful, whatever. But seeing that Stefano's children are now millionaires thanks to papa's company seems to contra-indicate any possible financial problem for the widow back then.
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Please don't shoot me for going off topic but being a romantic at heart, I want Princess Caroline to find stability and happiness.
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Old 08-23-2015, 04:55 AM
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Please don't shoot me for going off topic but being a romantic at heart, I want Princess Caroline to find stability and happiness.
I think Princess Caroline is very stable and happy now, settled as a doting grandma and remaining very much "The Princess" in Monaco and beyond. She spends lots of her days at the immense domain alongside the Aisne in Picardie, at the Château de Marchais. She also has a pied-à-terre in Fontainebleau near Paris, a farm in Saint-Rémy-de-Provence and -of course- her paradise-like Clos Saint-Pierre near Monaco, her regular residence at the Rivièra.

The Prince of Monaco talks about his domain and castle in Picardie. See link.
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I hear you but I meant relationship wise, I would like to see her stable and happy in a relationship.
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Old 08-23-2015, 05:13 AM
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I hear you but I meant relationship wise, I would like to see her stable and happy in a relationship.
She has had two formal relationships and is now in her third one, married with the Prince of Hannover. She is going to her sixties. Well, she has to divorce first to settle again for another relationship... I have the idea that both Prince Ernst August and Princess Caroline are happy with the situation. They remain the Prince and Princess of Hannover and both pursue an own life.
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Old 08-23-2015, 09:30 AM
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I have the feeling that the Caroline after a stormy love life enjoy the happiness of being with her children and her grandchildren. A relationship might not be looking for now.
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