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Old 06-05-2006, 02:37 AM
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AMADE - "Crimes against the Child" - Manila, October 2004 - Speech from HRH the Princess of Hanover


Opening Speech by HRH the Princess of Hanover
President of AMADE
“Crimes Against Children, Crimes Against Humanity”
An International Forum
27 October 2004
Quezon Ballroom, Shangri-La Hotel, Manila


Ladies and Gentlemen,
Dear Friends,


In these trouble times, where human life appears in many instances to be of no account, where the
slaughter of peoples can be justified by loftily expressed political and religious creeds, there remains one
constant – the universal recognition of all children as treasures to be loved, cared for, and nurtured.
Perhaps it is because children embody our dreams and aspirations of a better world for all and our
capacities to achieve them. Children inspire, for those reasons, mankind’s best intentions. It is easy to
understand why, as Albert Einstein expressed it, world progress is meaningless so long as there are
« unhappy children ».
We are certainly revolted when children are tortured, ill-treated, sold, or compelled be soldiers in war.
Atrocities, when done to children, are atrocities like no other. That is why the madness of the recent
Russian carnage in Beslan, North Ossetia is an abomination : because this assault specifically targeted
children.
My dear friends, there is a line that cannot – it should not – be crossed. The line which encircles children.
It is not enough that we try feed them, or heal wounded bodies. Beyond humanitarian relief, the world of
nations must stand as one in upholding the rights of our children and in attempting to devise and
implement the means of punishing those who dare commit atrocities on children. Such crimes constitute
an offense against the whole of humankind.
Terrorism has increasingly been committed against children on different levels. That is a reality openly
admitted and openly discussed. And yet there appears to be no corresponding resolutions to draft an
international protocol or convention to bind countries in outlawing, and punishing, such terror. There
been no protocol or convention dealing with appropriate penal sanctions on an international scale in
regard to flagrant violations of the Convention on the Rights of the Child. The Rome Statute of the
AMADE Document
International Criminal Court, clearly recognizes that « millions of children have been victims of
unimaginable atrocities that deeply shock the conscience of humanity ». However, even the Rome Statute
fails to provide for the criminalization of offenses committed against children on an international scale, or
those committed across international borders.
Most national penal codes have failed to keep pace with the growth of criminality that devastates and
victimizes our children. These crimes have now acquired a global complexion, aided by rapid
technological advancements that are increasingly being committed on a universal scale. The internet
facilitates commercial sexual exploitation, pornography, or the trafficking of children through the easy
identification of countries, sites, and children who may be exploited. The elements of the planning and
commission of these ghastly crimes as well as the network of perpetrators that make them possible cross
national and international borders. Territoriality, as a jurisdictional requirement for the prosecution of
criminal offenses under most domestic legislation, has mainly become a barrier in adequately addressing
the problem, not only in terms of defining the crimes committed against children, but in deterring and
punishing them.
In the end, crimes against children are realities that the world community has to squarely address, and that
international law has to combat, whenever and wherever these crimes are committed.
Certainly, there will be tremendous difficulties ahead in forging universal acceptance of the concept of
crimes against children as crime against humanity ; even more difficult is the structuring and
implementation of a process for bringing violators to justice. There is, even now, an inability to convince
the most powerful nations to concede even just on attempt to this. At the core of this reluctance is simple
distrust. It is argued, for example, that there are peoples, groups, and nations who would seize upon any
international covenant on an international court of justice as a means for political payback, an
unacceptable eventuality.
But we cannot allow the difficulties to faze us or to dampen our passion for arriving at acceptable and
workable solutions. There will be interminable discussions and compromises along the road. What should
never be compromising is the seriousness of intent and persistence in putting an end to the shocking
crimes that are committed, with impunity, against our children. What cannot be compromised is the effort
to carve out a special type of crimes under international law that will specifically respond to the needs of
our children, and a mechanism to appropriately deal with atrocities committed against them.
There may be no universally-accepted solution, or at least there does not yet appear to be one in sight.
Acceptance of any solution will, in itself, be a process of evolution. Acceptance will have to be won, little
by little – small movements of progress that will, it is hoped, eventually spell significant changes in
international law.
The continuing challenge is to try. What is at stake, after all, is the opportunity to make the world a better
place for our children, and all others, to live in. Let us not ignore, or squander, the opportunity.
This is AMADE’s job. As long as there are children who suffer or are in danger, AMADE will be there –
and fighting.


Thank you
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Old 10-22-2006, 12:54 PM
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Here is another interview (and some great pics, btw) she gave for the 40th birthday of AMADE:

http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools

Here is another interview from Hola from 2004:


INTERVIEW WITH CAROLINA OF MONACO: `MY CHILDREN DO NOT HAVE TITLE, SO THEY CAN TAKE HIS LIFE AS THEY CHOOSE'
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Old 10-22-2006, 04:05 PM
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She´´s so intelligent and cultivated,i love her. Thanks tbhrc for sharing.Is it possible to find a video?i mean one we haven´t seen yet.
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Old 10-22-2006, 08:37 PM
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Would you happen to have any video interveiws of her spekaing English? Because I've already seen many interveiws video of her speaking French.,coming fomr the video links for pricley family of Monaco.
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very nice interview!i didn't know that a prof told Charlotte that she doesn't need to study because of her family's wealth.what a stupid man!
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Interviews with Princess Caroline, articles

Here is part of a long interview in ELLE, 1981 or 1982, with the beginning of the translation.

Elle Interview.
May 1981 or 1982 ? (will have to check the year)

Caroline de Monaco with an Open Heart


In the longest and most frank interview she has ever granted, Caroline reveals everything which she has kept concealed for a long time and which she wished to reveal. She has seduced and moved Colombe Pringle who also had preconceived ideas about the princess.


Seing her. Seing her for real. Up close. Meeting her and hearing her talk about her childhood. Her loves. Her ambitions and her dreams. And finding out at last if she resembles her image of a beautiful princess without problems. To listen to her, to look at her and to ask her questions again and again, such was my plan. With irony in my bag ready to serve. And in my memory accumulated irritation because I had endured several months of cancelled appointments. At best the day before. At worst the same day, two hours before the interview was scheduled. Always through intermediates who spoke with an annoyed voice. With ready-made excuses of insidious flues (it happens), of congested airports (it’s more uncommon), or unexpected princely duties (here, it is more difficult to believe), which had begun to make me doubt the “politeness of kings” and were confirming for me that Highness and caprices hung together. And then, one day, a May surprise. Princess Caroline called. And in a lovely voice, warm and friendly, she said: “I am sorry, our story is the Arlesian. Come tomorrow to Monaco and we will be able to talk”. So the next day, airplane and then helicopter, – dizziness over the water, and finally taxi and the story begins.

Once upon a time on a rock, a pink house with green shutters and a view on the sea. Behind the walls not too thick, not too high, protected by a very big dog and a very small dog there lived a princess who was not blond as in fairytales but was famous for her beauty, her failed romances, her taste for pretty dresses and her passion for sea sports. At the door, an intercom, and already the same very cheerful voice. And right away a dog’s voice, a very little dog’s voice, “the big one I keep him locked up inside so that he will have time to get used to your presence.” Wearing ordinary black pants, a white shirt and bicolored flat shoes, she offers me coffee, brings the tray under the …. fig tree (is it a fig tree?) no matter, let’s call it that. She throws herself on a comfortable lounge chair and crosses a leg.

- What should I call you?

( Indeed, as protocol demands, it would better to call her “Princess”. As a matter of fact, that’s how Mario, her butler, “found thanks to the small ads in “Nice-Matin”, calls her. On envelopes you write Her Serene Highness, but under the fig tree … )

- “Caroline “ (Smile)




Why is it so difficult to meet with you and why do you refuse interviews?

But why should I accept interviews? I have not done anything! If I wanted to sell one of my records, a film in which I had played, or my ideas, I would accept questions and photos, it would be part of my job. But here … I haven’t done anything! So I don’t understand why people bother me ceaselessly! There are so many interesting people to meet! …

(…) (Lost page which I have to hunt for). Then the next page starts with:

speech therapist. Taking care of handicapped children Doing physical therapy. I spend a lot of time with handicapped children in fitness training, dance etc.

Is it to fulfill your duty as a princess?

It is because I have had two friends who following a car accident found themselves handicapped at an early age. And that’s how I got interested in this problem. By living with them. By wanting to help them. … I have founded a center modeled after S.O.S. Friendship called ‘Young People, I’m listening” for drug addicts, delinquents, runaways, unhappy adolescents. In order to help them. By telephone, by having somebody always there. We are a group of friends and we work in shifts, day and night.

In ten years from now, what would you have like to have accomplished?

One always wishes for some deserved glory (smile) or at least acknowledgement.

It is true that your glory was acquired from day one without any effort….

But that’s fraudulent! (laughter) I would like to write a very, very complicated and inaccessible book which a small group of initiates would view as a masterpiece. I say that laughing but it really would be enough for me. Some acknowledgement for an “ant’s life”, or something of that sort, obscure, which nobody is interested in but which would make some people say, “What she does she does very well”.

How can one lead the life of a free woman and a princess?


I am lucky not to be married to a prince! My father has a sister who has the same status as I do, at least I will when my brother takes over, and she manages to be independent.

How does your brother look at his future as a ruler?


Albert is wonderful. He is very philosophical about his fate and one day in school, in third grade, I believe, when the teacher asked the students “What do you want to do
later ?”, Albert answered : “I don’t have a choice.” When he was little, he said another wonderful thing. It was during our national festival. We were dressed up in costumes, I as a little Monegasque girl in red and white stripes, he as a palace guard. And he was delighted to be wearing a uniform! Like any four year old little boy! At the appointed time, we were taken to the balcony. And Albert, with a serious demeanor, saluted without smiling the palace guards who were parading down below. We all withdraw from the balcony but Albert, because the crowd was applauding, returned to salute again. Maman calls him back again and he still continues saluting. Fed up, Maman yells : “ Albert, come back to Mommie.” And he, without turning around, answered, “Palace guards do not have mommies.” That’s wonderful isn’t it ? And Mama was trying not to laugh.
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How is your relationship with your mother?


A real relationship but I think that maman suspects that I am a little crazy, a little eccentric. She looks at me and doesn’t know what to make of me. She calls me the “insulary”.

And your father?


We are very close for different reasons. With mother it is a bond between women. She understands me. She is instinctive, emotional. Papa is also very sensitive but we have a relationship as of boy to father. More cerebral. Papa likes peoplewho are active, who shake things up. Last year I was doing, for myself exclusively as you can imagine, research into the Carolingian Renaissance. My father thought it was quite a worthy enterprise and my mother was wondering why I was doing it. Even when I was a student in college my mother would say to me: “You won’t have any use for this. Why don’t you travel instead? Look around you and cultivate yourself.”
“Would like to have lunch, lets go to the kitchen.” A normal kitchen, comfortable, impeccable and brand new with everything you need plus a table with four chairs to dine in front of the television set. Mario is not there, “because I like to prepare everything by myself. Because I like to cook.”

How did you learn cooking?


With the chef. Maman always said to me “Who can read, can cook.” (in English)

Do you speak English with your mother?


Always. Maman has always spoken English with us. With Papa we speak in French. Among us siblings also. But as soon as Maman is there we all speak English. I am totally bilingual. It is said that is nearly impossible but I think I am. I dream in those two languages and even in German.

Do you also speak German?


Yes, and Italian. And Spanish, badly.
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http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5...lineEllep1.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5...viewEllep3.jpg
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A few scanned pages from the original.
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Thank you iloveroyals - what a lovely find. How ironic is it to read Caroline's response about being lucky not to be married to a prince I just wish she would allow someone to write an authorised biography- she certainly has an eventful life to tell.
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thank you so much for this thread. I've always wanted to find out more about Caroline's personality. All we do is looking at pics, but now it's really something. Thanks !
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I wish she should do a new interview...on television. Albert usually visits Larry King every few years...she should do the same. Or maybe Diane Sawyer...
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Continuation of the translation:

For a “ dumb princess” you accumulate diplomas and languages.

But nobody is interested in that. As soon as I have a book under my arm, photographers stop taking my picture, and if I want to lose them, all I have to do is enter a bookstore… (breaks into laughter)

But if you have a man under your arm….

They chase after me. Everybody is in favor of freedom for women but they write about me as if they were Victorian censors. “She is water skiing in a bikini” they say. So what? Or else, “She was topless on the deck of a boat”. So what ? I am out at sea, I am not bothering anybody but they come to spy at me. And they are the ones who bother me. In some African tribes, they refuse to let themselves be photographed, because they believe that the photograph captures the soul. I believe that that must be true.

And to live with the impossibility of having any privacy, that must be unbearable, no?

It is the most difficult thing about the fact of being a princess, and it leaves me with the feeling of utter helplessness, especially in Paris…. Here I don’t have any problems. People are sympathetic about my need for privacy. But in Paris! I leave my home wearing jeans to go to a dance class and photographers crawl alongside me in their cars. It’s horrible! That’s when one regrets being a princess. It’s frustrating too, because when I try to do things, not for glory, because I am interested in it and sincerely care about it, as for example, the handicapped, then they are all gone. They are no longer interested.!

Because there is no sex or scandal?


As if one couldn’t go through quiet periods without any romance! As if all romances should all follow each other. Oh la! la! It is so exasperating ! With the unending supply of fiancés that they pin on me, I wouldn’t be able to tell one from the other! Sometimes I wonder what I did to deserve all of this!

Your first fiancé was Prince Charles?


Yes I have only seen him once but they married us before during and after!
He came here for an event for the handicapped and the year of Childhood, and Albert and he and I had spent the day water-skiing, in the cold. It was Easter. At 5, we went home to change, we were soaked, my hair sticky with salt. The hairstylist was waiting for me to make me a chignon and put a ribbon matching my gown, a gown (makes a face)... Because I was not very interested in clothes, or only in what brand of jeans I wanted to buy, maman took care of me for all the big events... and she had chosen this gown (makes a face), like a stick of barley sugar, striped, pink-mauve, pale pink, white pink. I looked like a piece of candy in it with the matching ribbon in my hair (laughter) and my hair done, my make-up. They had put jewelry (gestures to show everywhere).

Where does all these jewels that you wear come from? Are they crown jewels?
Yes some are crown jewels and some are not. When I arrived in the hall in that get-up, Prince Charles said to me (in English) "My God, (reverts to French), whatever happened to you ? You look like a gift package!" I was so ashamed, so ashamed... (smiles) Shall we have coffee in the winter garden?

The lunch was delicious. Only crudités, pretty and fresh, prepared, peeled, and served by the princess who today is speaking without restraint.

Like all young girls, you must have had a first heart-throb?


Yes, I must have been sixteen, on the beach with the same small group of friends that I have had forever. It was typical! Absolutely classic!

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To orient you, I am about half-way done.
I try to keep the flavor of her rhythm and vocabulary, but it would have to be worked over for a professional-standard translation. Princess Caroline, back then, seemed to speak very fast, with familiar language (not really slang, just a few words), a great sense of humor and self-deprecation, much cheerfulness, and an exquisite, literary syntax. I imagine she looked over the interview on paper and may have changed a few things. But she certainly has a gift for language, which I am afraid I am not quite replicating here.
In later interviews, she doesn't sound the same, has lost that quality of spontaneity and joie de vivre and tends to lecture her audience a bit.
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To orient you, I am about half-way done.
I try to keep the flavor of her rhythm and vocabulary, but it would have to be worked over for a professional-standard translation. Princess Caroline, back then, seemed to speak very fast, with familiar language (not really slang, just a few words), a great sense of humor and self-deprecation, much cheerfulness, and an exquisite, literary syntax. I imagine she looked over the interview on paper and may have changed a few things. But she certainly has a gift for language, which I am afraid I am not quite replicating here.
In later interviews, she doesn't sound the same, has lost that quality of spontaneity and joie de vivre and tends to lecture her audience a bit.
Thanks SO much iloveroyals! Wonderful thread, wonderful reading!
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Thank you all for your encouragement. It gives me the necessary motivation to continue. (Tonight, I hope, although I should learn not to make promises I don't keep !)
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Depending on the length of the original article, we may already have enough of the translation. The copyright laws apply to translations as well as to original work, and we'll be breaking the law if we post straight translations of entire interviews.

The Royal Forums Member FAQs have a section on copyright, including the following:

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It's a copyright violation to post translations of entire articles. You can post a link to the article, along with a short English summary, in your own words, of the article. If you find a full translation online, you can post a link to it. If you have your own website or blog and wish to post the translation there, you can add a link to it here. However, your provider will probably also have copyright rules, and you may be infringing those rules by storing copyrighted material.
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How ironic is it to read Caroline's response about being lucky not to be married to a prince

It's said the only the stupid never change their minds, and surely Caroline is not! Although I do not like Ernst, but that's her choice, and none of my business.

Anyway, thank you so much, Iloveroyals! Do not worry about the translationyou have conveyed the idea perfectly!
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I am sorry I didn't reread that FAQ question/answer. Please delete the translation if it is an infringement of copyright rules. I thought it wouldn't be a problem because the RF had a link to the interview following the trip to Africa, and I was able to translate the whole article without any problem. But now I realize it was a much shorter interview.
Is it all right if I give a summary of the rest of the interview ?
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I like her so much after reading this interview...
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