International Jumping de Monte-Carlo: 2007, 2008, 2009...

[bbb]

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more photos on page 6 and scroll up and see why charlotte isn't there. she's on the pasha with alex and bro w/friends.

athina and dodi are there
(read my rant (post) about the tag lines on their thread in celebrity chit chat)
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...athina+onassis

[scooter]

Originally Posted by Horseygal

I wonder if she has time anymore, now that she's in college. I would think that if being an equestrian is what she chose to do as a profession, then I'm sure she'd be competing regularly - otherwise, she probably rides for pleasure, or competes on a lower level, just to keep her skills strong (like her Mother - did she ever actually compete, formally)? It would be great, if she did, but I cannot imagine she has time - she'd probably be quickly overshadowed by professional riders (maybe Valentine, Christine Maillot, etc).

A lot of us who are show jumpers take the college years off and then return to showing after. She's an excellent rider,so I doubt she'll give it up. She can certainly afford good horses!

[CasiraghiTrio]

Haha, thanks for the links. I saw Athina and Doda there, Doda competed, Athina was just watching. I think about Charlotte, she has not competed since 2004. I think she just attended last year because it was the big inauguration of the new location and the comeback for the event.

Either Prince Albert or Princess Caroline must be engaged at least Saturday, maybe both of them (that would be nice!) for the prize giving. I doubt Steph will go because she never goes to this event and she doesn't have any connection to it. Prince Albert is "High Patron" and Princess Caroline is President.
My bet's on that Prince Albert will show up Saturday for the Grand Prize event and giving, and I hope that Princess Caroline joins him.

[hibou]

Originally Posted by scooter

A lot of us who are show jumpers take the college years off and then return to showing after. She's an excellent rider,so I doubt she'll give it up. She can certainly afford good horses!

Actually I competed through my sophomore year in college. If you time manage well it can be done under certain circumstances. Also in the US there is the Intercollegiate Horse Show circuit which if you have limited time to ride outside of school can keep you in the saddle. I did that as well - it also looks good on the job resume. Charlotte is lucky to be able to afford a groom and a trainer to keep her horses going when she can't get there, so it possible that she is riding but not enough to compete. I have known riders in the US who can afford it, to do just that. They ride when their schedule allows during the school year and then they are ready for the summer show circuit. It's possible she has moved on from the sport.

I know Caroline still like to ride but doesn't compete. Hopefully she will be there to hand out the trophies.

[CasiraghiTrio]

Originally Posted by scooter

A lot of us who are show jumpers take the college years off and then return to showing after. She's an excellent rider,so I doubt she'll give it up. She can certainly afford good horses!

I wish you were right, scooter, but I think she gave it up (as a participant) long ago.
I do think she will continue to follow others in the equestrian sports and she loves horses. I have a fantasy that she becomes her mother's deputy president or something for the event, based on nothing, just me and my pipe dreams.

Well, I'm not a show jumping rider. I've never done it so maybe our experienced jumpers can correct me if necessary. But I have been under the impression that Charlotte was never good enough reallly to go beyond like 1m35, 1m40. You can't compete in the new CSI Monaco unless you are a 1m45 jumper (except the invites and the kids). Charlotte rode in the CSI Monaco at Fontvieille up through 2003 because she was an invited rider and representative of the Monaco Equestrian Federation. She could not compete in the 'real' prize events. I have long thought that Charlotte is quite good at amateur level but not quite to be a real World-class rider. Am I wrong?

[tbhrc]

Charlotte is there. First pics from Getty:

http://i14.tinypic.com/5x3gh36.jpg
http://i19.tinypic.com/62fbrzl.jpg
http://i10.tinypic.com/4znu24y.jpg

[monaco70s]

Thanks for the pics thbrc! She looks great For those interested, she's wearing new Ray Ban wayfarers.

[tbhrc]

You're welcome Monaco, great to have you 'back'

A few more pics from Getty:

http://i7.tinypic.com/4m7jd4m.jpg
http://i11.tinypic.com/6bvg7xd.jpg
http://i11.tinypic.com/67gv8lw.jpg
http://i14.tinypic.com/61mecl0.jpg
http://i12.tinypic.com/67n5x1l.jpg

The gallery from getty can be found right here, right now they're adding new pics every minute:

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[CasiraghiTrio]

Originally Posted by monaco70s

Thanks for the pics thbrc! She looks great For those interested, she's wearing new Ray Ban wayfarers.

And she's sitting next to Thierry! She kind of ignored him last year, though he was there, she was so busy laughing like a hyena with Jules and Felix! Well, Philippe Rozier and Doda are competing but not Athina, although obviously she is there. Athina has been just a spectator at the last of Doda's competitions too. I hope she's not injured but just taking a rest.
Thanks for the pics.
P.S. Is it just me or has Juliette totally had a Diva-makeover? She looks hot. She was so pretty always, but she's so grown up and diva-like now.

[hibou]

Originally Posted by CasiraghiTrio

Well, I'm not a show jumping rider. I've never done it so maybe our experienced jumpers can correct me if necessary. But I have been under the impression that Charlotte was never good enough reallly to go beyond like 1m35, 1m40. You can't compete in the new CSI Monaco unless you are a 1m45 jumper (except the invites and the kids). Charlotte rode in the CSI Monaco at Fontvieille up through 2003 because she was an invited rider and representative of the Monaco Equestrian Federation. She could not compete in the 'real' prize events. I have long thought that Charlotte is quite good at amateur level but not quite to be a real World-class rider. Am I wrong?

That's a pretty accurate accounting. She is not an Olympic level rider like Athina. Non the less she is a very nice rider and if she were living in the US and riding the Amateur owner div. I would imagine she would do well.

[CasiraghiTrio]

Originally Posted by Daytona

In my understanding the lady next to Charlotte seen in most of the pictures is named Juliette.Who is she,Charlottes friend?Never seen her before.

Juliette Maillot, I just called her Jules for silliness. She is Char's best friend (well, it's actually my personal opinion, as I'm sure others here who've been a 'fan' as long or longer than I have been will have their own observations). But in my honest to goodness strongest opinion, Juliette has always been her best friend. ;-) She looks very different in these pics, however, obviously has had a makeover of some kind, very glam and cool. She was always cute, but now she is just a knockout, don't you think so? Almost but not quite as hot as dear Charley herself, although obviously no one takes the Throne of Beauty from Charley.... hehe.
Well, here are some links, the reason I came back for a few minutes! About the jumping.... from Hello!'s website.
Athina's young family in the spotlight at Monaco horse show *talks about Athina, Doda, Viviane yesterday mostly

Hibou, I agree that Charlotte is a great horse rider and amateur jumper. I didn't mean to diss her skills! hehe
I just meant she only ever did it with modest intentions. I'm sure if she had put her entire focus on it like Athina did/does, like Doda did/does, Charlotte would have been an Olympics-hopeful now. I think I did make some slightly inaccurate statements in my prior post, however, out of carelessness to detail. I meant that Charlotte was junior-class rider, not amateur.
Hibou, or scooter, I think you guys would know the answer to this question: Isn't all of these riders "amateur" since they are not paid, but they actually pay to compete and they compete for money prizes rather than steady payment or endorsements? So that is what "amateur" is, right? Non-professional riders, period, regardless of level?

[scooter]

Originally Posted by hibou

That's a pretty accurate accounting. She is not an Olympic level rider like Athina. Non the less she is a very nice rider and if she were living in the US and riding the Amateur owner div. I would imagine she would do well.

I've never been to the M-C show, but many of the big european shows (Ireland, Holland, Germany) I have been to have a 'ladies' or amateur division which is usually a 1.10 or 1.20 meter, similar to the Adult or low amateur jumpers here.

[hibou]

Originally Posted by CasiraghiTrio

Juliette Maillot, I just called her Jules for silliness. She is Char's best friend (well, it's actually my personal opinion, as I'm sure others here who've been a 'fan' as long or longer than I have been will have their own observations). But in my honest to goodness strongest opinion, Juliette has always been her best friend. ;-) She looks very different in these pics, however, obviously has had a makeover of some kind, very glam and cool. She was always cute, but now she is just a knockout, don't you think so? Almost but not quite as hot as dear Charley herself, although obviously no one takes the Throne of Beauty from Charley.... hehe.
Well, here are some links, the reason I came back for a few minutes! About the jumping.... from Hello!'s website.
Athina's young family in the spotlight at Monaco horse show *talks about Athina, Doda, Viviane yesterday mostly

Hibou, I agree that Charlotte is a great horse rider and amateur jumper. I didn't mean to diss her skills! hehe
I just meant she only ever did it with modest intentions. I'm sure if she had put her entire focus on it like Athina did/does, like Doda did/does, Charlotte would have been an Olympics-hopeful now. I think I did make some slightly inaccurate statements in my prior post, however, out of carelessness to detail. I meant that Charlotte was junior-class rider, not amateur.
Hibou, or scooter, I think you guys would know the answer to this question: Isn't all of these riders "amateur" since they are not paid, but they actually pay to compete and they compete for money prizes rather than steady payment or endorsements? So that is what "amateur" is, right? Non-professional riders, period, regardless of level?

Not to worry things can get quite confusing. Basically according to the rules of the US Equine Federation (formerly the Am. Horse Show Assoc) an amateur rider may not accept payment for such things as showing someone else's horse, training or teaching, or being paid in another capacity like secretary or bookkeeper. They may not accept money for photos or endorsements either. Prize money won does not count. Summer camp councilors are exempt and one may accept payment for books and articles written, one may also accept a token of appreciation not to exceed $300. Generally speaking, it has more to do with whether you do it for a living or not. However, also generally speaking, and I will defer to Scooter on the European shows, in the US the fences for amateur jumpers tend to be lower in height and less demanding than the Grand Prix courses which go by Olympic standards. As Scooter pointed out they do have lower levels in Europe as well. It looks like some of the classes at the Monte Carlo show have different levels too. As I said in an earlier post it looks like some of the Olympic level riders are training some of their new horses but we'll have to see who they ride in the Grand Prix classes.

I should add that one may be an amateur and compete at the Grand Prix level like Zara Phillips (Princess Anne's daughter) [although she is an Eventing rider] if one's skills are up to the task.

[CasiraghiTrio]

Originally Posted by hibou

Not to worry things can get quite confusing. Basically according to the rules of the US Equine Federation (formerly the Am. Horse Show Assoc) an amateur rider may not accept payment for such things as showing someone else's horse, training or teaching, or being paid in another capacity like secretary or bookkeeper. They may not accept money for photos or endorsements either. Prize money won does not count. Summer camp councilors are exempt and one may accept payment for books and articles written, one may also accept a token of appreciation not to exceed $300. Generally speaking, it has more to do with whether you do it for a living or not. However, also generally speaking, and I will defer to Scooter on the European shows, in the US the fences for amateur jumpers tend to be lower in height and less demanding than the Grand Prix courses which go by Olympic standards. As Scooter pointed out they do have lower levels in Europe as well. It looks like some of the classes at the Monte Carlo show have different levels too. As I said in an earlier post it looks like some of the Olympic level riders are training some of their new horses but we'll have to see who they ride in the Grand Prix classes.

I should add that one may be an amateur and compete at the Grand Prix level like Zara Phillips (Princess Anne's daughter) [although she is an Eventing rider] if one's skills are up to the task.

In Brazil, Doda and Rodrigo Pessoa have endorsements but I think they compete for teams that are sponsored by their endorsers, so it turns out legal and fine, technically. And Team Marionnaud, the team sponsored by Chez Marionnaud perfume company that Charlotte rode for, Valentine also, and the Roziers still do. And before that Charlotte was on the Fortis-sponsored team. Very interesting topic. Yes, so Charlotte competed in juniors, then CSIC, which I forget what the the last 'C' stands for, sometimes she competed in cSIA, I guess that is for "amateur"?
Then CSI-O is something, I forgot.
The highest is CSI-W (world class) isn't it? That's where Pessoa and Miranda belong. Athina was going strong in CSIW all last year and starting off this year too, but now she is out of the game, I guess temporarily, hoping it's not due to an injury!

Well, now, got to get back on topic, don't we?

The official pictures, from the CSI Monte Carlo website.
http://www.monacohorseshow.com/index...onaco_2007.jsp

There not any pictures there yet but the website says on another of their pages, "coming soon". So I am hoping like tomorrow, Sat or Sun, but since Mon. would be the next business day, maybe not til then. Let's hope there is some flexibility are regular work hours at CSI M.C. webmaster control center.

From the Results for today, Friday, 29 June 2007
http://events.horses.nl/2007/monaco/results/results.htm
FEM Prize - Federation Equestrian Monaco, started at 1445
These were national invited riders, junior-level riders (this is how CC used to compete in this event). The winner of the FEM prize money was Monaco's Lavinia Leoni.
Prize CSI Monte Carlo, started at 16:00, 4pm Monaco time, a 1m25 concourse
France's Patrice Planchat took the purse.
1m35, same prize sponsor as previous, started at 1800, 6pm
Patrice Planchat had a good day! She(?) won again! If Patrice is female name, which I think it is, we have some Girl Power that went on today! Woohoo!
KBL Monaco Prize, 1m45, started at 1945, a quarter to eight pm, the first for the day of the major prize events, that is the world-class riders
Gregory Wathelet from Ukraine took the purse.
Prize Mediterranean Network, Group MTN, started at 2200, 10pm
This event was the most difficult of the day. The big potato in the stack, so to speak. Here you can see the concourse blueprint.
Michael Whitaker from great Britain took the purse.
He is a very famous rider.
Tomorrow, Saturday, 30 June 2007, the last day and the big prize events, so don't be square and miss it! Prince Albert will be there, maybe Princess Caroline too (let's hope so!) And of course, diehard fan of CC that I am, may Charlotte Casiraghi grace us with her worshipful, awe-inspiring, amazing, heavenly presence!

[rosana]

Thanks for the pics everyone, i hope we´ll see Caroline too.

[tbhrc]

Here is another set with pics from yesterday:

Isifa

[CasiraghiTrio]

The event (and Charlotte) finally made the Yahoo! News/Reuters....
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070629/i...1703984526.jpg
(the pics are all from yesterday)

[Daytona]

Who is the girl next to Charlotte?

[Beatrice]

^You mean at the photos from the link tbhrc provided?She's Juliette Maillot

[Daytona]

CasiraghiTrio and Beatrice thank you so much.CasiraghiTrio,yes i think she is a knock out
Sorry for my double post,i hadnt seen casiraghiTrios reply to my question.