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Old 04-04-2010, 11:10 AM
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Another blast from the past....... For people who remember in 2004 Charlotte rode a horse called Claire Chen, said to be the horse of Madame (Julien) Clerc. The singer Julien Clerc and (now EX-) wife Virginie Couperie (we saw her at last year's Gucci Masters) lived in the Fontainebleau area with their 2 kids. Apparently now she's married the actor Charles Berling, though in between there,somewhere, she had a fling with moneybags François Pinault, Salma Hayek's baby's daddy. Her website: Virginie Couperie : élevage, vente de chevaux et stages d'équitation à château bacon (be sure to check out the video of the newborn horse!)
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Old 04-05-2010, 01:51 AM
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Is it correct to call this a career for Charlotte? Does she actually make an income from it, have a contract? Seems more like a hobby to me..
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Oh, I'm sure that show-jumping costs her a LOT of money.
At her level the prices are ridicously small (maybe 100 euros) and she doesn't even clasify for them because her results are not very good. Also at her level sponsorship is unexistant (of course, she may get some sponsorship that other riders woul d never get because of her name, but not enogh)

If you take into account not only that she has to feed her horses every month and that she is paying a top trainer, but the very high entrance fee you have to pay to take part in the competitions she is entering and the transport of the horses (some times to remote places like Brazil) .
And she buys horses! I kind of remember that GI JOE doesn't belong to her and she's just her rider, and I don't know about Troy, but she certainly owns Tintero and that's not a cheap horse.

No way she is making money out of showjumping. She must be expending an awful lot of money on it.

Also, having a look at her last pics with Troy... No matter how much Rozier keeps repeting that she is very talented it is obvious that she is not. Rozier has to say it because she is her most popular client and is getting a lot of money (where would he find another amateur client ready to take him to all the Global Championship towns?) and popularity from her but the girl is certainly not a talented horsewoman.
Her results, with the horses she owns are very poor, and in videos and pics you can easily see how much she lacks. Her balance does not seem great which is no wonder since her legs are often too forward. And it really seems that she has a hard hand (no wonder, the way she holds the rains!) because too often her horses look unconfortable at the mouth and appear fighting her hand in pictures.
My guess is that she will keep on riding this often for a couple of years and then she will get bored and quit. But of course I could be wrong.
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Old 04-11-2010, 10:11 PM
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Yes, it's definitely more hobby than career. I doubt anyone could argue that. I admit "career" was a bad choice of word for the thread title.

Trep,you're right about Tintero. She bought him. She owns Troy too. But yes, GI Joe's owner is Jan Tops. You're bang on about the expenses. All of what you say is so true. As for sponsors, the only one I know about that she has now is Barclays. I guess they like it when she's photographed wearing their logo, like at the Gucci Masters. You bring up an interesting point about her stables. Where do you suppose her horses are kept? Do you suppose GI Joe is stabled at Stal Tops?
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Old 04-12-2010, 11:55 AM
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Probably depens on where her trainer has stabled his horses. I assume she isn't personally trained by Jan aswell. He's got other stuff to do.
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Old 04-12-2010, 05:47 PM
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No, I never thought Jan was her personal trainer. So you think the horses, at least Tintero and Troy are at Espace Rozier?
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Old 04-13-2010, 01:36 PM
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If that's where her trainer is, it's probably where her's are too. It's just outside of Paris, right?
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Old 04-13-2010, 09:57 PM
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Yes it's in Bois le Roi probably like 50-55 km from Paris.
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Old 04-15-2010, 12:59 AM
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Now, she only needs to get rid of the hideous helmet (althought to be fair, this one is much much better than the previous one with the chin piece and the horrid transparent straps!)
Trepstrep, do you think the 2 helmets are possibly the same helmet, but that she simply exchanged the straps? Look here: Clear strap, leather strap

I don't like the clear strap either. I don't like the velvet helmets too much, but I do like the bow on the back, and I can understand possibly why Charlotte likes this style. However, I think the helmet Athina wears looks better.
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Old 04-15-2010, 11:10 AM
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The helmets are outdated. I pointed it out before. They're not adviced to wear here anymore.
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Old 04-16-2010, 12:19 PM
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Now that you point it out, yes, you're probably right, Casiraghitrio. It looks like the same helmet with different straps.
I don't like velvet helmets either, but Charlotte seems to think they are more elegant, for some reason. I can understand that even if I don't share her taste, but she could at least use some black thiner straps. She's wearing a nice fit jacket, nice elegant saddlepad and then you look at her head and it's

About Athina, I have no option but to like both helmet and gloves since I own the exact same model of both things!
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Old 04-16-2010, 05:05 PM
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http://www.libella.nl/ruitersport/images/3020093.gif
I love these btw. I'm a sucker for brown. It's elegant and classy.
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Old 04-17-2010, 07:29 PM
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I love brown for everything. I'd wear the brown one if I was courageous enough like you guys to actually ride a horse, and even do jumping. I like to be around horses and work with them,but I never ride since a rather scary incident when I was ten. When I was that age and doing lessons, I wore the black velvet helmet.

I think the kind of helmet Athina & Doda prefer is the most popular, or so it seems, for the grand prix riders. But it is noteworthy that Edwina Alexander likes the velvet helmets.
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Old 04-18-2010, 04:40 PM
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The 'skunk stripe' helmet is very popular at the moment. But it does not fit everyone's head. I have a very long oval head shape and cant wear it at all...major headaches ensue. That helmet is much more suited to those with a round head shape.
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Old 04-18-2010, 05:35 PM
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Does Charlotte get chosen to compete in these events? Or can anyone enter them?
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Old 04-18-2010, 08:20 PM
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No, it's her personal bill. Assuming travel by horsevan, rather than by plane...$2,500US per horse per week while competing. This, of course, does not include the board at home which continues even while one is away competing, or vet/shoeing/dental/training bills at home. Nor the actual purchase price per horse. Nor the carrying of said horse for many years in retirement.
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^Yeah, doesn't each rider pay a fee to enter an event? What does it mean, for instance, when the Global Champions Tour holds their "special invitational" competitions? Does that mean the judges or organizers personally invited the participants? Last year, I noticed that Athina & Charlotte were in a lot of the "special invitational" ones, and those were the competitions for the more modest prizes. Like the grand prix was never a "special invitational," as I recall.
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I was including entries in that figure. As well as shipping, stabling, day care, night check, training, cost of the trainer's hotel room, etc. For invitational classes, one would generally have to meet a certain point of money won in that calendar year. Many shows with that type of class, such as the Budweiser American Invitational (the richest prize money in the USA), last year's winner would recieve a 'bye' which means an invitation on the strength of last year's win, without having to otherwise qualify. Even if a Grand Prix is not an invitational, the order of competition is usually determined by the Welcome Cup earlier in the week. The Sunday Prix would be run in the reverse order of Wednesday's finish. It is an advantage to go last, as you know what you have to beat in terms of rails down and speed. It is very difficult to be the pathfinder/go first and win.
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Oh, I'm sure that show-jumping costs her a LOT of money.
At her level the prices are ridicously small (maybe 100 euros) and she doesn't even clasify for them because her results are not very good. Also at her level sponsorship is unexistant (of course, she may get some sponsorship that other riders woul d never get because of her name, but not enogh)

If you take into account not only that she has to feed her horses every month and that she is paying a top trainer, but the very high entrance fee you have to pay to take part in the competitions she is entering and the transport of the horses (some times to remote places like Brazil) .
And she buys horses! I kind of remember that GI JOE doesn't belong to her and she's just her rider, and I don't know about Troy, but she certainly owns Tintero and that's not a cheap horse.

No way she is making money out of showjumping. She must be expending an awful lot of money on it.

Also, having a look at her last pics with Troy... No matter how much Rozier keeps repeting that she is very talented it is obvious that she is not. Rozier has to say it because she is her most popular client and is getting a lot of money (where would he find another amateur client ready to take him to all the Global Championship towns?) and popularity from her but the girl is certainly not a talented horsewoman.
Her results, with the horses she owns are very poor, and in videos and pics you can easily see how much she lacks. Her balance does not seem great which is no wonder since her legs are often too forward. And it really seems that she has a hard hand (no wonder, the way she holds the rains!) because too often her horses look unconfortable at the mouth and appear fighting her hand in pictures.
My guess is that she will keep on riding this often for a couple of years and then she will get bored and quit. But of course I could be wrong.
I totally agree with you. Obviously jumping it's just a hobby to her, for a while.

Anybody knows if this video i'ts from 2008 or 2009? I don't see reference to dates on it's description, and i don't speak french, so i don't know if they talk about it on the video

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That was her first interview last year, she talks about her passion for horseriding, and that she practices some others sports too.
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