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Old 01-13-2012, 11:11 AM
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CSI Basel 2012 Horse Show Jumping Tournament
BASEL, SWITZERLAND - JANUARY 13: Charlotte Casiraghi looks on after competing in the Voegtli Festhallenvermietung AG Prize, Amateur tour 1,20 m Table A against the clock two phase-jump, as part of the the CSI Basel 2012 horse show jumping tournament on January 13, 2012 in Basel, Switzerland.
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If the vet check was all day Wednesday she could have been in Paris Tuesday nite and Wednesday morning. The horses and her coach would have been travelling on Tuesday and she could easily get to Basel in the afternoon in time for the vet check.
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Old 01-13-2012, 11:22 AM
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it's a shame we dont have photos from the VET. Check

this is my favorite:
Charlotte Casiraghi Competes In Voegtli

This horse, (Tintero) is so beautifull, so magestic, its most better that Brandy Pitos !!!

CHAR. is with a magnificent champion,

Charlotte Casiraghi Attends The CSI Basel 2012 Horse Show

Way not learn , some things to improve the performance !!! With Mrs. Tops !!!



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If the vet check was all day Wednesday she could have been in Paris Tuesday nite and Wednesday morning. The horses and her coach would have been travelling on Tuesday and she could easily get to Basel in the afternoon in time for the vet check.
OK, lets not wasting our time on that, she hapy ... is what counts.
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Old 01-13-2012, 11:52 AM
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do not say CHAR. is very bad rider ... because she is still learning, showjumping is very dificult, and dressage is worse than that.

of course, I agree, she is not a talented rider.

no one is ... just a few are lucky like Pessoa family for exempl.
Riders that are "still learning" stay home and work hard with their coaches and attend schooling shows to gain experience. They don't follow the Global Champions Tour all over the world and give interviews insinuating they hope to ride in the Olympics. She should be staying close to her home stable and riding several hours a day if she wants to be a rider. And if she doesn't, she should stop the ridiculous promoting of her "career".
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It looks like Edwina taped her on her phone and is helping her. That would be great. Ideally, HRH you are correct, but Charlotte is also promoting the sport so she needs to be seen at these events because she generates publicity to attract new fans that aren't familiar with showjumping. I became a fan because of Charlotte , not because of the top riders. Now I am hooked. It seems to be working because the Global Champions Tour is expanding to 13 events this year and the Pessoa's are expanding their indoor Masters events from 2 to 4 events. All during a long recession. Charlotte may even be a silent investor in these businesses.
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:26 PM
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. Charlotte may even be a silent investor in these businesses.
What an interesting idea. I don't really believe on the "Charlotte is promoting a sport she loves thing" because no one in her right mind makes herself look like a fool just to put a pretty face on a sport you love, and Charlotte may be spoiled but she is not stupid.

Now, the business thing... You may have hit a point. The GCT is a big business, it wants to follow the trail of the F-1 championship... Jan Tops must have investors and Charlotte may very reasonably be one of them.

On this light her following around the tour, the magazines, the interviews... all of it could have some sense...
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Old 01-13-2012, 02:01 PM
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Charlotte in Basel
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If she wants to promote the sport getting better results would be the place to start. A pretty face and interesting relations will only go so far.
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If she wants to promote the sport getting better results would be the place to start. A pretty face and interesting relations will only go so far.
She'd be able to promote as an owner and spectator as well- it's really her presence that gets more attention than her riding itself. Trepstep had an interesting point though- if she's staying at 1'20 maybe she's realizing that she needs work.
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Perhaps then she should turn her horses over to better riders and follow their progress from the stands and limit her riding to private time in the country.
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Riders that are "still learning" stay home and work hard with their coaches and attend schooling shows to gain experience. They don't follow the Global Champions Tour all over the world and give interviews insinuating they hope to ride in the Olympics. She should be staying close to her home stable and riding several hours a day if she wants to be a rider. And if she doesn't, she should stop the ridiculous promoting of her "career".
Not so in this country, especially in this economy. If the princess client can afford to buy and campaign nice horses at the top end of the market they will certainly not be told to stay home by their coach. Also there are no jumper divisions in schooling shows in America. They only begin at A2 level.
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Not so in this country, especially in this economy. If the princess client can afford to buy and campaign nice horses at the top end of the market they will certainly not be told to stay home by their coach.
Pretty foolish for coaches to act that way. They set their client up for failure which would not encourage them to continue with the coach or even perhaps to give up. At some point in time someone has to tell the client that money is no substitute for hard work and training, if not they will just continue to fail and to embarress themselves.
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Not so in this country, especially in this economy. If the princess client can afford to buy and campaign nice horses at the top end of the market they will certainly not be told to stay home by their coach. Also there are no jumper divisions in schooling shows in America. They only begin at A2 level.
Then it's a good thing Charlotte's home stable isn't in America

I know that there are no jumper divisions in schooling shows in America, but we discussed a few pages back that hunter-jumper isn't done as much in Europe- jumper is more common. So I assumed there had to be something that equates to schooling shows to practice show jumping for amateurs. If not schooling, at least small local shows.

And I don't think this client is making her coach look good. Plus, at this point, Charlotte shouldn't NEED to be told she's not riding well and she needs more practice and training- it should be readily apparent to her, even if Rozier isn't giving her good advice.
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I don't exactly understand what you mean by "schooling divisions" but if we are talking about easy amateur competitions with lower fences they are huge lot in france, you can find them everywhere and they are very very organized, for kids, young, adults... you can stay at this lower divisions your whole life and that's what 99% of riders do.
You can enter a lot of different kind of competions and you can obtain different kind of jumping licenses that give you access to different shows.

They are categories for small ponies, medium ponies and big ponies, with fences that go from low crossed poles to serious looking 1.20.

And the same thing with horses, you can take part in amateur competitions that go from 0.50 cm, where the horse practicaly walk over the fence to 1.35 or something like that and still keep your schooling license. The competitions go growing 5 cm, so teoretically if they are shows near your home you could be advancing 5 cm at a time.
They are also mid-level licenses that allow you to take part in amateur competitions and bigger CSO at the same time.

There is not hunter and that's a big shame, but in the other hand show-jumping schooling is really organized and allows riders of every level to progress to near the highest levels while scarcely moving from home.



WOW, that was quick!
Tiintero gave her only a 2 day trail. It's the 3rd day and he's already fed-up. They were eliminated at the 1.20 Seriously, Charlotte, sell the horse. He simply doesn't want to jump with you.

She also rode Carry in the 1.20. They got 4 point which is not bad per se, but is a low performance for a horse of that level.

I don't think she should jump higher than that for a while. And she should lend those talented horses to a better rider and look for an older, more experienced horse for herself, the kind of horse who is used to bad riders and doesn't care about wrong distances and pulls at the mouth.
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Here are some more pics of Charlotte in Basel yesterday, January 13:




** zimbio/PacificCoastNews.com gallery: Charlotte Casiraghi at the "CSI Basel 2012" **
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Old 01-14-2012, 09:25 AM
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I wonder, will Charlotte complete in the London Olymipcs?
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No. Without a doubt. She's just an amateur rider. And not a good one.

And judging by what we see in videos and her attitude with horses she most certainly will never compete in any competition near Olympic level.
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Old 01-14-2012, 11:09 AM
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Charlotte Casiraghi : Pétillante et rieuse, la ravissante jeune femme rayonne

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Has anyone seen any pictures of Charlotte with Thierry at Basel? I have only seen Charlotte with Edwina and Edwina walked the course with her. Maybe she has changed coaches. If that is the case she has to follow Edwina to get her training. Either way it's going to take her awhile to get rid of her bad habits.Another point about her being at these big events. Remember ,she has a contract with Gucci. Gucci doesn't pay her to ride in small towns. Charlotte is in the unique situation where she rides like an amateur ,but is paid better than alot of the pros to attend these events. If she gets top model rates, which I am sure she does, she could potentially be paid millions of Euros.
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more photos from today Basel event ...

STARTRAKS PHOTO

shame it is not in Full HD

its night fever

becareful with the drinks, (trafic police exist), And NO DRUGS !!!

Have fun !!!
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