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Old 01-14-2008, 07:45 AM
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On another topic, an article in Paris Match (with Charlene Wittstock on its cover) claims that Charlotte intends to pursue a Master's and then a Doctorate degree.
Well, this june Charlotte should be getting her "maîtrise" at the Sorbonne. Is that what the article was talking about? I so, it is not really a master but just the regular 4 years studies degree that in france are called maîtrise. And about the doctorate I certainly can picture her going for it. It would had been nice if she had entered into ENA and started a political career en France, though...
i could picture her as a "ministre de la culture" in 20-30 years from now!
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That is very interesting information and I'm glad to hear that she will continue to pursue her studies. Is this master like a specialization on something, or more like a master's degree? Most master's degrees nowadays require 2 or more years of working experience from what I know.

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Old 01-14-2008, 11:18 AM
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Well, this june Charlotte should be getting her "maîtrise" at the Sorbonne. Is that what the article was talking about? It is not really a master but just the regular 4 years studies degree that in france is called maîtrise, but about the doctorate I certainly can picture her going for it. It would had been nice if he had entered into ENA and started a political career en France, though...
i could picture her as a "ministre de la culture" in 20-30 years from now!
do you think she's studying this year? I don't know how she would do that, living in london...
my guess is she took a year off and will go back to uni next year

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That is very interesting information and I'm glad to hear that she will continue to pursue her studies. Is this master like a specialization on something, or more like a master's degree? Most master's degrees nowadays require 2 or more years of working experience from what I know.
hm yes a master is a specialization in the sense that you choose a subject you work on for 2 years, so you're pretty much specialized in that subject, but you will still have classes about other subjects
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Old 01-14-2008, 12:15 PM
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Has she even been in school...we know that she has practically taken the year off and been living in London. There really hasn't been much info about her still being in school in Paris..it's confusing...
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^ No, I think last year, in September, 2007 she began the internship in London, a work experience that could be required for her degree, and does not also attend classes towards her degree. What Tutu is saying is that when she completes the internship requirement, maybe by June, she might then have the maîtresse degree. Maybe this degree requires this work experience, so it's not really like time off at all. Just speculating, as always, however.
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Old 01-14-2008, 01:21 PM
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do you think she's studying this year? I don't know how she would do that, living in london...
my guess is she took a year off and will go back to uni next year
Well, we really don't know whether she is living in London or not. We've seen her a lot in London lately, but keep in mind that since the tunnel london and paris are really close. Charlotte could be living betwen both towns easily. Courses at the university do not take much more than a few hours a week (and if you're lucky you can even squeeze them and have one more free day during the week) and you are not watched by anyone so you can easily miss a few lessons without any problem. If you think that lessons don't start until october, are over in may (even if you still have to write papers and take exams until june) and that you have a couple of free weeks three times a year, well, it leaves you a lot of free time to be in london :-)
My point is that we don't really know what Charlotte is doing, but since she is quite talented and has a brilliant mind she could easily have good grades at uni and spend half her time in london easily.
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Old 01-14-2008, 01:28 PM
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^ No, I think last year, in September, 2007 she began the internship in London, a work experience that could be required for her degree, and does not also attend classes towards her degree. What Tutu is saying is that when she completes the internship requirement, maybe by June, she might then have the maîtresse degree. Maybe this degree requires this work experience, so it's not really like time off at all. Just speculating, as always, however.
My opinion about what she's being doing this year is just speculation too, but definitely no work experience is necessary to get a maîtrise at Paris -IV (Sorbonne) and I know what i'm talking about since i've been a "Lettres Modernes" student there.
Also, you can't start a doctorate of any kind if you don't get your maîtrise first. That's for certain too.
Maybe her internship does not mean that she is going to the office every day. Probably she is just a free-lance writer who helps with fashion/social life articles and such?
Well, we really don't know. The only certain things are that she wrote that article about shoes and that in order to pursue higher studies in France you need to complete 4 years of university studies (maîtrise). So, maybe she is living between both countries and finishing her university studies, maybe she is not?
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:30 PM
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^ No, I think last year, in September, 2007 she began the internship in London, a work experience that could be required for her degree, and does not also attend classes towards her degree. What Tutu is saying is that when she completes the internship requirement, maybe by June, she might then have the maîtresse degree. Maybe this degree requires this work experience, so it's not really like time off at all. Just speculating, as always, however.
I think like tutu here. I don't think there is any work experience required, I am myself at uni in france right now (doing a maîtrise, master next year) and there is no such thing required. the studies are actually very theoretic

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Well, we really don't know whether she is living in London or not. We've seen her a lot in London lately, but keep in mind that since the tunnel london and paris are really close. Charlotte could be living betwen both towns easily. Courses at the university do not take much more than a few hours a week (and if you're lucky you can even squeeze them and have one more free day during the week) and you are not watched by anyone so you can easily miss a few lessons without any problem. If you think that lessons don't start until october, are over in may (even if you still have to write papers and take exams until june) and that you have a couple of free weeks three times a year, well, it leaves you a lot of free time to be in london :-)
My point is that we don't really know what Charlotte is doing, but since she is quite talented and has a brilliant mind she could easily have good grades at uni and spend half her time in london easily.
you're right I forgot we don't know for sure whether she lives in lonon or not. I am also in 4th year at uni in france right now and I can tell that you really have a lot of time to do other stuff than ust study. but still writing for a newspaper, spending a lot of time with your boyfriend in london, going to many parties, going on holiday in January... it seems too much to me!
I know we can't tell for sure what she's doing, but I tend more towards the idea that she might have taken a break from uni.
another thing that makes me think like that is, that if I'm not mistaken she should have had some exams at the sorbonne during the time she was in Brazil. at least I know some people who are/were at the sorbonne and they always had exams during that period. but again it proves nothing
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Old 01-15-2008, 09:52 AM
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^ yeah, we can't know for sure, but I agree with you both that it's more likely she is taking time during this school year. I think it's possible she is a very part-time intern, a contributing correspondent maybe because I believe Carl has been following 'SINDY' closely and we haven't had word of another piece by Charlotte. I might be able to get it still. I found a newstand at Santa Monica and Laurel and intend to check there, maybe today, as I'm going that way today.
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Old 01-15-2008, 10:05 AM
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I like the idea of "Dr. Charlotte Casiraghi" She may and may not get her princess title (I think it will probably depend on whether her mother will succeed to the throne), then it will be longer for us to write her name.. "Princess Dr."

However my dream is to see her become an editor of... fashion magazine, maybe. Then, we will all have "The Beauty Wears Chanel" in-the-making..
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Old 01-17-2008, 04:53 PM
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hmmm... just want to say something about the article and the casiraghi's student life... really dont want to defend lazyness or anything but please keep in mind that we dont get pictures of them at uni/in the office, but only going out (in the sense of going outside) pictures. and when you leave your home, you dont do any glorious things as a student but just go for a coffe or food/partying/shopping/on vacations. specially when it comes to charlotte... we (at least I) havent seen one single pic of her leaving a london club at 4 am as we regularily get them from william and kate. Moreover many people have a more or less wild period during their student time or even earlier, it just should stop at some point. and unlike "us" who have to drink cheap alcohol from the petrol filling station (please dont take this literally) and go for a camping weekend, they spend their nights in posh clubs in the world's most beautiful places... thats just their price class.
hope you got my point without feeling offended as a student, and are a bit lenient towards them
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....and unlike "us" who have to drink cheap alcohol from the petrol filling station (please dont take this literally) and go for a camping weekend,....
Oh dear! I would be worried if that was a literal reference to my own life. At here in the US, Petrol filling stations only have beer and I hate beer. But I do go for Trader Joe's wines, and that's very ....... er....... "reasonably priced" haha.

Actually TJ's has a wide range of prices, from $30-80 wines and down the line to the under-$10 bottles.

Whew, the Casiraghis would say that was sooo cheap, though! They have their collector vintage wines, in the cellar of Mama's Manoir.

Good points, though, Mrs. S. Of all the so-called knowledge we have of this family, it's true that there is so much more we do not know and probably never will know.
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hmmm... just want to say something about the article and the casiraghi's student life... really dont want to defend lazyness or anything but please keep in mind that we dont get pictures of them at uni/in the office, but only going out (in the sense of going outside) pictures. and when you leave your home, you dont do any glorious things as a student but just go for a coffe or food/partying/shopping/on vacations. specially when it comes to charlotte... we (at least I) havent seen one single pic of her leaving a london club at 4 am as we regularily get them from william and kate. Moreover many people have a more or less wild period during their student time or even earlier, it just should stop at some point. and unlike "us" who have to drink cheap alcohol from the petrol filling station (please dont take this literally) and go for a camping weekend, they spend their nights in posh clubs in the world's most beautiful places... thats just their price class.
hope you got my point without feeling offended as a student, and are a bit lenient towards them
I totally agree with you. We know for certain that Charlotte is a brilliant student. Pierre seems to be good too, since he is studying at Bocconi. Only Andrea is kind of a mistery...
And well, yes, the paps catch the casiraghis doing a wild thing once in a while, or going to parties or even drunk. And so??? Are they any different to any other student their age???
To me the fact that someone who could have such an easy life as Charlotte is getting high grades and writing thoughful articles in the press does not speak of laziness.
Also, the fact that a guy as rich, famous and handsome as Andrea has been going out with the same girlfriend since I don't know how many years instead of dating models or actresses or changing girlfriend everyweek does not speak of frivolity (even more so, since tatiana is far from being a stunning beauty).
Frankly, I think that most journalists are not fair with the casiraghis. To me, they are some important hints that make me think that caroline did a good job with them and they are not the spoiled brats most people would be in their situation.
They drink alcohol and go out late at night? Thank God! They are young normal people!
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^^ Do you think Andrea currently pursuing for advance degree or something since he has graduated (bachelor degree) last year?

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I like natural in a girl, but at some point ,with charlotte, it is starting to look quite fake, like an artificial pose.
Yeah, maybe it just like what people said to Prince Harry "You're not normal, so stop trying to be normal". She is far too classy to be a simple person. Unfortunate of her..
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I agree with the last opinions, don´t forget thay are on holidays now, and they do on vacation what everyone does, but as they are rich and famous , some people immediately speak of "spoiled children".
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^ I don't think being spoiled is bad in their case! because how could they not be... but they're not brats... too me those 2 are different things!
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^^ Do you think Andrea currently pursuing for advance degree or something since he has graduated (bachelor degree) last year?


Yeah, maybe it just like what people said to Prince Harry "You're not normal, so stop trying to be normal". She is far too classy to be a simple person. Unfortunate of her..
Why did it take Andrea so long to graduate?

Anyway I thought he was at The New School for public policy, no? I think that's a graduate school, it's weird because paps in NY don't photo him and Tati...when the Olsens were schooled at NYU they were always getting a candid shot. Although the situations are different, I did think we would get occasional sightings of those 2...
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Well, the Olsens are on a different social spectrum here than Andrea and Tatiana. Just about everyone knows who the Olsen Twins are, and on the flip side there aren't many Americans who know about (or care about) Andrea.

But if William were in NYC, you can expect a storm of paparazzi 24/7. That's probably why Andrea wanted to go to school in the U.S. in the first place. He can breathe a little easier.
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Yeah I guess that's true cause Pierre and Char would get photo-d frequently at their university's in Europe. But if they chose the states, probably not so much...
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I think oxygen and zembla are absolutely right about Andrea in the US. He just blends into the crowds of NYC, whether at New School or NYU. Paris Match says the former, but perhaps it is just an assumption based on that Tatiana is at New School.

Anyway, I am sure Pierre must have the same experience as Andrea in the US at some school. I am not, however, 100% certain that Charlotte would not attract attention here. We might see a cover story on People magazine about the princess "coming to America" or some such nonsense. I admit, because it's fact, that Charlotte does not claim anywhere near the attention of Prince William & Prince Harry. Nevertheless, she does command something much more than her brothers, even here. US fashion editors soak up that Grace's granddaughter stuff, don't they?
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