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08-01-2007, 11:43 AM
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I dunno, but he had some problems with his older brother ( don't remeber the name, sorry) so I guess their relationship isn't great, either.
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08-01-2007, 12:15 PM
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I dunno, but he had some problems with his older brother ( don't remeber the name, sorry) so I guess their relationship isn't great, either.
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Prince Heinrich I think? I don't hold the Hanovers' names too well in my head.
But I believe this Prince Heinrich is the one that disagreed with Prince Ernst's decision to sell Marienburg treasures. I guess he was also something of a German tabloid caricature because he had a child from an adulterous affair with a cabaret singer, and he denied it but she took him to court and made him accept their son.
Prince Heinrich, pic and brief bio, on Dr.dk
There are five siblings of Prince Ernst:
1) Princess Marie, Countess of Hochberg
2) Prince Ludwig, the one who committed suicdie
3) Princess Olga
4) Princess Alexandra of Leiningen (I think she is little Alex's godmother in addition to Charlotte of course, and quite close to Ernst and Caroline)
5) Prince Heinrich
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08-01-2007, 12:24 PM
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Yeah, Heinrich might be Stephanie of the Hanover family  Wild and careless ...
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08-01-2007, 04:27 PM
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I know this is digressing a bit, but who said driving on the left hand side of the road is the wrong side??
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10-30-2007, 10:49 AM
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I know this lady (in the middle) is no longer in her youth, but I do not know where to post this pic.
Her name is Rita Caltagirone. She and her sister used to be good friends of Caroline, who met Stefano on their father's yacht. This man is a publisher and a businessman, who has been hinted for being involved in the mafia. Perhaps this might have generated all those bad rumors concerning Stefano and his family.
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11-23-2007, 01:15 PM
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Don't you all think that caroline was more " modern" and approachable when she was married to Stefano? I think she has such an air of superiority since he married Ernst August. She really oozes with " her Royal Higness air", what do you think about ?
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11-23-2007, 02:48 PM
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i think you're quite right vera... it's such a pitty!
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11-23-2007, 03:04 PM
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Don't you all think that caroline was more " modern" and approachable when she was married to Stefano? I think she has such an air of superiority since he married Ernst August. She really oozes with " her Royal Higness air", what do you think about ?
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I do not agree. Caroline was young happy and fresh when he was married to Stefano. But she had such an enormeous tragedy that it is normal that her caracher has changed somehow
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11-23-2007, 03:15 PM
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I am not talkin about carachter here.it's just her " superiority air" that i dislike........ It's like if since she married Ernst she became so snob, I think when she was Mrs Casiraghi she was more down to earth. I dont know if I cleared that..but it doesnt have to do with carachter, more with attitude.
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11-23-2007, 04:20 PM
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I agree with Fandesacs: Caroline was much more open and ready to let the press and the public into her life when Stefano was alive; after his death (and before she started a relationship with Ernst) she developed an insufferance to being constantly in the spotlight, almost a resentment toward the public who was scrutinizing her in such a difficult time. Since Stefano's death she has definitely changed her attitude, but that happened well before she got married to a Royal Highness...
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11-23-2007, 04:52 PM
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She has a lot of dignity and distance, a true regal person! Being one of few royals who have married another royal person in recent years, she really has the right to be!
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11-23-2007, 06:40 PM
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Well, Caroline has also matured, and realizes that the press doesn't always print the truth - they print pictures and stories that sell, no matter how deceiving they appear  . So, it makes sense that she's a little more guarded with her personal life, and that of her children - which is why she may have moved them out of the lime light and didn't give them titles, to give them a normal childhood. I think it was the right thing to do - even though they are not titled, they were still (and continue to be) followed and photographed.
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11-24-2007, 09:25 AM
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I am not talkin about carachter here.it's just her " superiority air" that i dislike........ It's like if since she married Ernst she became so snob, I think when she was Mrs Casiraghi she was more down to earth. I dont know if I cleared that..but it doesnt have to do with carachter, more with attitude.
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I agree with you, she has a snob attitude now, though she probably changed her character after Stefano's death, too. I can't tell from the pics what is her character but I can easily see her snobbish attitude and I am quite sure it is because of her royal marriage.
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11-27-2007, 03:07 PM
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who is the first child of princes Caroline? And would that be the person to become the prince(s) of monaco after Albert?
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11-27-2007, 05:15 PM
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I agree with you, she has a snob attitude now, though she probably changed her character after Stefano's death, too. I can't tell from the pics what is her character but I can easily see her snobbish attitude and I am quite sure it is because of her royal marriage.
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I would say more guarded than snobbish. We're so idealistic when we're young. Possibly, when she was newly married to Stephano (the love of her life), she was willing to let people in, not believing anyone (including the press) was out to hurt her, so maybe she acted w/out care - then, when Stephano died, and the hurtful things were printed about her, her marriages and family, she probably wised up and distanced herself from the press, and people outside her social circle - who could she trust?! So, I'd prefer to think she's just guarding herself from the general public, if she has the gut feeling that nothing positive will come from conversing w/a stranger.
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11-27-2007, 11:06 PM
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who is the first child of princes Caroline? And would that be the person to become the prince(s) of monaco after Albert?
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Andrea Casiraghi is Caroline's first son. He would only inherit the throne if Albert does not produce a legitimate heir and if Caroline abdicates or dies.
(current) Albert
1. Albert's Heir or Caroline
2. Andrea
3. Pierre (Andrea's younger brother)
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11-28-2007, 11:10 AM
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Hey i got a question and i'm not quite sure if it fits into this forum, but i'll just try^^.
Does anyone know what language Alexandra, her youngest daughter speaks?
I mean, if she speaks German with her parents, doesn't she also need to speak French, in order to understand her mom's other kids?!
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11-28-2007, 11:23 AM
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Hey i got a question and i'm not quite sure if it fits into this forum, but i'll just try^^.
Does anyone know what language Alexandra, her youngest daughter speaks?
I mean, if she speaks German with her parents, doesn't she also need to speak French, in order to understand her mom's other kids?!
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I think she speaks german, french and english. Because Charlotte, Andrea and Pierre speak English, French and Italian. It would make sense . . . She speaks french with her mother, the Casiraghi's and her french friends. The casiraghi's speak Englich with Ernst-August and his sons. I can imagine that Caro and Ernst speak a lot of English together. And I also think (not know!) that Alexandra speaks German with her father. But it is an interesting question isn't it? I also wonder if Alexandra speaks some italian . . . it would be co0nfusing, 4 languages . . .
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11-28-2007, 05:11 PM
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I am absolutely sure that the Princess Caroline speaks perfectly in german and english with her husband. She learned 5 languages: French, English, German, Italian, and fluently Spanish. That's why Caroline never has problem of communication with her husband. If her husband prefers english speech because he lived several years in London with his ex-wife Chantal. That is why her husband continues to speak in english with Caroline but certainly in german, especially with her little cute daughter Alexandra, in all mixing quite simply. I find really very enriching and very easy for the communication. Like the Princess Caroline, me also, to be honest, I usually speak 5 languages!
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11-28-2007, 05:17 PM
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Concerning the little princess Alexandra, the education in school nearby Paris is giving in french but she have a baby sister originally from Germany, so her baby sister speaks surely in german with Alexandra. That's the best point for her and "an asset" for her father
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