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Old 08-23-2009, 04:34 AM
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i loved Beatrice Borromeo interview in above-magazine - beauty will save the world starting page 55, she seems really smart
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Old 08-23-2009, 08:15 AM
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I take my hat off to her, a very good interview, including a question about the money Roberto Saviano is making. The photos are also stunning.
Let's hope she is not targeted by anyone from the three mafias.

Many thanks to Rima for getting us the link to Above Magazine, something I will read regularly from now on.

One of the sentences that made me shiver: "All English computer waste is handled by the Camorra and sent on to Africa...."
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Old 08-23-2009, 04:17 PM
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Old 08-23-2009, 05:42 PM
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They appear to be more acquaintences than social friends - certainly pleasant to each other whenever they run into each other; I think the press would love for them to be enemies, but I just don't see it.
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Old 08-24-2009, 08:24 PM
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i dont get all hyped about beatric but after seeing more of interviews shes realy grows on me more and more . all i hear in u.s. about italy is glamours and history/culture nothing like this whole different realitys. excelent interview, thanks for posting.
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Old 08-25-2009, 10:13 AM
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Let's hope she is not targeted by anyone from the three mafias.
LOL! Why should the mafias target her? A young Miss Know-it-all, who is exceptionally contradictory: she declares herself to be a communist, then she's happily shacking up with one of the world's richest young man, the son of a Hereditary Princess. She play the moralist about the Italian Prime Minister when she's born out of the wedlock (which prevents her from being a "Countess"), and her father divided himself between his wife and Beatrice's mother: see post. Her granmother cheated her husband with a painter for 20 years. Her husband filed for divorced when their affair became common knowledge...
Besides Beatrice lived with a man nearly 20 years her senior for some years. I can't recall if she still was of age back then. I hope so!
Talk about morality!

In Italy nobody cares about her, so she's gone blabbing to the foreign press.
If she's that smart and a communist that cares for Africa, why doesn't she accompany Caroline in her charity travels? Or goes to work with an organization in order to help the African children, instead of cruising the Mediterranean on Caroline's yacht? If I'm correct in a interview she stated that Monte Carlo sucks. Why is she still hanging around the Grimaldis?
She'a sly one. She loves being in the limelight. Do you know what she is dubbed by the Italian media, including her left wing friends? Beatroce = Beatrocious.
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Old 08-25-2009, 10:36 AM
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LOL! Why should the mafias target her? A young Miss Know-it-all, who is exceptionally contradictory: she declares herself to be a communist, then she's happily shacking up with one of the world's richest young man, the son of a Hereditary Princess. She play the moralist about the Italian Prime Minister when she's born out of the wedlock (which prevents her from being a "Countess"), and her father divided himself between his wife and Beatrice's mother: see post. Her granmother cheated her husband with a painter for 20 years. Her husband filed for divorced when their affair became common knowledge...
Besides Beatrice lived with a man nearly 20 years her senior for some years. I can't recall if she still was of age back then. I hope so!
Talk about morality!

In Italy nobody cares about her, so she's gone blabbing to the foreign press.
If she's that smart and a communist that cares for Africa, why doesn't she accompany Caroline in her charity travels? Or goes to work with an organization in order to help the African children, instead of cruising the Mediterranean on Caroline's yacht? If I'm correct in a interview she stated that Monte Carlo sucks. Why is she still hanging around the Grimaldis?
She'a sly one. She loves being in the limelight. Do you know what she is dubbed by the Italian media, including her left wing friends? Beatroce = Beatrocious.
You read my mind Tosca ,I'm totally agree.
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Old 08-25-2009, 11:50 AM
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Interesting outlook on Beatrice...I've noticed that those from Italy aren't as enthusiastic about her as those of us who aren't. Admittedly she's pretty, she and Pierre are a beautiful couple, both of them from well-known, aristocratic, well-connected families so it seems like a dream match. Maybe she'll find herself, eventually, and start practicing what she preaches. She's still young. That might sound like a convenient excuse but I go to a university wherein students can't seem to stop protesting about all sorts of issues like consumerism, consider themselves communists but then rush to the nearest Starbucks after a grueling day of street protests, so maybe that's why I'm tolerant. LOL.
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Old 08-25-2009, 02:13 PM
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LOL! Why should the mafias target her? A young Miss Know-it-all, who is exceptionally contradictory: she declares herself to be a communist, then she's happily shacking up with one of the world's richest young man, the son of a Hereditary Princess. She play the moralist about the Italian Prime Minister when she's born out of the wedlock (which prevents her from being a "Countess"), and her father divided himself between his wife and Beatrice's mother: see post. Her granmother cheated her husband with a painter for 20 years. Her husband filed for divorced when their affair became common knowledge...
Besides Beatrice lived with a man nearly 20 years her senior for some years. I can't recall if she still was of age back then. I hope so!
Talk about morality!

In Italy nobody cares about her, so she's gone blabbing to the foreign press.
If she's that smart and a communist that cares for Africa, why doesn't she accompany Caroline in her charity travels? Or goes to work with an organization in order to help the African children, instead of cruising the Mediterranean on Caroline's yacht? If I'm correct in a interview she stated that Monte Carlo sucks. Why is she still hanging around the Grimaldis?
She'a sly one. She loves being in the limelight. Do you know what she is dubbed by the Italian media, including her left wing friends? Beatroce = Beatrocious.
I can't argue with any of your points EXCEPT the morality point, because the objections you cite involve other people who are not Beatrice. Beatrice cannot help that her parents weren't married when she was born. This fact, therefore, says nothing about her morality. Then you cite something about her grandmother, again, not about Beatrice. Your objections involve her parents and grandmother, but how can their actions speak about Beatrice?

I'm not arguing with you, however. Even if she is a person with some socialist or leftist theories, she probably shouldn't go around calling herself an outright communist. Perhaps she would be wiser to say that she has a few leftist points of view. Some of my own political beliefs are leftist, even socialist, but I am not a Socialist or communist by definition. This seems to be the case with Beatrice, but I don't know.
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Old 08-25-2009, 02:25 PM
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In 2009 can anybody try a young girl for her political opinions ? It's a shame, Pierre and Beatrice are surrounded by envy.
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Old 08-25-2009, 02:46 PM
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In 2009 can anybody try a young girl for her political opinions ? It's a shame, Pierre and Beatrice are surrounded by envy.
I don't think that they are surrounded by envy,she's very beautiful but I don't like her,that's it,is just my opinion.But together they are a very beautiful couple.
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Old 08-25-2009, 04:55 PM
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While I am sure some people envy their beauty and money, and I agree that Beatrice shouldn't be judged by parents and/or grandmother the issue for some is the hypocrisy that they see.

As Tosca mentioned...its hard for someone to believe in someone's sincerity about helping the people of Africa if it appears that you do nothing to help the people of Africa. Now if you are donating money or doing projects that no one sees...that's totally different. Now I would be curious to see why she said Monte Carlo sucked...is the glamour...the tourists...the abundance of money.....there could be a variety of reasons....but it does seem weird that you are hanging with the very people who are the embodiment of Monte Carlo.

But there are tons of people like that (as Moby pointed out) who preach global environment, helping third world countries, etc who go home to their nice chateaus, eating caviar and spending thousands on a dress.
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Old 08-25-2009, 05:00 PM
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She might have leftist leanings but also be just so blindly "in love" or infatuated with Pierre, and he has his own views and lifestyle, and they are having fun together and spending their parents' money, but are still entitled to their views. We can't fault a couple for being "in love." She can express her leftist views and still enjoy a luxurious life. There are many very Left thinkers who live luxuriously. Think of all the liberal-minded celebrities, and Princess Caroline herself.
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Old 08-25-2009, 05:58 PM
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Did I miss an interview? Where did she declare herself a communist? And what's so bad about that?
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Old 08-25-2009, 06:10 PM
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^I was wondering the same thing. It makes a huge difference. Did she say outright, "I am a Communist," and or does she merely claim political opinions that are of a Leftist/socialist/Marxist nature? Because those are very different things. It's one thing to be a socialist by definition, and another to be a Leftist or liberal thinker.
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Old 08-25-2009, 06:35 PM
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Just for the record, there are no real "by the book" communists in Italy...those that call themselves communists can be classified as an old school labour party, a little to the left of social democracy. And Beatrice didn't even vote for them but for a center-centerleft party (as she declared in several interviews).
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Old 08-25-2009, 07:52 PM
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LOL! Why should the mafias target her? A young Miss Know-it-all, who is exceptionally contradictory: she declares herself to be a communist, then she's happily shacking up with one of the world's richest young man, the son of a Hereditary Princess. She play the moralist about the Italian Prime Minister when she's born out of the wedlock (which prevents her from being a "Countess"), and her father divided himself between his wife and Beatrice's mother: see post. Her granmother cheated her husband with a painter for 20 years. Her husband filed for divorced when their affair became common knowledge...
Besides Beatrice lived with a man nearly 20 years her senior for some years. I can't recall if she still was of age back then. I hope so!
Talk about morality!

In Italy nobody cares about her, so she's gone blabbing to the foreign press.
If she's that smart and a communist that cares for Africa, why doesn't she accompany Caroline in her charity travels? Or goes to work with an organization in order to help the African children, instead of cruising the Mediterranean on Caroline's yacht? If I'm correct in a interview she stated that Monte Carlo sucks. Why is she still hanging around the Grimaldis?
She'a sly one. She loves being in the limelight. Do you know what she is dubbed by the Italian media, including her left wing friends? Beatroce = Beatrocious.

Oh dear. So there I was going into raptures about this young woman and now I read that she has declared herself a BOLSHIE??! Does she even fully comprehend what that means??

Because I have done some research on her illustrious and ancient family..and she would need to renounce pretty much her entire heritage to be true to her Communist beliefs...there are two CARDINALS and a beautiful island palace for heavens sake! And what about all those luxury holidays, fine clothes, the rich aristo boyfriend?

Oy. Many of us say foolish things when we are young.....

Thanks Tosca, for the enlightening info. You are quite correct, I only read about Signorina Borromeo in the French press(which seems besotted with her)because I cannot read Italian.

Note to Tatiana Santo Domingo...PLEASE choose a different shade of lipstick! She is actually a lovely girl but that garish slash of red across her mouth is just not flattering!
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An interesting article, well spotted - thanks!
It's made me see Alex Dellal in a different light......

Same here...Lord knows I have not been a big fan of his but this article has caused me to see him in a new and better light.

I am slooooowly, very slowly, warming up to him as a worthy consort to our lovely Charlotte!

I think he looks much better with longer hair, it takes some of the attention away from his face in general and his nose in particular.

But he sounds very intelligent, and reasonably down to Earth.
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Old 08-26-2009, 07:53 AM
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Just for the record, there are no real "by the book" communists in Italy...those that call themselves communists can be classified as an old school labour party, a little to the left of social democracy. And Beatrice didn't even vote for them but for a center-centerleft party (as she declared in several interviews).
Thanks for explaining that!
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