Engagement of Andrea Casiraghi and Tatiana Santo Domingo; 2 July 2012

[principessa]

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Princess Caroline of Monaco confirms her son's engagement to Tatiana Santo Domingo - hellomagazine.com

[RADKER18]

Wow finally ! It's been what 8 years or more about time ya know congrats to the happy couple .

[iceflower]

Originally Posted by biboquinhas

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-j3hVz3-bFH...ndrea-love.jpg
Is this the official picture?? Come on..I know they are kind of "alternative", they don't go by the rules... but sometimes we need to be a more serious...look at Andrea clothes...they are both looking in other way...I'am talking about having a more serious approach to life and don't think that all is party time...

No, this is not the official picture! It's an old one, taken some years ago!

So far no engagement pic has been released, only Princess Caroline's statement.

[maria-olivia]

Strange Engagement unconfirmed and then confirmed and no pictures !

[trepstrep]

Originally Posted by NGalitzine

Well her public identity for the last 7 years has been as Andrea's grilfriend so

We got to know her because she was Andrea's girlfriend, but that's not her identity, for god's sake. She is a person on her own, with her own family and name.

I can see no good reason why she would not finally become Tatiana Casiraghi.

Well, what about he fact that she is not a Casiraghi but a Santo Domingo?

Why not go from using her fathers surname to using her husbands

Because her father's name is HER name. She was born with it. She is a Santo Domingo.
Why does not Andrea change his name into Andrea Santo Domingo? Why not go from using his father's surname to using his wife's?

[burnt]

Are you all going to have a feminist debate instead of celebrating the engagement of Andrea Casiraghi?

[Artemisia]

Now that it's been confirmed, congratulations to the couple.
Is there going to be an engagement interview and/or photoshoot?

[Pranter]

No kidding.


LaRae

[agogo]

Originally Posted by maria-olivia

Strange Engagement unconfirmed and then confirmed and no pictures !

Andrea is private. So isTatiana.

[iloveroyals]

Originally Posted by trepstrep

We got to know her because she was Andrea's girlfriend, but that's not her identity, for god's sake. She is a person on her own, with her own family and name.
Well, what about he fact that she is not a Casiraghi but a Santo Domingo?

Because her father's name is HER name. She was born with it. She is a Santo Domingo.
Why does not Andrea change his name into Andrea Santo Domingo? Why not go from using his father's surname to using his wife's?

Her father's name is HER name because her mother took on her husband's name, apparently not finding a big identity problem with it. When married mothers find it to be an issue, the children carry both names, but in the end, it always go back to patriarchic ancestry.

[Al_bina]

Andrea Casiraghi and Tatiana Santo Domingo are engaged |Tatler.ru

[agogo]

Originally Posted by iloveroyals

Her father's name is HER name because her mother took on her husband's name, apparently not finding a big identity problem with it. When married mothers find it to be an issue, the children carry both names, but in the end, it always go back to patriarchic ancestry.

I don't really care what she takes as her last name. I want to know what her wedding dress is going to look like.

[goody7058]

Probability every designer would be itching to do her wedding dress.

[trepstrep]

Originally Posted by iloveroyals

Her father's name is HER name because her mother took on her husband's name, apparently not finding a big identity problem with it.

Well, 100 hundred years ago, women didn't have a right to vote and most of them they didn't find it a big issue. We probably should have kept things that way...
Asuming that Tatiana should take her husband's name simply because he is a male is sexist and humiliting no mather how you look at it.

When married mothers find it to be an issue, the children carry both names, but in the end, it always go back to patriarchic ancestry.

Maybe you keep that law in your country.

In mine, women NEVER take their husbands name (by law, it's not even an option, you don't become a different person just because you got married) and children always carry both names, but the parents can choose whether they carry first the father's or the mother's surname and that's he one that will be passed to their grand-children. So no, the patriarchic ancestry does not always prevail.

As you see, different places different laws. And we don't know how Monaco works.

Originally Posted by agogo

I don't really care what she takes as her last name. I want to know what her wedding dress is going to look like.

I can see her with a hippy style white thing and flat sandals...

[fandesacs2003]

Any date for the wedding???

I see very well Tatiana, with a hippy style long dress, hair down full of flowers, flat sandals (even barefoot).
If Andrea was NOT who he is, I would see him wed in a nice beach!!

[An Ard Ri]

Congratulations to the happy couple!

[iloveroyals]

Originally Posted by trepstrep

Well, 100 hundred years ago, women didn't have a right to vote and most of them they didn't find it a big issue. We probably should have kept things that way...
Asuming that Tatiana should take her husband's name simply because he is a male is sexist and humiliting no mather how you look at it.

Maybe you keep that law in your country.

In mine, women NEVER take their husbands name (by law, it's not even an option, you don't become a different person just because you got married) and children always carry both names, but the parents can choose whether they carry first the father's or the mother's surname and that's he one that will be passed to their grand-children. So no, the patriarchic ancestry does not always prevail.

As you see, different places different laws. And we don't know how Monaco

works.

Trepstep, no need to get your knickers in a twist. Explain this to me: so in your country, originally, there is a name that is uniquely from the female line, never having been contaminated with a male surname?

[fandesacs2003]

Spain is a RARE example (maybe the only one in Europe) where women do not change name when they marry and kids take both their parents names. The Prince of Asturias is called Felipe di Borbon y Grecia but the little infantas is oficially called "Leonor di Borbon y Ortiz" but I doubt that they still carry the Rocasolano, not the Grecia name. Consequently it is one moment in life when you abandon one branch's name, otherwise imagine every generation you carry 2 names more.... unbearable...
In Greece, women NEVER change their names, and theoretically, the parents have the right in theory to choose for their kids the surnname of the father or the mother (NOT both) but in reality, very very very few choose mother's name!!! So this is an obvious difference between LAW and MENTALITIES.
As regards Andrea-Tatiana, out of the Monaco law, which citizenship has Tatiana? Colombian or French?? we have to see the law also in HER country.

[Biri]

Originally Posted by fandesacs2003

Spain is a RARE example (maybe the only one in Europe) where women do not change name when they marry

In Spanish speaking countries the married women join their maiden's surname with that of their husbands: President of Argentina is called Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner.

First Lady of Peru is called: Nadine Heredia de Humala (nee Nadine Heredia y Alarcon). And her predecessors were: Pilar Nores de Garcia and Eliane Karp de Toledo.
Wife of the Chilean dictator: Lucia Hiriart de Pinochet.
First Lady of Colombia: Maria Lucia Rodriguez de Santos (her predecessors: Lina Moreno de Uribe, Nohra Puyana de Pastrana)
First Lady of Guatemala: Rosa Leal de Perez
First Lady of Honduras: Xiomara Castro de Zelaya (one of her predecessors: Nora Gunera de Melgar.
First Ladies of Nicaragua: Lila Abaunza de Bolanos, Salvadora Debayle de Somoza Garcia, Isabel Urcuyo de Somoza Debayle. (Female president: Violeta Barrios de Chamorro)

[RubyPrincess168]

Congrats to the happy couple. Now let's see the ring! Where's the ring?

I don't have high hopes for Tatiana's bridal look, given her usual style.